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Hmm....I thought Jagex was doing a good job with the macroers...then tonight...I'm wandering around doing a quest (temple of Ikov) and go into Varrock...what do I see in the northeast corner but 3 bots..then I go to West bank..and my lord...shoulda seen them all. I was on a relatively unpopulated world too!

 

 

 

They were all going rune essence mining.

 

 

 

I haven't seen that many macroers before in my life (i've been playing for 5+ years).

 

 

 

Have they lost control of them again? (assuming they had control in the first place..)

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the botters keeps making more and more advanced programs... but i jagex actually took the time to send in their REAL staff (not normal mods) and had a look at the amount of level 3s flying about then they would do something about it....

 

 

 

but in the end its this:

 

 

 

High numbers of people in members = money for them

 

 

 

they dont really give half a monkeys about the botters as long as they pay on the members too.

 

 

 

AND they let botters get away with botting and dont read the appeals of people who were banned for no reason!?

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I doubt that Jagex will ever be able to stop autoers unless they find a way to detect bots being used as soon as the bot is turned on or whatever and ban them immediately. They can ban as many people as they want right now, but as long as these autoers are able to spend at least a day or two autoing (though it's usually weeks/months), they'll keep making new accounts.

 

 

 

Something I ran into a few days ago while checking on my spirit tree:

 

 

 

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..and there were even more autoers banking! :wall:

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Got bored and went to mine in the crafters guild... 3 autos in there, hitting the gold. I had a damn hard time getting some, and only did so because my level is higher. Almost every server had at least 1 there.

 

 

 

This is my first month back after a long break, and I'm really beginning to doubt paying for this game again. The cheating is rampant...

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A big reason why I really dislike Jagex way to try to stop autoers-

 

 

 

They made a change bewtween pure ess and normal ess. Yeah, it stopped a lil on the macro on the essense. But guess what, they are on yews. What's next for Jagex, making yews member only? They'll just attack coals and iron next. Jagex cannot win unless they wipe out by tracking a group of auto at a time. If the only thing they do is make F2P life worst, hoping they make 5 bucks more per month, even though they are a company, they are failing.

 

 

 

Ranged Crave

 

Guess what? Someone suggested that :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Going on a macro report trip!

 

I don't care if people call me wannabe mod. I'm not anyways, I'm a wanna-stop macroing.

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Yeah I'm getting pretty sick of them too. I don't train much in the ways of fishing/woodcutting lately but when I have it just annoys me now. Woodcutting used to be quite fun mainly because of the people you would meet and talk to while doing it!

 

 

 

Nowadays it's just macro'ed characters running through and spoiling all the fun.

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Yesterday night, I went on a macro-report trip. I counted them, they were eleven. I won't say the exact names, but that's basically how it went.

 

 

 

WWeee801

 

wweee802

 

wweee803

 

wweee804

 

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I found a wweee872 :uhh: :ohnoes:

Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can

Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude?

Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you?

Camera guy: still laughing

Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy

Camera guy: runs away still laughing

Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down

Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]!

Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL!

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Usually bots don't affect my game play, as i don't woodcut and I mine in remote locations like Crandor. However, i see them a lot at the Karamja fishing dock, which is really annoying. I report any bot I see, and yes, reporting does make a difference.

 

EVERYONE START REPORTING THEM NOW!!!!!!!!!

Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
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Just here to give you a bit of news: Jagex is doing something about this bot problem.

 

 

 

Don't believe me? Here's some numbers given to me by a Jagex Mod in ICU, the team that deals with Real World Item Trading:

 

 

 

- Sweatshop/Gold Farming Accounts banned ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ 15,804

 

- Accounts banned for buying Gold ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ 1310

 

- Gold Reclaimed from ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâBuyers̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ 3.2 Billion GP

 

 

 

That's only in that week. In seven days, they banned over 15 000 accounts because of our macro problem - so we can't say that they're not doing anything, because they most definitely are.

 

 

 

I also know that almost every day (at least several times a week), real Jagex mods are going out there and hitting the bot hotspots in bot-busting sessions. They're going out there and banning them right before your eyes (I myself saw one just... disappear, right in the middle of a swing at a yew tree. It was really weird. :P). They're hitting the yew trees in south Falador, they're hitting the green dragon macros, and, from what I hear, they've just hit the fishing bots at Catherby.

 

 

 

They're doing something. You may not consider it a lot in the large scope of things, but Jagex are most definitely trying to combat this problem.

