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You can kill 200-250 black demons an hour without a cannon? Please share your secret method?

Void gives you +10% strength bonus and a +6.4 bonus (since gear bonus is added to 64 and void multiplies the lot by 1.1). Since you can have 12+4+3+2 strength bonus in Bandos/Neitiznot/barrows gloves, you need 10*(21-6.4) = 146 total strength bonus in void for the void setup to have a higher max hit. However since you can only have +12 attack bonus with that setup, you only need 56 attack bonus in void to have higher accuracy, which is always.

You need to value your time extremely low to not use Taverly + cannon or CT + titan even with bots - it's 3k per ash, and 100 kph?

I got 30-35k/hr at 80/81, so you could get 35-40k at 91? Penance horn is worth using there.

It's not bad considering it requires 50 ranged - 322 max on task, versus 507 for rune bolts. Correcting for speed that's 536 vs 507. The crossbow is more accurate, and allows you to use a shield, but the shortbow has the speed advantage in Kuradal's. Handcannon, Karil's crossbow, obsidian rings, rune knives/darts etc. are likely better than msb in various scenarios though.

That's great gear for the Ancient Cavern, in the Chaos tunnels you may wish to have more defence. It's hard to tank 8 waterfiends even in Karil's (unless you flash deflect range as well).

Yay 83 mining and 90 crafting, hope to get 90 slayer, 94 ranged, perhaps also 88 woodcutting and/or 83 hunter tomorrow, depending on how much I care to hunt for strange rocks.

Congratulations :).

Using these gp/xp figures, and using 60% crimson, 20% blue, 10% green and 10% gold (by xp not number of charms), making barker toads, unicorns, yaks and geyser titans, summoning is 5.2 gp/xp. Only a very high percentage of green charms can change this really, all other pouches are cheaper than that, including swamp titans and rock lobsters, as well as lava and elemental titans and terrorbirds. Fruit bats are over 5.2 gp/xp but still cheaper than unicorns, so I think you'll average ~5 gp/xp for at least 12m of the 13m xp you need. Geyser titans, which used to be 10 gp/xp and up, have gone down to 6 gp/xp which is nice. By the way if you need charms - last kalphites task got me 22 blue charms in as many minutes, and 7 crimsons. That's as good or better than black demons.

burstinglobs has moved all door partners to the same world, 67? Or something.

Yes, I believe so. Mousekeys can help too.

I beg to differ. Before I lost members, I would always use a torso on all my slayer tasks. Is it really worth paying 20m for +1 prayer bonus and some extra defense (that largely goes to waste since bunyip outheals most slayer monsters and SS makes up for the ones it doesn't)? It's not worth playing BA in the first place, once you got a torso you better damn well use it or you'll have wasted even more time.

Bandos/Str 6 108 120 1.0000 1.0000 508 496 43.64% 108.46 27.11 Bandos/Stab 6 124 105 1.0000 1.0000 508 456 47.70% 109.00 27.25 Bandos/max atk+str 6 118 113 1.0000 1.0000 508 477 46.18% 110.37 27.59 Bandos/Str/Vesta 5 156 167 1.0000 1.0000 508 622 55.22% 172.00 34.40 Bandos/Stab/Vesta 5 172 152 1.0000 1.0000 508 582 58.25% 169.81 33.96 Bandos/max atk+str/Vesta 5 149 142 1.1000 1.0000 508 555 57.95% 161.10 32.22 Void/Str 6 96 99 1.1000 1.1000 508 484 44.66% 108.30 27.07 Void/Stab 6 107 87 1.1000 1.1000 508 448 47.73% 107.15 26.79 Void/max atk+str 6 101 95 1.1000 1.1000 508 471 46.05% 108.69 27.17 Void/Str/Vesta 5 144 146 1.1000 1.1000 508 622 56.94% 177.36 35.47 Void/Stab/Vesta 5 155 134 1.1000 1.1000 508 587 59.10% 173.76 34.75 Void/max atk+str/Vesta 5 149 142 1.1000 1.1000 508 610 57.95% 177.03 35.41 That's attack speed, attack bonus, strength bonus, void bonus, target defence roll, max hit, accuracy, average damage per hit and dps. Grimy's calculator needs an output function badly :P. Conclusion: with zspear, max total attack + str in Bandos is best. With Vesta's spear, max strength bonus in void is best.

Ranging isn't the fastest, that is certain. Melee + cannon is, but you won't profit even if you bank the ashes.

Moved to the Graveyard advice section. I'd say either 60 attack 1 defence pure with high strength, ranged, mage, or the same but questing for 45 defence, which allows you to do quests for turmoil, berserker helmet, handcannon etc.. This is a good overview of what you need to do. You can also get 80 attack for a chaotic weapon, which means you'll be dpsing more with melee than with magic, as you would at 60 attack, and you'll of course be higher combat overall.

If you got the charms, use them ASAP. Unicorn > Armadyl armour for Kree, yak > most gear for, well, any dragon moneymaker and a ton of bosses.

You're getting a torso for pking? Since it's not useful anywhere else.

You mean it will still be mine?

Considering the accuracy you already have on abberant spectres I'm inclined to say the fury is still superior, +8 damage isn't huge of course but still over a percent.

Moved to the Graveyard :). Hope you get a good answer here.

The moment they spike and people get aware of it, there will be a huge dump & crash. I think most of the price rise isn't people wanting whips to use, but to merchant them. So ideally you'd sell them when the spike's still happening, before the top. If there will be one, that is. It could be that the small demand increase from the update actually happening may be entirely drowned out.

Very simply put one green dragon kill is worth ~5k for a bone and a hide? Which means that if you take a dds, walk into the wilderness, spec out one dragon, take the bone+hide, die, respawn&bank at Soul Wars, and then walk back, you'll make more money than cutting yew or magic logs or picking flax.

?? You can join a guest chat. Besides, shouldn't your buddies hang out in friends chats? That's why they are called friend chats, right?

^I agree with above method to train prayer, though if your main moneymaker is bossing then overload will benefit you as much for a lower cost. If there's more farming than bossing in there I guess they are much the same.

Guys, can we get back on topic please? If you want to know what people do to keep them motivated or whatever, use Questionnaires and put the link in your signature ;).