bedman

It's xp. Jagex is misinforming us again. They last for around 500k bonus xp (1m total). Jagex defends by saying "it lasts for 10h of fighting for normal players". Normal noobs, I'd say -.- I don't really mind though, cause otherwise it would be too overpowered, i'd just like Jagex to be bit more informative about it, and not post false statements.

Divine is between yellow and green. Yellow is around 800-900m? I've seen somebody trying to sell elysian for 250m only.

Yeah Jagex gave SUOMI a big advantage over everyone re-introducing free trade. Everybody can ask for donations. Don't see any advantage over other top players. SUOMI's problem is money-shortage for the buyables. Most other top skillers don't seem to have that problem, so SUOMI would profit more from free trade and bigger donations than others who have already merched a fortune.

Actually it's much easier now. Just stand at one of the spawns, get a "click" in (clicking on it is enough) and you'll get the drop. Beats finding the wolf yourself at all the different spawns and having to kill it alone.

I would sell them now. Chances are they've already crashed though. When free trade comes out, 2 things will happen: 1) deflation will kick in, because statuettes, a huge source of money in the game, will be gone. 2) items will no longer get lost upon death in pvp worlds, but transferred to the winner of the fight. These 2 things will both make barrows item cheaper (less will dissapear, and there will be less money in general). Better use the positive vibe (if it's still going) and sell your armour now.

assistclan

This is quite interesting. It's the first time I remember them posting number figures like that. Now, if anybody kept track how many items were dropped (I guess a rough estimatie should be possible if you visit Nex/w2/high lvl clans/... often), we can start guessing drop rates.

I'm thinking about it right now (the calculations) EDIT: seems you were right, sorry. But I still think that inventory plays a role too. I think an optimal "divine inventory" vs. an optimal "ely inventory" is more difference than 2 brews. Right now, you just say that for 12.5% of the damage, you save 300something LP for div vs. ely, but I'm not sure if that really translates to an invo like you stated it. But then again, I might be wrong again :-) EDIT: gotcha I think. Let's say you get hit 500 (no reduction). With divine, that will be 350 and with ely it will be 412.5. That's 62.5 damage difference for the cost of 7.5 pray pots. You said, okay 62.5/500 is 12.5%, so you can only apply it on 12.5% of your brews. Now, I think you shouldn't do 62.5/500, but 62.5/350 or 412.5, cause that will be the actualy damage you take, and that will be the actual brews you drink. Now things will get complicated, and I don't really know how to continue, but this is what I mean with "it's more complicated". Might be wrong again though (grr, i'm gonna leave this, got to study)

Some valid points, but you've got to understand that the pro's only want the best of the best. That's why they use karil over dhide, DFS over obby shield etc... Every bit counts when you're a pro :D I'm also starting to think your calculations are wrong (the part where you say you can only apply it on 12.5 percent of your brews). I think it's more complicated than just substracting the percentages.

Trolling is a art. Free trade=/=removing statuettes. Of course removing the statuettes would slow down the current inflation, which is why I didn't talk about them. Coincidently, free trade and the removal of statuettes will happen at the same time (most probably)... Anyway, I think people should stop perceiving naive posts by new users as trolling, and seeing it as a reason to start spamming/flaming/trolling. I'm pretty sure this guy didn't mean to start a trolltopic. It's true that these topics often end up in flaming/spam, but that is not the fault of the topic creator in my opinion, but the fault of the i've-been-on-the-forum-longer-than-you-so-I-can-spam-and-flame-topics-and-it-will-be-so-funny-and-cool - guys. Sadly, this topic hasn't really got much discussion value that hasn't been discussed yet in other topics. EDIT: there we go, while writing this, the bait (trolling is a art) the troll has thrown has worked and he caught a fish. Now he can happily write a trollisch reply and spamming chaos will ensure. Great :rolleyes:

The Alot. Do I need to explain to you that "alot" is not a word in english? It's "A lot". And most people(read everyone) know about the current inflation. I don't see how free trade would do anything to counter it, as it's just more money moving around. Perhaps being able to change prices more dynamically will shift this one way or the other a bit, but there's not much to say. The most interesting topic of it is rares, and there's already a thread on it. Now you are the troll, jackass. Free trade also means no pvp statuettes, which were the reason for the inflation of the past 1-2 years. "I'm seriously starting to think you are poorly attempting to troll" :rolleyes:

Oooh, the lurker made an account :-)

The times right now are pretty insecure, with free trade lurking around the corner. Lots of money can be made, but lots can be lost too. I'm personally playing it safe, and keeping most of my stuf fin cash, because of the deflation that is bound to kick in. I might miss out on some deals, but I'm pretty sure that in the long run, I will be fine. Now, onto the new armour, any of you pro nexers have an idea about the drop rate yet? Apperantly a good six man team should be able to get 0.50 kills per hour per person minimum. So if we assume a drop rate of 1/100 (for any item), it takes 200 hours to get a pieces. That's quite a huge amount. With these assumptions, every piece should be at least 400m (2m/h figure, but if you use 3 or 4m, the number becomes 600-800m). If we assume a drop rate of 1/50, every piece should be at least 200m. (400m at 4m/h) Thoughts?

Thanks for the interesting points Soma. Can't wait to try out Nex properly after the exams (three more weeks...)

So masses results in 3 minute kills now. Not bad

It takes an hour or two to get started, but once you got that, it's pretty easy, and it's good hunt xp. I started at 80 hunter though, so I just unlocked all clothes, and then did Draconics for xp, and got seeds on the way. You've got to see it as a whole: hunt xp + juju pots. Otherwise it is indeed not that much worth the time (well, it still might be, but less).

at first, it might go up a bit, cause of the pvp hype, but in the end, it will go down because rune sets will be recovered by the enemy, and not destoryed and replaced by statuetetes.

A lvl 91 with torva? That's disgusting :(

Nice one. I personally like Nechs, cause it's a nice opportunity to let out my steel titan. He loves owning nechs, you see :-). I think I get around 40k xp per hour there (need to confirm) so it's not too bad either, and you can do a quick bork visit (I'm a bit into summoning ranks). I also do blues for the easy profit, but I find them a bit stressful with all the drops (I do them in 4 trips mostly, since its 30 sec banking or so). Also do gargoyles, since they're pretty relaxing, and I find kuradal dungeon too good to give up. Besides that, I'm mostly doing the same, and I'll be glad to use my whip on more tasks now, ty for that :-)

I would make a mixture of spec restores, super antifires (both in quantities that you know you will use. I would do 2k spec restores and 1k super antifire), and extreme str/att/def. As long as you use your extreme pots, they are pretty cheap, and you will certainly not make more than you will use for only lvl 87.

81 AND a couple of 77 for a casual farmer, I find that hard to believe... My personal record is 66 herbs. Most profit was 64 with 2 seeds back iirc. Most in one patch was 22. (pre juju 19). Most non doubles in a row like 9 (don't really count this, but I got frustrated this one patch where I didn't get a single double). I think I've around 100 farm runs since juju (so 500 seeds).

So why is this "wicked" guy not banned?

Okay you won. Kinda liked the way you stated it though "I think ..."

They use a unicorn from the start, or this is midway a trip?

If only the grinding of the bones didn't take so long, I'd say they were always worth it. However, it takes like 7 hours to grind 1k bones, and that is totally not worth it for me. Ive got around 500 super prayers (4) and I'm really really sparesome wth them.