Makoto_the_Phoenix

You call this loyal? [bleep] you 8-) Well I guess that's loyalty for you -- they pay Jagex $5, and they automatically earn the right to act like spoiled brats. They give us what we've cried out for over the span of a year and a half, and we slap them in the face. We demanded that major and drastic changes to RWT and autoers be put an end to once and for all, and we got it. Not one of us can say that we expected them to do this, but nether can we say that we didn't want autoers/RWT to be abolished. Want proof? Look at the end of this post. [Literally that's only the tip of the iceberg.] We felt that autoers/macroers/bots/RWT were overrunning the game as we knew and enjoyed it. So Jagex took action (after a long and hard deliberation), and based on player feedback (I don't think they could ask for more player feedback if they wanted to!), they put an end to autoers/macroers/bots/RWT as best as they could. Some of us complain that it changed the game as we knew it. Well, that's probably the price we pay for asking Jagex to seriously do something. It's downright childish to go off ranting about how they shouldn't have done these changes, because you and I both know that they were going to, so long as we kept pushing the autoer issue further and further and further along the chain. Now, we have the nerve to call Jagex "Communist", or "tyrannical", or only "concerned about the money". If anything, this goes to prove that they're interested in our best interests! If you cannot pick your head up from the ground to see that, even for a moment, then that puts you on a level no better than any five year old who can't go outside and play today. Get over your little tantrum stage and appreciate the work that Jagex has done for us based on what we asked them to do. It's a definite shock, but it was never a matter that was either small or simple to counteract (i.e. reactive banning). Evidence: Mod Murdoch whips Autoers Andrew's response to autoing Jagex...Your HELPING autoers! I see this as a very serious issue... The long truth about jagex-very important, get informed <- This could be seen as childish dribble, but it does hammer home some effect of autoers on the minds of the players Idea Against Woodcutting Marcos change to economy if autoers stopped? Regarding the Essence Autoers/Yew Log Autoers. <- Lime Mercury did some good work on this one, so it's worth a read P Mods: Get Exp While Getting Rid of Yew Bots! ------ Afterword: The list goes on, people. Just hit up a search for "autoers", "goldfarmers", "macroers", and you'll see a lot more information about the hatred of the matter than I would care to bring to your attention at this time. It's just that all of those theories and ideas and what not don't go to nearly the same length that Jagex did. It's not really our fault -- not one of us here really knows what goes on behind the scenes, nor did we know what Jagex was doing to counteract it, until the Development Diary was revealed. Here's a partial list of what was suggested here on these boards, and why it wouldn't necessarily work. IP banning is already in effect. Proxies and constant renewal of IPs can be done in a matter of thirty seconds. MAC address banning is easy enough to counter-circumvent as well. Adding any sort of detection software goes against the idea that Jagex/RuneScape is 100% safe, as they might be flipping through your browsing history. It's not that any one of us does anything bad, I just don't want anyone to go through that stuff without my permission. Hardware detection and banning isn't possible. Only way that a computer can communicate with another is through a MAC address (Logical Link Control), so doing anything with the hard disk or processor is out of the freaking question. Adding various blocks to skills through other skills means that the autoer levels two skills instead of one. Drop trading goods, getting "PKed", unbalanced duels, death by environment and the Party Room were covert ways to transfer RuneScape gold/goods without being immediately traceable. [Think about it -- who actually used the Party Room anyway?] Well that's all I have to say about the matter. You can either whine about what you wanted, or you can appreciate what they've gone through to get rid of this kind of scum once and for all. [While you're at it, why don't you boycott some of the "fansites" that have these same goldselling advertisements in their banners? I don't think Tip has any like that, so you're cool there...]

Things take time, but either Chinchompas or Slayer (specifically gathering herbs from Spectrals) could be seen as fast.

If you cannot find another reason to keep playing this vast game besides PKing, then by all means you should be quitting. Just do the community a favor: don't let the door hit you on the way out.

