mcneilp Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Having just sold my d scimmy (amongst other things) i have now acquired my very first whip...nd i loveit!!! I think it is noticibly faster than the scimmy and i like the noise it makes wen u attack something :wall: Weak Point but hey...WHIPS RULE!! \ It isn't in the castle, It isn't in the mist, It's a calling of the waters, As they break to show, The new Black Death, With reactors aglow, Do you think your security, Can keep you in purity, You will not shake us off above or belowScottish frictionScottish fiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurechaos Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 I hate Strength. It's all about Attack. Whip owns while training Attack. Whip is better. Faster speed + Bigger Bonuses = Better. 99 Firemaking | 99 Mage | 99 Range | 99 Hitpoints | 99 Strength | 99 Attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgnslyer_15 Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 the whip is so much better than the d scimmy... Like a lot of people have said you hit harder and more often.. I found myself hittin relatively low and a lot of 0s with the scimmy whereas i'd hit 25+ way more often with my whip.. RSN: drgnslyer15 15 skills 90+ - 10 skills 99 - 200m+ total exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrex Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Whip is a bit faster, hit 100 000 times and there is a difference you can notice. Whip hits that 1 higher, hit 100 000 times and there is a difference you can notice. Whip is better And if you go to pest control, you get the strength from there. RetiredEx-E174Ex-Venqeance[Ex-Tha Familia3] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakerules13 Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 You should also add that a whips special is quite bad. first of all, your an idiot. Who actually uses the d scim special or the whip special? only people who are in wars use d scims for praying people. and have we forgoten how many people use dds's? answer that question for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 The whip is only slightly better, yes. But it adds up when you need 12,300,000 xp to max out attack (from 70). That adds up, and the difference is even noticable when you kill one monster. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aglips Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 First of all to all people who say i'm jealous because I cannot afford are just plain wrong because I do in fact own a whip (along with full guthans and ahrims). I just haven't used it in months because I am currently strength to 99. That is the only point I was trying to make, the whip is a great weapon I just think that it is somewhat overrated when you look at what everyone thinks about it. And what weapon will you be using when you no longer have to train strength? If you feel it's overrated, then I hope you remember this thread then and still use your d scimmy instead of the whip. No matter where you go, be it CW, PC or training att or def, almost everybody (especially the high cb levels) will be using a whip. The only time a whip owner doesn't use it is when training str. Why? Because it's the best wep in the game. So it really doesn't matter whether you think people overrate it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalheart Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Whip isn't over-rated at all. Anyone, even lvl 3's can make 1M a day on RS2 i really think 2 days of work for the best wepon ingame is worth it.. ..::Attack, Mage, Ranged & Hitpoints 99 | Total DK Drops: #223++::.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sessie Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 If you don't have the money to buy decent gear, then you really should try to play more efficient. Getting money is rather easy, just by using skills like slayer and farming/herblore. There is no reason to train attack, defense and hits without a whip, it simply deals more damage per second than any other melee weapon in the game. The only reason you should wear a dragon scimmy is to train strength faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodveld Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Haha, this topic is funny. So many people arguing over such small things. Whip has faster attack rate (same as dagger) and gives 82 STR bonus against scimmy's 66. Daggers, whips, and scimitars all have the same attack speedBecause no one here has heard it yet, yup. You should also add that a whips special is quite bad.So is scim's. You never denied the fact that it's the stongest melee weapon in the game. Nice. No, to you idiots hoping to abuse my phrasing, I'm not saying it hits the highest, I'm saying that it is the strongest weapon when applying the factors of both speed and damage.Yes, yes, I understand what you mean, but I feel like using your quote to express my opinion. I personally think that full dharoks is the best way to train, preferably at half hp on low hitting monsters (like fire giants). This way, you still have a very low chance of dying, and yet you hit really high numbers very constantly. (<3 salve ammy(e), I love constant numbers in the high 30s on undead. :D) I've owned my whip for 1 month, and then i sold it... I tested it out at the jellies in the slayer dungeon: D Scim : 2 hours, 83 jellies killed, 87, 92, 78, 68 Abby Whip: 2 hours, 76 jellies killed, 84, 68, 69, 85 Abby whip and D scim both use slash, I seem to hit less 0's with D scim, and I seem to hit much high damage. Slayer tasks take longer with whip, so does training, so does clue gathering. So in my opinion D scim is waaay better. (made some good profit from the tests too :D )One time, I was able to kill a room full of jellies WITH ONE PUNCH!! :o It was crazy! They each dropped D plates too! Too bad they all broke on the floor. :'( :^_^: I drew that smilie, btw, along with a few more used by this site.Classic bloodveld for lyph3! Although I do like the new ones.Like a ninja, here I was, gone I am now.BUT! I may be back! Add my new account, Dr Bloodveld! