Ts_Stormrage Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 The Durgeshuun Xbow (from here-on refered to as Bone Bow) is not all that powerfull in itself, but it has an amazing special attack (if used right). So lets compare the most widely used Magic Short Bow (MSB), the Crystal Bow, and Kharil's Xbow each with the new Bone Bow... Weapon: Magic Shortbow Cost: 1500gp tops, can eb for free witht he right levels. Ammo Cost: Depends greatly on what ammo you use. Can be made for free witht he right levels. Can be poisoned. Effectiveness: Has a nice special attack which quickly strikes your target twice. Overall its a good weapon, but no more then that. Weapon: Kharil's Crossbow Cost: 400k + 100k to repair once in a while Ammo Cost: cheap, but somewhat difficult to aquire large ammounts Effectiveness: Hits more often and does way more damage then the MSB, but has no special attack to increase its effectiveness. Weapon: Crystal Bow Cost: 900k + decreasing recharge costs Ammo Cost: no ammo used. Effectiveness: Varying, as it degrades (altho with 2 bows this can be overcome). It starts out as the most accurate range weapon, but can be reduced to just under that of a MSB (without the spec). Weapon: Dorgeshuun Crossbow Cost: 2000gp Ammo Cost: Low, it uses Bone and regular bolts. Can be poisoned. Hard to find sufficient ammounts. Effectiveness: Not as good as the other bows, but when you hit with the sopec the way you're supposed to, you can lower your tagret's defense by 51! Which theoretically puts your Bone Bow's range attack bonus at +93. Add to that that you can still use a shield (or zammy book for another +8 attack bonus, putting it at +101!!!), and the fact that it does not degrade or require repair or recharging. All in all, the Bone Bow can POTENTIALLY be the best range weapon out there, but it requires true skill on getting that first hit in. If you can find some bolts, and wish to take the time to attach some opals to it. Perhaps even poison them. A very good tactic would be to use what this bow is used for. And that is to sneak up to someone in the wilderness from behind, spec it once with this Bone Bow with some poisoned dart (barb, opal, pearl), while wearing a zammy book, and then switch to your bow of preference. The main problem is the Bolts. I long ago suggested that one would be able to smith your own bolts (at roughly Smithing lvl 20, getting 5 bolts for 1 bar). Something that SHOULD be available in F2P too... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdean Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 i wonder if you can fletch your own bone bolts - i may try fletching bones from frogs (as the goblins say that's what they make their stuff from) Back by popular demand!And I guess I just wanted to tell you, as the light starts to fade, that you aree the reason, that I am not afraid, and I guess I just wanted to mention, as the heavens will fall, that we will be together soon if we will be anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted June 23, 2006 Author Share Posted June 23, 2006 i wonder if you can fletch your own bone bolts - i may try fletching bones from frogs (as the goblins say that's what they make their stuff from) no you cant... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdean Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 curses... ah well, most poeple will be using the X-bow for one or two hits, no1 is going to use it for a full fight, so not many bolts needed i guess Back by popular demand!And I guess I just wanted to tell you, as the light starts to fade, that you aree the reason, that I am not afraid, and I guess I just wanted to mention, as the heavens will fall, that we will be together soon if we will be anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorker42 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Yeah but I think it's a decent bow. I get +125 range bonus with black d hide, zammy book, glory and archer helm. That alone is good enough to hit through most armor.. :-k fan of her's.You know what I hate? People putting an apostrophe on a personal pronoun. STOP IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pure_fett Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 look at the range skill where it lists all the bows, it has bone bow listed as useing up to IRON BOLTS hmmm me thinks soon we will be able to smith them or they are just going to release all the metal bolts like they did with arrows, if they do this, the bone bow still isnt that great seeing as it can only use iron i don't play psykick anymore... i play 2ed: "pure fett" 26081 to get 99 herblore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umega Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I had a go using the bone bow on Fire Giants, but it was too slow for my liking... :notalk: No longer playing Runescape, I caught the WoW bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojann2 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 How slow is the Bow? Looks like only pk'ers and some random and lucky Cw'ers, Will Like it... Knowledge Talks| | Wisdom Listens~~Heroes Get Remembered, But Legends Never Die~~Xbox Live & Playstation Network Name: Trojann2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspbeetle Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 actually, will the effect of the special attack continue on after switching weapon? i am thinking of using it with a crystal bow, bolts cost 18 each :evil: Examine ChenGMT (level: 138) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_50_2 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 You can use any bolts. And range guide says up to Iron Bolts If anyone remembers me... PM ME. having nostaligia issues D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 How slow is the Bow? Looks like only pk'ers and some random and lucky Cw'ers, Will Like it... Actually in my opinion it's not that slow at all, might just be me though. look at the range skill where it lists all the bows, it has bone bow listed as useing up to IRON BOLTS I believe it says iron because iron bolts are nearly the same as iron arrows. They hit harder but are a slightly bit less inaccurate, I know for sure I've read that somewhere. Must say I've taken a liking to the new bow, it goes great with a sara book and my clothes