~Accurate History of Runescape - 3rd age ~

You know the Knowledge Base is wrong...

Wrong? Yes wrong...

Over my questing days I have gathered many information and pieced it all together to this story about the god wars.

I have come forth with this information previously, but little regard was given. However, now when everyone asks himself what the 3rd age exactly meant, I've decided to make a thread about it (and yes, I posted this elsewhere too).

Gielenor was created by Guthix, who is as oblivious as he is powerful, it is often assumed that he hibernates.

The God wars were initially between Armadyl (who lost his power with his staff) and Zaros.

Zaros had an elite group of warriors (the Mahjaratt) consisting of Hazeel, Lucien, Azzenadra, Drakan (learn more about him later), Zamorak (at the time, a mortal, and a general in Zaros' armies), Dessous, and some others.

By mere happanstance the Staff of Armadyl came to the hands of Zamorak, who used it to fight Zaros (with the help from his fellow Mahjaratt, except for Dessous, Azzenadra, who got banished into a pyramid in the desert by Zamorak and his followers) and eventually kill him with it (much of this you learn while getting your ghostly robes).

Saradomin was fighting the fight on behalf of the good guys now instead of Armadyl. Saradomin had 6 (or was it 7?) great warriors at his disposal (you know them now as the Barrows Brothers and perhaps Ivandis Seergazes who you meet in Myreque 2).

Guthix was dormant up to this point (was he awakened by the power transferring from Zaros via Armadyls staff to Zamorak?). He noticed that the world he created was getting torn apart by the war between Saradomin and Zamorak. Guthix then summoned creatures and warriors from Frenaskae (introducing dragon weapons) to end this war.

He then decreed that no god may interfere directly in the affairs of mortals, only their followers can.

This ended the 3rd age.

The balance was quite even up untill now.

The wilderness is a place where Zamorak's power can be felt, but also his followers do a good job in Morytania. There literally every drop of blood is squeezed from the people that live there by the former mahjaratt Draken and his lieutenants: Vanstrom Klause, Lady Vanescula and the late Gadderanks. Not to mention Charos, who was Drakans right hand man, and such an expert in diplomacy, he could control the weakminded (Jedi anyone?). But the once glorious Morytania is now badly corrupted, so bad that Necrovarus has turned the townpeople of Port Phasmatys all into ghosts so that they dont have to pay the blood tithe anymore. And everywhere else the effects are visible: The only source of good ore for armor and weaponry has been haunted. The population of an entire town has been afflicted to fade away into undead shades. Canifis is inhabited by werewolves, and in the vast swamps ghasts will attack you out of nowhere.

These evil forces were kept at bay because they could not cross the river salve, but werewolves have been seen on the western side of it.

On top of that, the Saradominist king is not allowed to send troops in to help out because it could swing the balance too far back. If this happens, Guthix could wake up once again and make the world anew, and all that exists now will be lost.

The best he can do is to allow adventurers to take up arms and go into the evil swamps on their own accord.

Disclaimer:

I have taken great care in trying not to misspell any names. So all information found here can be trusted as being accurate. If you have any questions whatsoever, I will do my best to answer them.

Thats a lot of history :shock:

Very nice. Another reason to be a Guthix follower :) .

:shock: Never even heard about those names, how on earth do you get to this story?? Maybe I should just do some quests :ohnoes:

But it was a nice read though! =D>

Awesome!

I remeber reading some of the history in the "Lores and Histories" section of the website, but I didn't remeber any of that!

Looks like even l33t-er God armor, and maybe some new stuff from Frenaskae?

That's awsome dude. Nice attention to detail and must have paid a lot of attention during quests, etc.

I'm soon about to start getting ghostly robes and will be reading every step of the way, the history interests me and this helps and is an interesting read.

You posted this in another thread. And why are you directly calling the knowledge base wrong? :roll:

Very nice. Another reason to be a Guthix follower :) .

same here. I was thinking of guthix for 3 reasons

1- cheapest, but still effective godbook

2- God of balance so I don't always have to act good or evil

3- My friend gave me full guthix.

but now this has convinced me even more by how he seemed like the most powerful god, ending the god wars and such.

Very nice ns :o

I love to read runescape history, it might sound 'nerdy' but I enjoy reading jagex's work.

PS: When are you gonna buy my graahk set? :)

You posted this in another thread. And why are you directly calling the knowledge base wrong? :roll:

Because the knowledge base states that Saradomin, Zamorak and Guthix together created the world.

