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The pictures krampell posted clearly obtain celeste(99 mage armor boss) and prime(99 melee boss) in them, both similar to saggitare, who we already have. I think we are going to get a total of 7 demons, as the lores state, one for each different set of floors plus one for floor 60 or a bonus floor, the behemoths are also bound to appear on every set of floors, other than that, those are some nice new bosses, most seemingly better than the ones we have right now.

That's because it's a bit of an exaggeration. Assuming all five patches survive and yield seven herbs each time, you get 8875 xp per run. Now, if we further assume that your herbs grow exactly in 75 minutes, and you arrive at precisely 75 minute intervals at each one and plant your next seed instantaneously, it would require 11.2 herbs runs per day over a period 14 hours to get said 100k xp. Maybe some people can do that, but I wouldn't throw that figure around as what you get each day. EDIT: This is all with Torstol A herb run takes 5 minutes(estimated max). If you are awake for 14 hours a day and are organized enough it's easily possible, infact, you don't even have to play more than an hour of runescape a day to achieve the figure. You just have to be at a computer every 75-90 minutes. ;) At this day and age, not necessarily a computer as such, most public places have wifi nowadays.

Gilded altar is equally afk as an average for the same amount of time, and much, much more afk if you factor in only training for 1/15 of the time. You are actually paying the game to waste your time, but it's not really my business, and saying that you don't know what efficiency is effectively true as to what you are doing with your time.

That's because it's a bit of an exaggeration. Assuming all five patches survive and yield seven herbs each time, you get 8875 xp per run. Now, if we further assume that your herbs grow exactly in 75 minutes, and you arrive at precisely 75 minute intervals at each one and plant your next seed instantaneously, it would require 11.2 herbs runs per day over a period 14 hours to get said 100k xp. Maybe some people can do that, but I wouldn't throw that figure around as what you get each day. EDIT: This is all with Torstol A herb run takes 5 minutes(estimated max). If you are awake for 14 hours a day and are organized enough it's easily possible, infact, you don't even have to play more than an hour of runescape a day to achieve the figure.

Frost Dragon bones are the least efficient bones. Anyways, like the above said use a BoB. Make the left click option "Take BoB" At the current prices, if you can make 3,2m an hour(which is possible with dk-s, td-s, bandos solo and frost dragons) frost dragon bones are more efficient than dragon bones, not even considering the xp you lose. So yeah, if you don't value your time at all, frost dragon bones are the least efficient of them, but if you do, they are the most efficient. When grinding bones(as the op is doing) he would be saving a massive amount of time by using better bones, but he probably has no idea what efficiency is. Ya he might just be playing Runescape for fun..... Are you kidding? Ectoing is the least amusing activity in runescape and anyone who realistically enjoys it over not doing it(gilded altar is 1500% faster) is lying. Your argument would hold true for most borderline efficiency arguments, but this guy is essentially killing edgeville men at maxed melee.

Any calculations or information to prove that it was actually worth it? sure, it's a nice drop and great spot of luck, but if you factor in the lost xp and money due to wasting your time running around the whole of runescape, was it really worth it? I doubt it was worth it in terms of efficiency, but likely in terms of fun and achievement. The fact that you are not guaranteed a 3rd age item if you do 10k clues is why they are just not worth doing.

Certainly rapier if you are looking to train- you have a big load of training to do and it would save you a big load of time. Certainly cls if you don't at all plan to train, but MH things higher than DK-s, in which case CLS will be up to 10% better, but as you gain levels, the difference will diminish quite quickly.

The chance of death with super compost is roughly 10% and even if it may seem higher at times, it always averages out in the end. As you are doing toadflaxes, deaths shouldn't be a major concern to you, but if you move up to something more dear it'd be smart to get yourself the scroll of live to compensate for the deaths(it makes back around 9,4% of the seeds for torstol). Also, as you are getting into the higher farming levels i would strongly suggest doing higher level herbs to finish off those last levels, daily torstols make for around 100k farming xp a day, 3m a month.

Callme is clearly clueless about the subject: 1. Using that much caps generally means you are trolling. 2. You need to hit 310+ for a prayer switch. 3. Hitting one lower and one higher hit on TD-s is much more useful than hitting one, higher hit, rapier DPS is just close to not getting the prayer down in one hit and thus is more useful, since the DPS is higher anyway.(this has been explained more thoroughly before) 4. CLS is the clear favorite of the chaotic weapons for NOTHING. Nothing at all, it might be better, but it's never the hands down favorite of the three, this is clearly not the case for rapier and usually the case for maul.

As you kill things 15% faster, gain 15% more xp and 15% more money an hour, for 20-30 hours, you must value your time as being worthless. For pure money, chaotic weapons are worth using if you can get 600k an hour, not even considering the extra xp, and you do have the option of recharging with tokens/money.

I just can't understand how ''TT specific item every time'' can be so misunderstood. It's unlikely the average prize of clues will get significantly higher, you are just have a 100% chance of receiving something only available from TT's, and considering there will be a whole load of new rewards, there is significant chance of receiving low value items.

Just because something "works" doesn't mean that it's right. If you want to pick your nose you can probably use the big toe on your left foot to do it, but that doesn't mean that it's the optimal solution If you lent out something, and the other person is done with it, you should get it back. That's just obvious. Sure, you can construct an argument whereby it isn't absolutely necessary that it works that way, but it's just silly to put down someone who actually wants the system to work properly. Lend until logout/lend every 1-24 hours is a possibility, so if they are lazy and lend for the maximum amount of time not even considering they might not need it that long is their problem. If you aren't flexible with the system then the system isn't flexible with you. The nose picking analogy was the worst i've ever read on these boards, i have no idea how you came up with that....