which i wear when I'm not in a battle. Also because I luckily was stocking up on bolts before getting ready to use them when i was bored with my normal bow, now I'm useing it all the time with the new bow and have already earned a range level :P . The only huge minus to the bow is that nearly everyone asks what it is. #-o With the best tip on the dorgeshuun bow I'm sure it would be more then a decent weapon. ~Philip A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspbeetle Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 You can use any bolts. And range guide says up to Iron Bolts it is normal bolts that cost 18, bone one cost 20 :evil: :evil: :evil: Examine ChenGMT (level: 138) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdguy0101 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I stocked up on bolts before this came out. I have like 500 normal, 50 opal, 20 pearl, and 8 poisoned Seems like a good weapon for low level ranges like me too. (Quit: tallest please come to the death altar, give me 1,337,000,000 gp, a golden tinderbox, and a spade, also steal one of zidanes phats and give it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convene_inc Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Can't you switch bows after lowering the opponent's defense? Just a thought. Convene Inc's POH DesignerAIZone - games, comics, and animations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted June 23, 2006 Author Share Posted June 23, 2006 Can't you switch bows after lowering the opponent's defense? Just a thought. Yes you can... Ive included that in the analysis I made as welL... And yes, the lowered defense level stays down, as it is your actual STAT that is lowered... the effect much resembles that of the Claws of Guthix spell Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelitoux Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 i wish we could smith/fletch regular bones, and in the future the better the bones the more damage bolts do, like: Dor bolts (normal ones) m bolts (monkeY) b bolts (big) d bolts (dragon) dag (dagganoth) Which FF Character Are You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death9991 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 glad i had a had about 1.5k opal bolts for along time in my bank its a good bow for duelers lower defense and bam! easy wins alot of the time []*ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâôÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâè) ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâø.ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâôÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâø.ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷*ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâôÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâè) ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâø.ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷*ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâè) (ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâø.ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâô (ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâø.ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷*______Now Look Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killawolf45 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 but how to you use it? it has to hit someone in the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrm22 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 i think its a nice and good bow... but only if you are using bronze arrows normaly... cuz bolts are +/- the same price... bolts = 18 ea... bronze arrows 20 each... and you can get realy high range bonus with it... full blk + ranger helm + glory + the cros bow + zamy book like you sad... it would be verry kewl... and the barbs etc arnt rlly needed... lets sell me bolt collection \ ive about 25k... anyone intressed? :D ^^ click my sig for my lesser ranging guide ^^jwrm22: 4816th > 99 cooking 100% f2p !1172 total! + 140mil in items.i dont play anymore... i think rs is ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 actually barbed bolts from the ranged guild will hit 19's with this bow around 93 ranged potted. thats not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 i tried using special at back of the opponent, no mass defense decrease :cry: The Complete MTA Handbook | Runecrafting Pouch Analysis | Mobilizing Armies Locator Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_bow80 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Oh man, i just droped like 2k bolts like a few days ago cus i needed bank space! :wall: :wall: But the only way it would be one of the best is because of its spec. 99 Pics - Range, Defence, HP, Attack, Magic, Strength, Cooking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbd Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Wow, get a full crystal bow/ kharil xbow, dorsheguun xbow, spec with dorsh, and theyve got a hella p00nin coming their way :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ortiz9471 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Wow, get a full crystal bow/ kharil xbow, dorsheguun xbow, spec with dorsh, and theyve got a hella p00nin coming their way :P Pot up (super set) Cast claws of guthix Cast the spell that lowers defenece Spec with the dorsh bow Take out whip... dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted June 23, 2006 Author Share Posted June 23, 2006 Wow, get a full crystal bow/ kharil xbow, dorsheguun xbow, spec with dorsh, and theyve got a hella p00nin coming their way :P Pot up (super set) Cast claws of guthix Cast the spell that lowers defenece Spec with the dorsh bow Take out whip... dead. You'd have to start with the Dorgeshuun bow... If they have auto retaliate on, thry automaticly face you on the first strike... THE ONLY WAY to lower someones def with 51 is when you hit them in the back. So the best way to deal with this is: -Range pot and superset pot up -Spec with Dorgeshuun Bow (preferably with Barbed Bolts (s)) -Keep firing till they reach you to counter attack -Whip Or: Range pot up. -Dorgeshuun Bow spec (with same bolt as before) -Crystal Bow or Kharils Xbow Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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