Zamorak could not have existed then as he was still a mortal at the 3rd age, which began some 6000 years later. On top of that, Zamorak wasn't even a god back then, and even if he was, he would never work together with Saradomin.

You know the Knowledge Base is wrong...

 

 

 

Wrong? Yes wrong...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Over my questing days I have gathered many information and pieced it all together to this story about the god wars.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have come forth with this information previously, but little regard was given. However, now when everyone asks himself what the 3rd age exactly meant, I've decided to make a thread about it (and yes, I posted this elsewhere too).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gielenor was created by Guthix, who is as oblivious as he is powerful, it is often assumed that he hibernates.

 

 

 

The God wars were initially between Armadyl (who lost his power with his staff) and Zaros.

 

 

 

Zaros had an elite group of warriors (the Mahjaratt) consisting of Hazeel, Lucien, Azzenadra, Drakan (learn more about him later), Zamorak (at the time, a mortal, and a general in Zaros' armies), Dessous, and some others.

 

 

 

By mere happanstance the Staff of Armadyl came to the hands of Zamorak, who used it to fight Zaros (with the help from his fellow Mahjaratt, except for Dessous, Azzenadra, who got banished into a pyramid in the desert by Zamorak and his followers) and eventually kill him with it (much of this you learn while getting your ghostly robes).

 

 

 

Saradomin was fighting the fight on behalf of the good guys now instead of Armadyl. Saradomin had 6 (or was it 7?) great warriors at his disposal (you know them now as the Barrows Brothers and perhaps Ivandis Seergazes who you meet in Myreque 2).

 

 

 

Guthix was dormant up to this point (was he awakened by the power transferring from Zaros via Armadyls staff to Zamorak?). He noticed that the world he created was getting torn apart by the war between Saradomin and Zamorak. Guthix then summoned creatures and warriors from Frenaskae (introducing dragon weapons) to end this war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He then decreed that no god may interfere directly in the affairs of mortals, only their followers can.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This ended the 3rd age.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The balance was quite even up untill now.

 

 

 

The wilderness is a place where Zamorak's power can be felt, but also his followers do a good job in Morytania. There literally every drop of blood is squeezed from the people that live there by the former mahjaratt Draken and his lieutenants: Vanstrom Klause, Lady Vanescula and the late Gadderanks. Not to mention Charos, who was Drakans right hand man, and such an expert in diplomacy, he could control the weakminded (Jedi anyone?). But the once glorious Morytania is now badly corrupted, so bad that Necrovarus has turned the townpeople of Port Phasmatys all into ghosts so that they dont have to pay the blood tithe anymore. And everywhere else the effects are visible: The only source of good ore for armor and weaponry has been haunted. The population of an entire town has been afflicted to fade away into undead shades. Canifis is inhabited by werewolves, and in the vast swamps ghasts will attack you out of nowhere.

 

 

 

These evil forces were kept at bay because they could not cross the river salve, but werewolves have been seen on the western side of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On top of that, the Saradominist king is not allowed to send troops in to help out because it could swing the balance too far back. If this happens, Guthix could wake up once again and make the world anew, and all that exists now will be lost.

 

 

 

The best he can do is to allow adventurers to take up arms and go into the evil swamps on their own accord.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Disclaimer:

 

 

 

I have taken great care in trying not to misspell any names. So all information found here can be trusted as being accurate.

very long but good

That history is well skewed and anyone who reads the ghostly robe story can see it

World was made in the first age by Guthix

Zammy was a mortal

Sara and Zaros were good and evil basically

Zaros ruled over wildy, zammy followed one of the desert gods

Zammy killed Zaros with armydals staff and went into this big exile

When Zammy returned in the third age he was no longer mortal but a god, this was when the god wars broke out.

I have done every quest in the game and read everything in the knowledge base it is correct, its your history that is wrong. Your story is right you have just squashed multiple ages into 1 chunk.

First age was creation, lae first age to mid second age was Zammy killing Zaros, in what was more an accident than a battle as Zaros fell onto the staff.

Zammy was then in exile until he re-appeared as a god in the third age.

The third age is when they god wars then began, most probably as zammy tried to claim followers, land and greater power than he already had achieved by accident.

The early stages were not god wars as Zammy was a mortal and all that happend was Zaros fell onto a staff

vary vary nice =D> man mabe all start reading all the chet chat during quests .

ps i hate questing so i try to do them as fast as i can :-w

That history is well skewed and anyone who reads the ghostly robe story can see it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

World was made in the first age by Guthix

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zammy was a mortal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sara and Zaros were good and evil basically

Zaros was not really evil, he was just really powerfull and pretty much unstoppable

Zaros ruled over wildy, zammy followed one of the desert gods

Yeah, he followed Zaros :P right up tot he point where he got a chance to kill him.