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Well as long as I see lists like these:

 

 

 

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I keep on doubting about their way of banning... Nevertheless also I know they are doing things about them. I think there must come a special part where you can report long lists of them very fast. At this moment it is only possible to report long lists in the custommer support place, but when I report there (with a nonmember noob account indeed but whatever) I only receive a automessage about "you can look up the answer in the Customer Support section" :roll: right... The answer really will be there... I also think that quest idea is quite a good solution, autoÃÆÃâÃâërs will definetly have more trouble that way.

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Macroers inflate the hiscores by so much. *sigh* I was scammed 88k by one. 4k reg ess -> 400 reg ess.

 

 

 

JaGex should at least take away the 1-minute limit for reporting macroing.

 

 

 

It's there for a reason... So people don't spam the report abuse.

Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can

Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude?

Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you?

Camera guy: still laughing

Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy

Camera guy: runs away still laughing

Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down

Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]!

Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL!

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JaGeX already disciplines players for abusing the ... abuse button--or so I hear. :lol:

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Yes, for macroing, they can do that.

Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can

Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude?

Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you?

Camera guy: still laughing

Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy

Camera guy: runs away still laughing

Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down

Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]!

Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL!

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One way of limiting the tree cutter bots would be to nake a person have to wield a certain level of axe to cut a certain level of tree.

 

 

 

bronze-cuts only regular trees-any level can wield

 

iron-cuts oak and lower-requires level 5 combat to wield

 

steel-cuts willow and lower-requires level 15 combat to wield

 

mith-cuts maple and lower-requires level 25 combat to wield

 

addy-cuts yew and lower-requires level 35 combat to wield

 

rune-cuts magic and lower-requires level 40 combat to wield

 

 

 

If you had a scale like this it would help limit macroers because it would take more time to develop the character. Any of you that say, I am a woodcutting pure I say bologna your a macroer.

 

 

 

Jagex could also do the same thing with mining and fishing.

 

 

 

Opposed? Well, realize the majority of players hate macroers, so your vote doesn't count. Face it your the minority and your company in the game would not be missed by true players.

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One way of limiting the tree cutter bots would be to nake a person have to wield a certain level of axe to cut a certain level of tree.

 

 

 

bronze-cuts only regular trees-any level can wield

 

iron-cuts oak and lower-requires level 5 combat to wield

 

steel-cuts willow and lower-requires level 15 combat to wield

 

mith-cuts maple and lower-requires level 25 combat to wield

 

addy-cuts yew and lower-requires level 35 combat to wield

 

rune-cuts magic and lower-requires level 40 combat to wield

 

 

 

If you had a scale like this it would help limit macroers because it would take more time to develop the character. Any of you that say, I am a woodcutting pure I say bologna your a macroer.

 

 

 

Jagex could also do the same thing with mining and fishing.

 

 

 

Opposed? Well, realize the majority of players hate macroers, so your vote doesn't count. Face it your the minority and your company in the game would not be missed by true players.

 

No, in first case because skillers are not be able to do anything they want this way, in second case this does allready happen, the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs don't wield their axe but keep it in their inventory. This makes it more easy for them to repair it if the axehead flies off.

 

 

 

Macroers inflate the hiscores by so much. *sigh* I was scammed 88k by one. 4k reg ess -> 400 reg ess.

 

 

 

JaGex should at least take away the 1-minute limit for reporting macroing.

 

Has allready been done, if you report long lists in every case. This mean that you can report xxxx1, xxxx2, xxxx3, xxxx4 and so on within 1 minit. But as far as I know you still can't report xxxx1, asdf5, fslk3, werw9 within 1 minit... :(

 

You can try it, just go to a place with a lot of autoÃÆÃâÃâërs, find one with a number behind, add him, add the numbers around it also and report them all one for one ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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deyan,

 

 

 

I think you missed the point I was trying to make. Even keeping the axe in your inventory would not work since the key would be that even though the axe is in your inventory you still would not be able to use it to cut trees so it could work you would only need to code it properly. Basically you code the tree to not be able to be cut by anything lower than the required axe (just as it checks for your woodcutting level). Next you would need to code the axe to check for the appropriate combat level. Would this get rid of macroers? certainly not totally but it would seriously hinder them being able to mass produce so many.

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deyan,

 

 

 

I think you missed the point I was trying to make. Even keeping the axe in your inventory would not work since the key would be that even though the axe is in your inventory you still would not be able to use it to cut trees so it could work you would only need to code it properly. Basically you code the tree to not be able to be cut by anything lower than the required axe (just as it checks for your woodcutting level). Next you would need to code the axe to check for the appropriate combat level. Would this get rid of macroers? certainly not totally but it would seriously hinder them being able to mass produce so many.

 

So... This will be annoying for skillers while it doesn't stop autoÃÆÃâÃâërs? :roll: Than it isn't a good idea I'm affraid :(

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