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamzheng Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 It's not overrated, it's worth the price, it certainly doesn't take months to save for it (took 1 - 2 days for me). It also hits alot with it's good strength bonus, it hit often, which is awesome, it's fast, also awesome, it's the best weapon for anyone that can have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylax38 Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 First of all to all people who say i'm jealous because I cannot afford are just plain wrong because I do in fact own a whip (along with full guthans and ahrims). I just haven't used it in months because I am currently strength to 99. That is the only point I was trying to make, the whip is a great weapon I just think that it is somewhat overrated when you look at what everyone thinks about it. And what weapon will you be using when you no longer have to train strength? If you feel it's overrated, then I hope you remember this thread then and still use your d scimmy instead of the whip. No matter where you go, be it CW, PC or training att or def, almost everybody (especially the high cb levels) will be using a whip. The only time a whip owner doesn't use it is when training str. Why? Because it's the best wep in the game. So it really doesn't matter whether you think people overrate it or not. Of course I am going to use whip when I no longer have to train strength that was never part of my argument and I completely agree that whip is a great weapon. I just don't think it lives up to the hype its been given, thats all. ~>~Check Out My Bursting Guide~<~Current goals - 99 Slayer, 99 Summoning, 85 DungeoneeringAchieved goals - Quest Cape, 99 Strength, 85 Slayer, 99 Range, 88 Summoning, 90 Slayer, 99 Magic, 99 Farming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal_55 Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 this is gunna sound kinda weird but... i find i hit WAY beter with a d long than anything else : i max at 38 with a whip but i dont hit, i dont hit with the scimmy either, i whip out a d long and im whopping out 35's every second turn. its kinda strange, but i dont mind doing huge amouts of damage :thumbsup: and for the record. dagger/whip attack rate: 1.30 seconds delay scimmy attack rate: 1.50 seconds delay, there is a differance, its just a small one. nudist hippy vegan elves who inexplicably wear leather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_sunny Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Reason #1 - No Strength Training As you can see from my stats I am a very heavy strength trainer. This therefore is my biggest problem with the whip, the fact that one cannot train strength with this weapon effectively. This is not to say whip does not have its advantages when training attack or defense but not being able to train strength effectively is a big problem in my opinion. I didn't know this when I purchased it, so I was a bit confused why str training was so slow with it. :oops: Reason #2 - D Scim From my personal experience use both whip and d scim I have found that whip only increases my max hit by 1 and I hit relatively as often with both weapons. This therefore brings price into the equation where whip go for around 1.9mill at the moment and d scim can be bought for 100k. This is a 1.8mill difference being payed for a weapon that only hits 1 damage better. I don't think it's mainly the 1 damage difference, but it's showing that you can afford a high priced weapon. Reason #3 - People It really makes me made when I see level 70's and even a few 80's who there soul goal in this game is to own a whip. They save up all their money for months and finally can afford it yet they don't have a decent set of armor to complement such a weapon. I personally would much rather spend 2 mill on torags, d scim, and dds then a whip with full rune. I remember saving up for a whip. Unlike some people who sell all their items just to get a whip I had full black mystic, full rune, and full black d'hide to complement it. :P Really I don't wear my whip around that much- I'm a meat tenderiser kinda guy. Sure a whip symbolizes wealth and a high attack level, but I found it to a bit boring. I don't want to be viewed as an all out combat person, that is what I think you are saying to people when you wear your whip around all day. A tendy on the other hand shows you've hacked your way through quests to rack up 175qp and beat the culinaromancer himself- which requires not only combat skills but a ton of noncombat skills(ex. you need 70 cooking for one subquest). By popular demand, this signature is back- however I currently do not have a blog up at the moment and if I did I wouldn't update it. Sorry, the sig links to nowhere :( . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyMcNabb Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Whip has faster attack rate (same as dagger) and gives 82 STR bonus against scimmy's 66. Daggers, whips, and scimitars all have the same attack speed Whips are faster than any other weapon... check the knowledge base itself... whips are fastest in game... Anyway.... the whip is for fast and good attack and defence training... you just dont want it because *oooh, I'm a strength pure!