Zammy killed Zaros with armydals staff and went into this big exile

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When Zammy returned in the third age he was no longer mortal but a god, this was when the god wars broke out.

His big exile? read the last bit of the Ghostly route again... when Zamorak managed to pull the Staff of Armadyl from his gut he glowed with a very awesome power, aka he had become a god.

I have done every quest in the game and read everything in the knowledge base it is correct, its your history that is wrong. Your story is right you have just squashed multiple ages into 1 chunk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First age was creation, lae first age to mid second age was Zammy killing Zaros, in what was more an accident than a battle as Zaros fell onto the staff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zammy was then in exile until he re-appeared as a god in the third age.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The third age is when they god wars then began, most probably as zammy tried to claim followers, land and greater power than he already had achieved by accident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The early stages were not god wars as Zammy was a mortal and all that happend was Zaros fell onto a staff

I stated exactly where the 3rd age started and ended.

but once again:

3rd age started with Zaros and Armadyl already going at it. Armadyl lost his staff, which came to the hands of Zamorak, who used it to kill Zaros (although he nearly failed at that). Armadyl and Zaros lost their powers (read the main story again for how) and basicly Saradomin and Zamorak went at it thereafter. They both tore this world to pieces when Guthix interveined, and decreed that no god may interfere directly with the mortals of this world.

The first age was the age of creation

The 2nd age was when gods came to walk this earth (at the time, this were from most to least powerful; Zaros, Armadyl, Saradomin, Elidinnis, Icthlarin, Amascut, Seren, and several lesser gods like the one from Tai Bwo Wannai).

The 3rd age is when the godwars began and ended, as I told before.

The 4th age was the nomadic age, where many tribes of mortals fought for survival, and when the runestones were uncovered this age ended as many humans could now wield magical powers.

We now live in the 5th age at the year 169.

A little note:

Zaros and his followers all used magic without runestones, this made them powerfull, but not neccisarily evil. The reason that Armadyl, Saradomin and Zamorak alike each took a turn at trying to defeat Zaros is thought to have come forth from mere jealousy.

Very nice. Another reason to be a Guthix follower :) .

Guthix always does the job!

Very interesting read. Kept me entertained.

Some good research done.

Good job!

Great post Ts_Stormrage

One thing i can't remember (i have done the ghostly robes quest) but what happens to Armydals staff? Wouldn't mind getting my hands on that kind of power ;)

You posted this in another thread. And why are you directly calling the knowledge base wrong? :roll:

Do you ever contribute anything other than negativity to threads? :/

Great post Ts_Stormrage

 

 

 

One thing i can't remember (i have done the ghostly robes quest) but what happens to Armydals staff? Wouldn't mind getting my hands on that kind of power ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You posted this in another thread. And why are you directly calling the knowledge base wrong? :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you ever contribute anything other than negativity to threads? :/

Great post Ts_Stormrage

 

 

 

One thing i can't remember (i have done the ghostly robes quest) but what happens to Armydals staff? Wouldn't mind getting my hands on that kind of power ;)

The staff was merely a conduit for Zaros' power. If you've done the ghostly robes quest you should know that Zaros was hardly impressed by Zamorak.

Right up to the point that Zaros lifted Zamorak into the air by his throat is when Zaros lost his footing and fell directly onto the Staff of Armadyl, which impaled him completely, and also burrowed itself into Zamoraks gut...

The staff can now be found in the Temple of Ikov.

Former Mahjaratt Lucien (one of those that betrayed Zaros) asks you to bring it to him, so he can wield its power. You get a choice to be good or evil. If you leave it and warn the Guardians you get to be good. If you take it and kill the Gaurdians you then take it to Lucien, who gladly takes the staff from you.

Something similar happens where you have to pick supposedly between good and evil during The Hazeel Cult quest. It is where you can pick the bad side and side with the thieves to revive Hazeel (like Lucien, a former Mahjaratt who betrayed Zaros as well).

If you picked the good sides in Hazeel Cult and Temple of Ikov, it will probably earn you some favor with Zaros. If you picked the bad sides, you will earn favor with Zamorak, but then freeing Azzenadra (former Mahjaratt, presumed son of Zaros) during Desert treasure doesn't make much sense.

So this is where the gods stand:

-Guthix is asleep

-Zaros walks the globe obliviously as a cat, but has ambitions to overthrow Zamorak, as you will learn during A Tail of Two Cats

-Saradomin has been around longer then Zamorak, and currently the most predominantly worshipped.

