Do you feel that Jagex is letting us down?

[sohkmj1]

If you had checked out the runescape official forums rants recently, you would have found that high levels hate Jagex for not giving high level updates. Do you actually feel that way?

[Stilev]

yeah, jagex's focus lately has been towards the middle level moron that cant walk strait let alone understand a complex quest. then when one comes along he blames jagex for making a quest that says "for high lvls only" and he thinks he is one -.- and he clearly isn't

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on a personal note im annonyed that there haven't been any high lvl updates but im happy with the middle to low lvl ones. but its "alot" more fun when we get quests like MEP2 and RFD which took me a little bit of brain power

[dutchdreams]

I always take the official forums with a grain of salt, especially the rants. A lot of times these rants will be about lacking high level content and the player quitting because of it. Then, if you keep track of their highscores, you notice a steady increase in their total xp over the course of a week >.> A bit hypocritical.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I find that attitude ('I want high level content NOW, else I quit') wrong in one way, yet understandable in another. Runescape is a completely open-ended game. Whatever your level is, whatever your path is, there is *always* something to do. It's entertainment the player can create for himself. Jagex provides the means for it, it's the player's discretion how to use it. My point would be, don't depend on Jagex to make fun for you, but rely on yourself to have fun.

 

 

 

If you find yourself bored in the game, because the activities don't appeal to you anymore (fishing/woodcutting/DK'ing/PK'ing/[insert activity]) then it's time to have a look at yourself. Rather than demanding Jagex for stuff that will keep you interested, ask yourself why at a certain age you stopped playing with Lego or dolls.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex has to walk a thin line. For example, when they release the 'mother of all quests' today, all quests thereafter will be measured and compared to this particular quest. A lot of content added afterwards, will pale in comparison. As a result, it will add to the growing feeling that Jagex doesn't care for high-levels.

 

 

 

There is also a threshold on items: bigger, better, more expensive, more damage on weapons, more defense on armor. There are weapons around that can already split other players in half. What more do people expect ? To be able to one hit a 99 HP-player ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now what I find understandable in the attitude of wanting high-level content. People have invested time and effort into bettering their character. It's human nature to expect rewards for your effort (why else do it ?): I doubt anyone would go to university to settle for a job as a garbagetruck-driver. After spending that effort, it's nice to see it rewarded with items/content that's only available to you. Things that make you stand out for having done that effort.

 

 

 

These players have been loyal to the game for years and feel left in the cold by the recent updates geared towards 'lower levels'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is one thing Jagex can never change though and that's mankind's search for new kicks. Translated to Runescape: one can only kill the KBD, KQ or DK so many times before it becomes repetitious/boring. One can only do a quest once. One can only mine so many runite or get a certain number of whip drops/barrow items before it becomes 'business as usual'. One can only merchant so many goods, before the kick of getting a good deal ebbs away.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure a lot of high-level players will recognise a certain desire every now and then, to be completely oblivious again and explore Runescape as if it were their first day. When everything was new and every option was still available to you. The been-there, done-that- mentality that is within each of us, will eventually get to all of us. Unless you are the number one player and are going for 1 bill total xp ;). This desire often results in players creating a 'noob'-character or a pure. Or it results to a yearning to the good ol' days, when everything and everyone was better/nicer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Congratulations, you made it to the end of my essay :P My personal opinion is that I'm still very eager with all the stuff that's available to any level. Then again, I'm going for a total level of 2200: only 99 levels to go ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dutch, 2101 total level, 200 mill xp, 126 combat.

[sycosis5]

jagex gives TOO MUCH to high players never mind not enough

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on members you have

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fire cape

 

 

 

abysal whp

 

 

 

abbysal shield

 

 

 

and lots LOTS more

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets count what f2p members get

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a few easy quests

[everfreefire]

jagex gives TOO MUCH to high players never mind not enough

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on members you have

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fire cape

 

 

 

abysal whp

 

 

 

abbysal shield

 

 

 

and lots LOTS more

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets count what f2p members get

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a few easy quests

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've seen people lower leveled than me running around with most of those, and I'm not even that high of a level...Though I've never heard of an abyssal shield before...

