You can consider the time spent in creatin the ball as lost money; the time could have been used to earn money. That way it is not entirely free, also the material could have been sold, or the ball itself. But if I keep going on about details like this, nothing of course is free. Exactly, but it's a good point. It's the reason for the phase: "nothing is free," which can be easily argued. Sorry didn't these replies till now :P Do you have a picture of the ball you created? I am genuinly interested in seeing what it looked like and how it was made. [i was also going to ask how did you get the leather or material for this ball? Did you skin your own cow to make it? (but Oy got to that point before me :wink: )] The point I was trying to make when I first questioned you about it was that it isn't free as in the sense that love, friendship, feelings or our senses are free. (and therefore isn't false) Those are what I think of when somone says the best things in life are free.