Frost Dragon bones are the least efficient bones. Anyways, like the above said use a BoB. Make the left click option "Take BoB" At the current prices, if you can make 3,2m an hour(which is possible with dk-s, td-s, bandos solo and frost dragons) frost dragon bones are more efficient than dragon bones, not even considering the xp you lose. So yeah, if you don't value your time at all, frost dragon bones are the least efficient of them, but if you do, they are the most efficient. When grinding bones(as the op is doing) he would be saving a massive amount of time by using better bones, but he probably has no idea what efficiency is.

This thread is not about the promise of monthly updates, as they have already released 2 updates this week, but the fact that they wrote a ~10 line giddy story on their page that turned out not to be true. Sure, this is not a big deal for most people, but at the same time, there are some people who were promised this update within the next 3 days and they are not going to get what they were promised, and some of them might not at all get to try out the update as they are losing members in the coming days(as school starts in some countries etc). So, no, this is not a major deal in terms of gameplay, but on the otherhand, this is a huge deal for jagex credibility, decency and user-friendliness. It'd be nice if anyone actually went to a national consumer protection agency and reported jagex for false advertising, which this undoubtedly is.

I think you guys seriously underestimate jagex'es ability to fix something that isn't broken to make it much worse. I think the intelligent approach that we have now is completely fine and good enough to satisfy 99% of people- if you want to be lazy and lend for a timeframe that you aren't actually prepared to lend then it's your choice, this could have easily been a nonproplem if you were more knowledgeable and your brother could have estimated how long he needed the item(as i doubt he planned a full day of mining), and if your ignorance coupled with your/your brothers misconception of ability has put you to limbo, atleast you have learned a valuable lesson of how to do things the right way.

Smelting+superheating gold ores seems to be the most cost efficient method right now, getting up to 130k smithing xp an hour. If you want more afk, but slower xp, addy bolts should still be goon enough, or even steel plates(the oldschool way). You should check out some efficiency spreadsheets to find the best method for you.

It wasn't about being smart and not releasing an update, rather being stupid, not considering fully what the update would do, realizing this too late and not being able to deliver the update, and they had atleast one month to figure this out.

I hope you ever slay these drags and find out how funny your post actually is. Other than that, he is spot on with the equipment other than the ardy cape, but that is just preference. I don't bring any special weapons on my trips, but that's just because i can't be bothered to spec while i'm busy doing a load of other things, but they will get you 4-8 more kills an hour possibly(with a few spec restores). Other than that, dfs is for newbs, halos are for newbs, veracs is for newbs etc etc, prayer points don't cost 10k each as you make them up to be. And well, he did say he brings a yak full of monks, but i evidently you didn't manage to catch that, but really, no food is completely fine if you are any good at all. Assuming you get 10 less kills an hour(which is very realistic, as you lose claws, 7 str and 19 stab) you make 200k less an hour, enough for 80 doses of prayer, many more than you'll actually use in that hour.

So if they get a year of updates done and don't release them, that's ok with you? That really makes no sense. And as i said, i have no problem with anything that they have said and is true, but when they essentially promise an update and don't deliver, expect to be flamed. It is a worldwide expectation that deadlines have to be met, and usually severely looked upon if they are not. I have 0% care about the graphics update- i wasn't promised that so the fact that it will be released next monday or next year is the least of what i would worry about. I just don't understand all this forgiveness for jagex- they aren't a baby who wouldn't be able to take care of themselves- if they take our money, they better be responsible for their mistakes and shortcomings, and deal with the complaints accordingly. I know that this is the exact reasoning they removed the BTS, but if they can't meet deadlines or not guarantee updates, they shouldn't have brought it back. This was a mistake on jagex'es part for which they should apologize, not give reasons for why they failed. This has already been well documented of how they are unable to admit to their mistakes.

Well then, they should just add that text to every BTS they release. Had they done that, i wouldn't have had any problem with the current situation, but as they didn't, complaining about getting treated the way they are treated now is something they brought on themselves. As for being human, if you promise something and can't get it done in 30 days, you really suck. Making promises you can't keep is human, but indecent.

If i pay for something and am promised(essentially what the bts is) an update, can i not express my disappointment/anger? There are genuine reasons for this. If people, or even companies fail to deliver, being criticized for it is the lest they deserve to be. Some people paid only for this month, and essentially, didn't get the product that they though they would- in most countries, false advertising for products is punishable. They don't have to release a bts, but if they do, then atleast be sure they can deliver. For your information(and you are uninformed) the update to be released wasn't only about elite clues, and anyone who has ever done a clue scroll is affected by this.

It's in multy-combat high wildy, so you might get teamed by a large amount of revenants. Also, the place is stretched out with few spawns so it would be very louzy xp. also for revenant routes(frop tipit):

Yep, it's reasonable to start gnome at 82 and barb at 87, the fail-rate at these courses are low and you don't need too many pies for those levels. Also, it's always useful to use a penace horn for agility.

This is exactly what is wrong with releasing a BTS about the coming month-if they can't deliver on the expected time(and it is reasonable to expect the update on the last monday/tuesday of the month) they are going to have to explain themselves and expect to be flamed/trolled. Edit: Arrgh...why even bother writing up the bts if they can't fulfill it- excuses and failures like this are for small, inexperienced companies, which jagex seems to play out to be with this and the recent climbing boots update. And well, TT's was the update i was most looking forward to this month, and the fact that i will be going on vocation on monday coupled with the fact i might not even be a member at the time makes this alot worse for me.

Thank you....thats just [bleep]ing stupid if they return it, it should be returned :wall: I don't think it's stupid, the lending system is flexible enough to allow the two of you work out the best scenario for the both of you(until logout and x amount of hours up to 24), lending for 24 hours is just lazy and being punished for it isn't anything unusual.