-Zamorak has many enemies (Azzenadra, Zaros, Saradomin, Seren), and continious to gain strength in Moritania through his former fellow Mahjaratt Drakan the Vyrelord.

-Armadyl lost most his power with his staff, and is only sparcely worshipped

-Seren has always existed as the Elf god

-Elidinis has once again a place of worship in Nardah

-Icthlarin has become obsessed with plagueing the city of Sophanem

Everyone else has little to no influence left.

This is verry intresting, keep the good work up :thumbsup:

 

That history is well skewed and anyone who reads the ghostly robe story can see it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

World was made in the first age by Guthix

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zammy was a mortal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sara and Zaros were good and evil basically

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zaros was not really evil, he was just really powerfull and pretty much unstoppable

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zaros ruled over wildy, zammy followed one of the desert gods

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, he followed Zaros :P right up tot he point where he got a chance to kill him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zammy killed Zaros with armydals staff and went into this big exile

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When Zammy returned in the third age he was no longer mortal but a god, this was when the god wars broke out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

His big exile? read the last bit of the Ghostly route again... when Zamorak managed to pull the Staff of Armadyl from his gut he glowed with a very awesome power, aka he had become a god.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have done every quest in the game and read everything in the knowledge base it is correct, its your history that is wrong. Your story is right you have just squashed multiple ages into 1 chunk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First age was creation, lae first age to mid second age was Zammy killing Zaros, in what was more an accident than a battle as Zaros fell onto the staff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zammy was then in exile until he re-appeared as a god in the third age.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The third age is when they god wars then began, most probably as zammy tried to claim followers, land and greater power than he already had achieved by accident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The early stages were not god wars as Zammy was a mortal and all that happend was Zaros fell onto a staff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I stated exactly where the 3rd age started and ended.

 

 

 

but once again:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3rd age started with Zaros and Armadyl already going at it. Armadyl lost his staff, which came to the hands of Zamorak, who used it to kill Zaros (although he nearly failed at that). Armadyl and Zaros lost their powers (read the main story again for how) and basicly Saradomin and Zamorak went at it thereafter. They both tore this world to pieces when Guthix interveined, and decreed that no god may interfere directly with the mortals of this world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The first age was the age of creation

 

 

 

The 2nd age was when gods came to walk this earth (at the time, this were from most to least powerful; Zaros, Armadyl, Saradomin, Elidinnis, Icthlarin, Amascut, Seren, and several lesser gods like the one from Tai Bwo Wannai).

 

 

 

The 3rd age is when the godwars began and ended, as I told before.

 

 

 

The 4th age was the nomadic age, where many tribes of mortals fought for survival, and when the runestones were uncovered this age ended as many humans could now wield magical powers.

 

 

 

We now live in the 5th age at the year 169.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A little note:

 

 

 

Zaros and his followers all used magic without runestones, this made them powerfull, but not neccisarily evil. The reason that Armadyl, Saradomin and Zamorak alike each took a turn at trying to defeat Zaros is thought to have come forth from mere jealousy.

If you read all the info carefulyl and correctly Zammy went into exile as a mortal and came back at the start of the third age as a god.

Its true he glwoed with power when he removed the staff but at that point he was sitll mortal and saradomin exiled him.

When he was a god at his return at the start of 3rd age he wanted revenege on sara for exiling him as he now had the power to do it

Nice job on all the facts. =D> The upcoming quest for the Wise old Man will tell us even more. I'm not sure, but he might fall under a warrior of Saradomin. He has the armor and he can use Saradomin strike. Maybe learning about him and his ambitions might explain more about the gods? :-s

I doubt that the Wise Old Man has anything new to tell us... He even states that Saradomin created the world all by himself, and he fears the Mahjaratt...

When you mention to him that you learnt ancient spells (finished Desert Treasure) he warns you to never use them.

If anything, he is the Biased Old Man...

Absolutely NO wisdom at all... senile old bugger :\

The lore in the Knowledge Base is based off Reldo's library in Varrock. It shouldn't really be true if you get my meaning. :wink:

Zaros will rise again. (Please let the new t trails contain zarosian armor?)

Maybe include something about the dragonkin? KBD made an interesting quote about them.

"Every balance has a counterbalance, lest he forget."

"He" is Guthix.

I have a screenie of bob claiming to be zaros, when asked about his beliefs. I also have a pic of my query to jagex about this. Would someone tell me how to crop and post pics using fedora core?