[sycosis5]

lower levels get nothing

[iwatake]

Don't even view the rants forum on official runescape forums. It's a heapof flames and trash. (unless you want to point and laugh at most of them :lol: )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And no, I don't think Jagex is letting us down, not quite yet. But it is heading in that direction in my opinion.

[Wachtwoord]

lower levels get nothing

 

 

 

You're the perfect illustration of my point. People always complain and never agree with/like something. Your obviously a low level and you say you get nothing, so do (very) high levels and middle players who think their high levels, but aren't.

 

 

 

I'd suggest anyone to just enjoy the game as it is; I think when you need updates to keep enjoying this game, it's time to move on.

[BloodAngel]

I think JagEx need to introduce something that is for the really high levels, something that pures can't do. I mean yesterday I saw a level 82 with a fire cape, which is supposed to be the ultimate achievement in runescape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Bloodangel

[jwrm22]

 

jagex gives TOO MUCH to high players never mind not enough

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on members you have

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fire cape

 

 

 

abysal whp

 

 

 

abbysal shield

 

 

 

and lots LOTS more

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets count what f2p members get

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a few easy quests

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've seen people lower leveled than me running around with most of those, and I'm not even that high of a level...Though I've never heard of an abyssal shield before...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a lvl 60 can get fire cape... a lvl 60 can wield abby whip...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and all "high lvl" quests... arnt that high lvl it was easy to beat barrelchest even without magic! :evil: i want a hard monster like the monkeymadness demon without prayer and without gnomes and without cannon / safespot boss! something like kbd or chaos elemental that you have to solo!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and equipment lvl 80+

[Artificial_Doom_Flavor]

on members you have fire cape

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a vid of a level 53 getting that cape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I propose that stats extend well beyond 99, but that certain substantial methods of training be made available to those who reach that level such that going even higher will not be absolutely maddening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even zezima would probably have a heart attack if it was suddenly announced that all stat maxima were now 150.

[Ginger_Warrior]

Before I go on, can I correct the author's head post. The high levels don't hate Jagex, we actually have a lot of respect for them for making this game. We just feel they are misguided, and we're making a stand. I speak as a person, who on several occasions, has ranted on the official forums with great support by high levels, so I think I do speak for the majority of them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Having said that, I think that Jagex hasn't let us down. Saying they've let us down would near enough imply that we think they don't care about us at all. But there's one problem with this - it isn't true. Jagex do try to release updates to keep us higher levels happy. Most of these are actually found in the "In other news..." sections at the bottom of major update pages on the front page of the RS site. The trouble is, they're not the updates we really want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think that Jagex has let me down. I just think that they do try, but near enough all the time I just don't like what they're doing. For example, they thought the Contact! quest would be an update we'd like. How wrong could they have been... there was still no challenge.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problem regarding "high-levels" is that we feel that all the updates go pretty much to younger players, in Jagex's hellbent campaign to attract young, new gamers to RS. We don't like this, because we feel that far from making RS better with the turnover they'll bring in, they'll drag RS into a mind-numbing no-action game with a negative community.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We've seen that they primarily try to aim updates at young players, yet they give high levels an update once every now and then to keep them shut up. But it's not working. niether side is fully happy with Jagex, and that kind of strategy will penultimately fail. Jagex needs to make its mind up, regarding whether it is a game for teens/adults (in which case, they need to make the game more combat-based, make the puzzles much harder, and get rid of this "molly cuddle" approach to new players), or whether it is a game for young players (in which case, stay near enough to Status Quo, but remove the 13+ age limit, and make the game much more safer for younger people who know nothing better. Places such as the Wilderness will therefore have to go).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The decision is Jagex's, of course, but I personally feel aiming the game at younger players will slowly drag the game into the ground. Therefore, aiming it at teens/adults is a much more right-minded decision.

[slimysteve]

No.

[mememe513]

Those high levels have a point, what if you have like 90 firemaking, there's no "higher chance of not failing to burn the log and cook your finger" or new logs/equipment.

 

 

 

Or say 80 prayer, highest prayer is lvl 52, no additional effects when attacking a player.