It's bedtime on a school night. That's all that need be said.

I'm almost 20 (in the spring), and I don't have a mobile. Don't really want one, either. I do have a driver's license, a W2, and various other forms of legal age verification and identification. Should I be cut out of the loop because I don't have a mobile? Besides, there's not any one way to fight the autoer/RTS problem, not that we know of. A theory of mine would be to limit Members to accounts that fall under a certain criterion in terms of stats, but not even I think that it'd be foolproof or really would work against everything.

I don't think that they would want to commit growth suicide just to stop autoers.

Wouldn't that go against everything that Jagex has updated for?

I could've quoted your entire thing and hit some potshots, but I chose to go with this instead. The game is changing, just like everything else in the world. It doesn't matter where you go; change is inevitable. People are then faced with a choice: they can either live with the changes or they cannot. If they cannot, then they're sent along their merry way to another game that won't update nearly as frequently, listen to their community nearly as intense, or take a proactive stance against the autoer/RTS niche. Where do you think the idea for bank pins came from? What about crossbow updates? Dragon arrows and more Dragon equipment? Where do you think that Jagex gets the inspiration from? Why do you think that Jagex is trying to do something against RTS? You should also know that most anger comes out of sheer fear of change. Why do you think so many people hated the Duel Arena? It changed what they were so familiar with, and as such, they felt very threatened on their way of gaming. Why do you think so many people hated the Exchange, the ditch, various appearances of major RuneScape cities? They didn't want to cope with change, but they didn't want to just abandon a game they had come to appreciate. Those that do finally make their "gran rifuto", but they do so in such a way it doesn't benefit the game whatsoever. Why the hell should any random Joe care about some 'veteran' quitting the game? Perhaps they finally moved on with some things, perhaps they got a job, are in college, decided to play WoW... Honestly, your leaving the game doesn't make me want to light a candle for you, or even hold the door open for you. Why should I care that you can't live with what Jagex has decided to do with their game? You do not affect me directly enough for me to make you stop and reconsider; you'll have to do that with yourself on your own.

I want to see if you can see what I see here. This is your fallacy and this is why you shouldn't be so upset about it. You see what happened there? Your school and your personal AV programs never mix with one another. School antivirus protection is at best limited to serious viruses, not keyloggers. It's your own damn fault you could not wait until you got home so you could play RuneScape. Sorry, but I can't show you sympathy when you did something so obviously insecure.

404 is page not found. Moved is 302. Got it mixed up, sorry. :D We all make mistakes, don't we? :D

When I connect to that site via my Linux box (Ubuntu 7.10, if you're wondering), I just get a plain old 404 error. Means the page was moved. Chances are you're better off hunting through the server list again, and following the normal navigation of the RS site. The Java thing not working is tricky, but if you reinstall it (use Adept and search for "Java"), it should work again. Then enable it in Firefox/Konqueror, and all should be okay.

There is a difference between truth and opinion. Didn't you learn that in middle school? 1) It was sarcasm idiot. 2) Dont flame unless u want to be flamed back. First of all, how the hell am I supposed to tell sarcasm from regular conversations on the internet? I don't know you, nor can I hear your tone of voice, so why are you trying to play it off as it being "sarcastic"? Second, the difference between truth and opinion is something you should know by now. It's only a flame if you take it personally/literally. Calm down, take a deep breath, and chill. I'm not out to attack you.

Call me crazy, but it sounds like the pot's calling the kettle black. Seems to me like you're acting arrogant too -- you feel that they're not worth your time to chat with, and instead of ignoring the (very) few players that are an annoyance, you choose to block contact with strangers maybe looking for a hand with a quest or a friend. Don't look down, pot -- you're burnt too.

There is a difference between truth and opinion. Didn't you learn that in middle school?