* nice 30s you hit there with a scim.... but how often do you hit them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Maybe your just angry that you can't afford one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetsoccer Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 I cant live without my whip =) Im not a fan of str so..no scim for me and I alwayyysss train controlled with whip :thumbsup: I always tell the truth even when I lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dragon_Reborn Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 I saved for 1 month the first month I got members and bought Wihp + Zammy Plate + Zammy Legs + D med + Obby set. And I was only lvl 79 at the time. Whip hits fast + Hits hard + NO QUEST REQUIREMENT. Get 70 attack at pest control, and you can have yourself a whip. D scim hits fast + Not as hard as whip + Quest Requirement. You have to quest for hours, and raise stats to do MM, where Whip you don practically nothing with PC. ~~Let The Dragon ride again, on the winds of time~~I've always felt as if I'm the only person who can understand the concept of sarcasm on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reverberates Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Whip > You Nuff Said. Private Chat Is Always On 10,183rd To 99 Fletching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxyiz Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 This therefore brings price into the equation where whip go for around 1.9mill at the moment and d scim can be bought for 100k. This is a 1.8mill difference being payed for a weapon that only hits 1 damage better. Yeah dscim is a better choice if your poor, but if you have the money for a whip, decent armor, and some decent mage armor, then why not buy a whip? It's like saying that we should all just use rune scims because we save 70k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
userx1000 Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 well about the whip, i think it looks cool but after completing monkey madness i am thinking, d scimi yay! but then its like i need 70 attk for a whip1?!!?!?!? more training?!!?! i like scimi overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noble_skull Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Probably going to get flamed for this because so many people are in love with there whips but at least listen to my argument before you attempt a retort. Reason #1 - No Strength Training As you can see from my stats I am a very heavy strength trainer. This therefore is my biggest problem with the whip, the fact that one cannot train strength with this weapon effectively. This is not to say whip does not have its advantages when training attack or defense but not being able to train strength effectively is a big problem in my opinion. Reason #2 - D Scim From my personal experience use both whip and d scim I have found that whip only increases my max hit by 1 and I hit relatively as often with both weapons. This therefore brings price into the equation where whip go for around 1.9mill at the moment and d scim can be bought for 100k. This is a 1.8mill difference being payed for a weapon that only hits 1 damage better. Reason #3 - People It really makes me made when I see level 70's and even a few 80's who there soul goal in this game is to own a whip. They save up all their money for months and finally can afford it yet they don't have a decent set of armor to complement such a weapon. I personally would much rather spend 2 mill on torags, d scim, and dds then a whip with full rune. Well thats my two cents on why I feel whips are incredibly overrated feel free to post comments and rebuttal my argument I will not be affended by any comments made. Biggest cowdung I've ever heard. Proud member of The Slayer's Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikemaster25 Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Whip owns man, it's such a good weapon if they added a str option then there would be no need for any other weapon. :-# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_drunk_dude Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Whip > You Nuff Said. sums it up nicely there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bludragon124 Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Okay, time to dispel the rumors about whip being faster than the scimitar. Home > Manual > Combat > Combat - Weapon Types. Follow that at the knowledge base, and you will see for yourselves that they both are EXACTLY THE SAME RATE OF ATTACK! And, here is my response to his opinions. 1: Yes, whip does not have strength training, which is a significant setback. However, when not training strength, it is unparalleled. In short, Str training Scimmy > Whip. 2:The max hit the whip will/can hit depends on four things. Strength level, Strength bonus, Prayers, and potions. The higher your levels, bonuses etc.: the higher exponentially you will hit. Whip hits better than scimitar, and more accurately. 3. While it is true many people may want a whip a bit too badly, they have every reason to. It is, if not the best, than one of the best weapons in the game. Armor, is not too important if you have a whip I think. I bought my first whip for 4M, and I only had a lederhosen hat, full blue dhide, and about 500 coins in my bank, but I was still happy. I went to collect herbs at Edgeville for full rune, then I was very happy :D . No matter what, after buying a whip your bank account will recover. Noted raw mackerel drop... Wtfh? Always buying: Watermelon seeds, 2K each. Strawberry seeds, 800 each. Contact Via PM on forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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