[curly55555]

No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh how very constructive. The prayer idea would work very well though, as once you reach level 52, there isn't really any point carrying on training it. -.-

[Dragon_lord]

A good indicator that Jagex isn't paying enough attention to players anymore are the automated letters. They're really loosing touch with their players, both F2P and P2P.

[mikeb912]

Those high levels have a point, what if you have like 90 firemaking, there's no "higher chance of not failing to burn the log and cook your finger" or new logs/equipment.

 

 

 

Or say 80 prayer, highest prayer is lvl 52, no additional effects when attacking a player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want to use protection prayers for any length of time then you need to train your prayer up higher than 52. That's what high level prayer is good for.

[SwreeTak]

I don't think high level people in F2P have so much to do, with to few high level monsters to fight and so on.

 

 

 

But the P2P high level people have alot of stuff, so they should not beg for more.

[King_Peter18]

jagex gives TOO MUCH to high players never mind not enough

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on members you have

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fire cape

 

 

 

abysal whp

 

 

 

abbysal shield

 

 

 

and lots LOTS more

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets count what f2p members get

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a few easy quests

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lets count EVERYTHING else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Barb Assault.

 

 

 

Fifteen Quests

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, lets count the latest high level update in the past year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quest capes, and new agility course/crafting item.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P2P High levlels have alot of monsters to kill? Excuse me, but anyone with 43 prayer and a few prayer pots can tackle any monster. Look at how long these high level monsters have been in game. A few years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What creatures have been getting the new make overs? Not Dk's, not the Kq. But bunnies, cows, sheep, and weak level momsters. Low levels have a helluva lot. I'm not even a high level, and already I have 15 quests that I don't have to train for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, look at that. High levels have alot more then huh..yeah..thats uh..interesting.

[AlexTeHowneR]

 

 

 

 

lower levels get nothing

 

 

 

You're the perfect illustration of my point. People always complain and never agree with/like something. Your obviously a low level and you say you get nothing, so do (very) high levels and middle players who think their high levels, but aren't.

 

 

 

I'd suggest anyone to just enjoy the game as it is; I think when you need updates to keep enjoying this game, it's time to move on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IM LEVEL 60 idiot

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and i'm level 55 and i'm a lowbie. If i'd level my def and prayer, I sure will get up my cmb to 70 fast and easy. And btw levels 70+ are middle levels mostly. If I were you, I wouldn't call people idiots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

actualy the middel is like the half so half of 126 is 63 so level 63 is middle so think before you talk

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Xp-wise, it's actually about 105ish combat..

[Marvel Titan]

jagex gives TOO MUCH to high players never mind not enough

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on members you have

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fire cape

 

 

 

abysal whp

 

 

 

abbysal shield

 

 

 

and lots LOTS more

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets count what f2p members get

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a few easy quests

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol: if your that annoyed become a member :wink:

[sycosis5]

 

jagex gives TOO MUCH to high players never mind not enough

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on members you have

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fire cape

 

 

 

abysal whp

 

 

 

abbysal shield

 

 

 

and lots LOTS more

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets count what f2p members get

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a few easy quests

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol: if your that annoyed become a member :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol i will be

[King_Peter18]

So then, why are you fighting us?

[Maddra]

If you had checked out the runescape official forums rants recently, you would have found that high levels hate Jagex for not giving high level updates. Do you actually feel that way?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am lvl 110.. I dont feel that. I have yet to kill the kalphite queen by myself..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have yet to get a d chain drop...

 

 

 

or d leg drop...

 

 

 

d half shield drop...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do I have those things.. yes.. But I bought them.. part of the fun for me is to get the drop,.. on my own.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have a ways to go.

[kahl_kahlson]

Wow... :roll: even though low levels have gotten the firecape, it is certainly still a "high" level update. I for one think it is refreshing having a challenging task not solely based on repetitive clicking and countless hours of your life. True, maybe a few level 60s have achieved this feat, but the majority of

level 100s i meet have not...If a low level completes the fight caves, he has certainly earned it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I for one would prefer to see more updates like the fight caves, rather than armor and quests with ridiculous level requirments. But that would all be well and good too.... :D