[54Mbit? Wow, your internet's better than cable. Might want to get that double-checked.] Alright, so with your current system specs, I could easily guess that it's a problem with the RAM or the hard disk space itself. Windows uses a "swap"-type deal with your hard disks, meaning it can expand up to 4GB (XP) of virtual RAM onto the disk. While it by no means is quick RAM, nor is it intended to be a cheap replacement, you should go ahead and add a little bit more. Click on Start -> My Computer. Right-click that and hit "Properties". Go to the Advanced Tab. In the Performance box, go ahead and hit Settings. From there, hit the Advanced Tab. At the bottom, the third box, you press the "Change" button (the part about virtual memory). Set it to a custom size, then add "1024" in the top box (that adds 1GB of virtual memory minimum), then add "2048" in the bottom. You must have at least 5GB of space available for this to work. If you don't, then leave it as it is and skip this step. The second thing you can do is make sure that your computer, software and Java are up to date. Hit the Java and Windows Update websites and download all the necessary updates. The last thing you should do is defragment your drive. FAT, FAT32 and NTFS will need defragmentation periodically, and it's not something you should put off indefinitely. Go to Start -> Control Panel. Turn off Category View if you have it enabled and go to Administrative Tools. From there, click on Computer Management. Near the bottom, there's a little tool that says "Disk Defragmenter". Analyze and defragment (on the system's recommendation). Let me know if you have any troubles with this.

"Nothing interesting happened." "So that's what he meant when he said 'Freeze'..." "I spent all day killing time. Guess time got tired of it." "Warning: Reading tombstone known to periodically cause random loss of valuables. Approach with caution."

No, the Grand Exchange isn't a covert way to remove rares from the game. It doesn't take much more than a half an hour of sound and logical thinking and reason to come to that realization. If you haven't invested said time in it, let me go ahead and share with you the fruit of my thinking. First premise: They could literally do it at any time that they wanted to, without any notice. But they haven't. Someone here spoke briefly on the partyhat duplication scam that took place in '02. A lot of hats were duplicated, thus bringing their value down to near 300K (which I'd happily call 30M in today's game). While the culprits that were involved were banned, the items that they duplicated were never deleted. For an average player, it's impossible to tell one dragon chainbody apart from another, or one Godsword apart from another. For those that are familiar with databases, however, it'd become logically impossible if each item was the exact same. Even if they did have the exact same specifications of another item, they're only logical copies. That's because the items have a unique ID number associated with them, which [i assume] would come with a timestamp, trade history, and any other details and information that Jagex may deem necessary or useful. [side-note: If you know nothing of how a database works, and you try to attack me on that premise, you're going to have to do your homework before you come out and play.] Second premise: Jagex wanted us to have the rares. Sure, they blocked future rare trades from ever taking place (Ears, Scythe, et al), but they didn't go back and make any of these items untradable either. It's quite evident that Jagex isn't too shy about making certain items untradable (Payamaya Inn ticket, Doogle leaves, Palm leaves, Leaf-bladed spears, et al), and some of these items were being marketed off as being 'rare' or 'hard to find'. Well, partyhats and the like are rare, and hard to find, but they didn't bother making those untradable. (And yes, I've seen and heard of someone buying an Inn ticket for the price of half a small rare.) Third premise: The recent updates to the game have shaken up a lot of people, so their judgment can't be said to be 100%. Not even close. It's sad, but true ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ you doubt Jagex. This alone compromises your judgment. Couple that with the obvious 'scare-tactic' theory/conspiracy motif of this topic, and before you know it, you have dozens of paranoid players talking about the end of the game and how much money Jagex is going to lose this year. I refuse to make this any more long-winded than it should be, but you're only randomly clutching at straws if only to appease your confused (and disbelieving) logic at Jagex's recent motives. With that said, go soak your head or jump in a lake, or experience some cold and/or otherwise startling breeze come up your spine. You need an eye-opener. [The next person to come up with a 'conspiracy theory' absolutely deserves a Spartan spear through them. I'm not kidding.]

