TheAncient

I think hitsplats and damage upgrade are gonna come in the same update

Rapier>Cbow>Maul>Rigour>Staff>CLS>CKS>FKS>EEKS>Augury

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DAT MOUSTACHED GRIMY Chaotic #6

ok, possible. i don't have much personal experience w/ bandos so i might have to test it out later.

I can assure you this is false. Citation: go tank Bandos in full arma and a spectral and see how well you do tanking his ranged attacks. I was just there in a team tonight with void and took some good knocks while I was soul splitting, and void has pretty excellent magic defense. I was certainly taking a lot more damage from the ranged attacks than our full Bandos tank, who by your logic should have been getting ripped apart. On topic, I say crossbow. Nothing else is a significant improvement over existing gear- the staff is stupid expensive to use, and the shields are wannabe DFS and spirit shields. should test this. according to rswiki:

anyway get the crossbow. FKS/CKS are impractical for pvm cause theyre easily lost and have high degrade cost crossbow is a lot more accurate than its rune counterpart. at best, it's up to 33% more accurate (realistically a bit less though)

w117 is an unsalvageable derp world w148 people are not terrible since they actually pay some attention. they just aren't that good - you really have to push them if you're keying

if you can't afford a BSS you shouldn't even consider using chaotic weaponry. 1 chaotic weapon for ~10 hrs = 2M you DON't get back 1 BSS for forever = 3M you can always get back

depends on your style and whether or not supreme is an issue for you. mlb(s) is good if you use a method that cannot reliably get prime within crossbow range. rcb/ccb is good in general for balance of good dps and moderate range. karil's crossbow has highest dps but low range.

spectral might be better than cks for bandos since his ranged attack's accuracy is based on your magic defense, not your ranged defense. citation: rswiki highly disagree. ccbow > staff for (safe) pvp and most pvm. staff is BAD for rex because of lack of rune-saving ability, additional risk (you always risk it), higher degrade cost.

Yes, the latter is exactly what I'm getting at. real DPS is hard to accurately measure perfectly due to pauses, eating, and the like. especially in the case of dungeoneering, the finer elements of weapon choice become more of a matter of small preferences rather than pure theoretical DPS. this is in contrast to pvm combat outside of DG where you mostly stand still, use primarily the same kind of attack, eat at a regular pace, and have lower chance of death. Quickswitching is a lot harder than it seems. I have a gaming mouse that's set so that my middle button goes to my equipment interface, so thankfully quickswitching isn't too hard to me. Still - if I forget that I need to quickswitch before combat starts, then effectively I can't quickswitch at all (or it becomes highly impractical to). That's why pspear is a good alternative to pbaxe if you have a hex bunt don't have prim2h

Yeah, i'd definitely agree, especially in the short run in the long run when more people get good at dungeoneering and when more people have excess tokens, we might see more of what i outlined

So do you think there is a deflation in the near future? I would assume so from your post prior. if i were to predict based on how the economy has been behaving, yes. but that prediction is pretty useless since i have no substantive background in economics, nor do i claim to be able to predict any changes in actual gameplay that would cause inflation. if i were to guess, the main reason behind this deflation is most likely the fact that more people have access to good levels/gear now. average killrate for monsters has increased significantly - thereby increasing the supply of almost everything. also, wrt your point on degrade costs: the more pro players (i.e. those who both DG a lot and will use their chaotic weapons often) have the option of paying with tokens. i actually do this because i dungeoneer for fun, i already have all the chaotics i want, and the ~20K tokens i get an hour is nice cause i don't have to dish out 1.8M every time i pay for your chaotic.

look at prices over the past few months. i don't see a problem of inflation. in fact, most items are relatively stagnant in price.

not necessarily, especially when you take cost into account: pbaxe>prim2h if you use surgebox and don't like extra clicking pbaxe>prim2h if you like to use tank ring and key pspear > pbaxe if you have a hex bind and like to use desperado prapier ?> pbaxe in certain scenarios i think an interesting question to look at would be if platebody/leatherbody binds were better for non-rushing groups that always stay together. not saying that i advocate non-rushing, as i think it's silly - i'm just curious if hood is 100% the best defensive bind. Most of those are wrong, from a pure DPS standpoint. 2h is still better then pspear, just quickswitch between desp and serker. PBax->tank<2h unless keying. prapier>pbax in some situations, but bax is still a better bind. corrections/unstated assumptions stated:

tribriding fails in dangerous pvp since range is too weak try mage/melee hybriding. requires most skill (yes even more than tribrid) and is the most powerful for dangerous pvp

not necessarily, especially when you take cost into account: pbaxe>prim2h if you use surgebox and don't like extra clicking pbaxe>prim2h if you like to use tank ring and key pspear > pbaxe if you have a hex bind and like to use desperado prapier ?> pbaxe in certain scenarios i think an interesting question to look at would be if platebody/leatherbody binds were better for non-rushing groups that always stay together. not saying that i advocate non-rushing, as i think it's silly - i'm just curious if hood is 100% the best defensive bind.

well, yeah. lol. i'm saying that i doubt the difference it's noticeable; the real increase in accuracy is probably less than 5%. the 5% inc was a maximum limit.

Fix'd Oh, and how does Dragon defender affect things? Does is make Rapier superior to Chaotic Longsword now? Rapier was always better then cls when wearing a rune defender I'm pretty sure, so dragon defender just widens that gap. CLS is still only good for a couple very high defense situations in which you have to wear a shield rather than a defender. while this is more or less true, cls dps can indeed be higher in important scenarios (safe pvp melee) even with dragon defender.

The increase in accuracy is at most like 5%. it should not be that noticable.

not really: if you have sub 50 dg, a weapon is more useful than hood. if you find a hexhunter and are sub 100 dg, you should seriously consider unbinding hood (or melee wep) and binding the hex if you ever plan to get above 100 dg and have access to 3 binds if you go to w117, use non-rush methods, and no one else on the team has hood it *may* be better to bind plate. if you don't get a hood drop (the hood's rarity should be considered too)

lol at this thread derailing OT: speculations on ely's stable price?

hood is already pretty hard to use well

Time to play call of duty and then come back when the place isnt so crowded