The way I figure it, the easiest (and best) way to prepare is to do the following three things. 1. Make sure you have plenty of time to explore the full potential of this skill. Logging in at the library ain't gonna cut it, nor will logging in while you have a sink full of dirty dishes. 2. Make sure that you have whatever goals you may have out of the way [enough] for you to experiment with this skill. Nothing breaks up your fun more than knowing you didn't finish something when you had the time to. [December looks like it's going to be pretty quiet, so take your thirty day 'vacation' while you still can.] 3. Earn as much money as you can. Chances are that this skill might not involve any existing items (such as Hunter -- only incorporated maybe four or so items that existed), so gathering large amounts of things like essence, runes, and other things might prove to be too risky in the end. I recall a horror story regarding the "Farming" skill's release -- players thought if they stocked up on seeds that they would be able to power their way to 99. Same with Construction; tiles were being collected in such massive numbers, and then the update hit and they were absolutely worthless. Be careful. Only thing that could help (if at all) would be just money. That kind of resource proves near universal when talking about skills.

I would type up a giant spiel about how this update shouldn't scare the bejezus out of every Tom, Stan and pure out there, but...just read the quote in my signature. That'll sum up my perspective nicely.

Okay, this is your fault. Either your password was too easy to guess, was written down someplace, or you had downloaded and installed something dodgy. Either way, you should've taken the initiative to secure your computer. If you played it at your friend's house then that's even worse -- you don't know what kind of computer they have. All in all, all I can say to you is, I hope you learn your lesson.

I could probably help, but there's three things I have to know. 1. What is your operating system? 2000, XP Pro, XP Home, etc. 2. What are your computer specifications? How much RAM, how fast your processor is, and how much of a Hard disk (with available space) do you have. 3. How fast is your internet? Dial-up, 256K, DSL, Cable, etc. Get back to me with those specs and I think I can resolve something. Chances are it's the problem with your computer, and definitely not something that Jagex did.

Wait wait wait wait wait. I was always under the impression that if you wanted to have a private party, you'd do so in a private POH. Just wouldn't make sense in the Party Room, if you asked me.

Why were you sitting next to someone that played RuneScape and typing in your password anyway? Didn't a red flag just shoot up? Either way, I can't sympathize with you at all. You really should have taken the steps to make your password and account a lot more secure than it was. Oh, and I think that password trafficking is a Federal offense. Really want to get back at your alleged "friend"? Wave that in their face.

Off-topic: fgfuyfyuiuy0, here's the drill. There are less Linux-based viruses not only because of the smaller market share, but because it is easily fifty to one hundred times more difficult to propagate them, or get them to really infect. Also, since Linux doesn't let any single user have true Administrative powers, the damage done to the OS is limited to that user account. Files, programs, and the like aren't affected since they'd have the same permissions as the user that ran them anyway. (That means, if I can't access a file in /dev or in /etc, then I can't do harm to it as a normal user.) Since I'm an avid Linux user, have been for about four years now, let me condense an overview that would take literally an hour to tell someone else into maybe a half a paragraph. With Windows, you have to be an admin to do literally half of the things you would do on a daily basis. With Linux, you aren't an admin to do 95% of the things you would do on a daily basis. The 5% includes patches, updates to programs, installing/uninstalling features, and changing system-wide settings, such as the clock. In Linux, being an administrator means you're only there for a second. In Windows, being an administrator means you're probably one right now. That's why Windows is so vulnerable -- admins aren't restricted to what they can run on their machine. [if you want to learn more about this, please - feel free to PM me. I like to share this kind of knowledge.] On-topic: I saw the ad today. If anything, it's only a scare tactic, and if your machine is secure then you shouldn't run into any problems. Send those screenshots into Jagex anyway; this sort of thing would give a novice user a heart attack.

1. How can you be certain they're a minor? Perhaps their English isn't so good, either. 2. If you didn't do anything wrong and someone reports you, chances are that they'll be the ones taking the punishment.