Please note the mage xp is not 100% accurate and i may have totally messed it up - Do not flame any mistakes, just please tell me where i went wrong. :

 

 

 

Well, after seeing the amout of people who claimed they didn't use Pest Control, i have came up with a basic forumla to test how much/little you use pest control.

 

 

 

Here is a mage included assumption;

 

 

 

Alot of people have been getting 300/400k xp over, and have said its down to mage - So, here is a basic formula to see how many hitpoints may have been accumulated via mage.

 

 

 

(Your hp xp over / 1.33) * 4 = xp gained from mage damage attacks.

 

 

 

Actual mage xp - xp gained from mage damage attacks = alched/enchanted mage xp.

 

 

 

Alched/enchanted mage xp / (the spell you most used, eg alch/enchant/telly)

 

 

 

Eg;

 

 

 

(400k / 1.33) * 4 = 1 200 000 mage xp.

 

 

 

2 000 000 - 1 200 000 = 800 000 mage xp alched/enchanted.

 

 

 

800 000 / 65 = 18 500 alchs.

 

 

 

 

 

If the amount of alchs/enchants you are left with seems accurate to memory, then you have not pest controlled, and the excess hitpoint xp is down to mage attack.

 

However, if you remember alching less than 18 500, eg, 10 000, and your hitpoints is 400 000 xp over, it could be said you pest controlled attack/range/defence etc, and the mage attacking damaging made your hitpoint xp that high.

 

 

 

 

 

Okay; This calculation is assuming;

 

 

 

You do not use a cannon for range level.

 

You do not use pest points on hitpoints.

 

You use alch/enchant for mage levels. (hence why mage isn't included).

 

 

 

Firstly take the total xp of your attack, defence strength and range, and add them together. Then, divide them by 4 to get the amount of damage you have dealt in Runescape. Once you have that, multiply it by 1.33 and you have what xp your hitpoints should be.

 

 

 

(attack + strength + defence + range) / 4 * 1.33 = ?

 

 

 

I'll use me as an example;

 

 

 

Attack - 2mxp

 

Strength - 830kxp

 

Defence - 420kxp

 

Range - 411kxp

 

= 3.6million xp.

 

 

 

3.6million xp / 4 = 915 250 damage i have dealt.

 

 

 

915 250 * 1.33 = 1.2million hitpoint xp.

 

 

 

My actual hitpoints xp is 1 164 501.

 

 

 

As you can see, i am 36 00 hitpoint xp away from what it should be, if i didn't use pest control at all - I used it briefly to test out my Chinchompas for a guide, and that was 36 000 hp xp worth .

 

 

 

So, the basic assumption is, the further away your hitpoint xp is from what it would be, the more you use it, and the closer, the less you use it.

 

 

 

Im not saying the use of Pest control is bad or good, im just curious to see how far away the people who use it all the time are from what their hitpoints would be without it.

 

 

 

Do not post here to flame this theory, and if you do fall into the 'assumption mishaps', do not post and tell me its wrong, im well aware this isn't 100% accurate.

 

 

 

Well, post away.

Dont really get it :oops:

 

 

 

But pcs all i do now

 

Goin for 99 range...

Dont really get it :oops:

 

 

 

But pcs all i do now

 

Goin for 99 range...

 

 

 

Basically, prior to PC your HP xp would be directly related to your overall combat xp. Gin_and_Tonic has described that relationship and provided the formula for working out what your HP would be if you had never used PC (or a cannon for that matter).

 

 

 

My "proper" HP would be about 8.9m xp versus my current xp of 6.8mil had I not used PC from 92-98 Attack and got most of my range xp from using a cannon.

Attack 1,185,491

 

Defence 984,168

 

Strength 1,155,694

 

Hitpoints 3,021,988

 

Ranged 6,291,697

 

 

 

 

 

I'll do you for example;

 

 

 

1.1m + 1m + 1.2m + 6.2m = 9.5m

 

 

 

9.5m - 4 = 2.375m hits done.

 

 

 

2.375m * 1.33 = 3.2m hitpoint experience.

 

 

 

You have lost 180k xp in hitpoints from using pest control. :

Look at my sig

Hey, I've been wondering about this myself, thanks for figuring out the formula for me.

 

 

 

I lost the mega amount of 27.088,56 HP xp (and I'm 112 combat). Yeah, I'm quite the PC warrior 8-)

 

 

 

I prefer slayer for combat training.

Many quests give combat XP without giving HP XP.

 

So questers are now Pest Controlers?

 

 

 

 

 

But more importantly.

 

High Alching or enchanting don't give HP xp.

 

 

 

So the people that have gained 99 magic using these methods are now Pest Control products?

 

 

 

Tears of Guthix can give you att,str,mag,rang,def xp without giving hp xp.

 

Genie lamps and other xp lams...

 

 

 

So you cant rely calculate it with your method. -.-

I pc when I'm bored no need to rush my levels 8-)

Look at my sig

 

 

 

If you didn't use damage attacks for mage, looks like you've never Pest Controlled. :P

I am 2k xp off. I am proud to say, that the only levels I PCed were 69 - 70 Attack, and it wasn't even the entire level.

Though I pced, I don't use points on attack, strength, defence or range. It either goes to hp or magic. Therefore, my hp exp loss is still very insignificant.

 

 

 

Actual hp exp i should have : 3,264,158

 

Current hp exp : 3,643,798

 

 

 

That's 400k off :uhh:

Hmm i only use Chinchompas in PC, good xp.

 

points are spent on ranged of course...

 

but i only used PC to get my 90-93 ranged

Many quests give combat XP without giving HP XP.

 

So questers are now Pest Controlers?

 

 

 

 

 

But more importantly.

 

High Alching or enchanting don't give HP xp.

 

 

 

So the people that have gained 99 magic using these methods are now Pest Control products?

 

 

 

Tears of Guthix can give you att,str,mag,rang,def xp without giving hp xp.

 

Genie lamps and other xp lams...

 

 

 

So you cant rely calculate it with your method. -.-

 

 

 

You'd get about 20k hitpoint xp from a quest. Most quests also come with attack or strength xp also.

 

 

 

Tears of Guthix (last time i looked), gave you xp to your lowest skill - Who has attack, strength, mage range or hitpoints as a lowest skill, without being level 3? :roll:

 

 

 

If you read, it does say dont post if you pc 99 mage or hitpoints. :wink:

 

 

 

Edit: And im well aware alching and enchanting doesn't give hitpoint xp - I'll say it again - (Hence why it is not included)...

(3 685 718 + 2 690 753 + 1 538 047 + 1 213 168) / 4 = 2 281 921.5

 

 

 

2 281 921,5 * 1,33 = 3 034 955,6

 

 

 

Current Hitpoints Experience: 3,012,948

 

;)

lol my hp should be at 1.6 mill... but it's actually over 2mill

 

 

 

oh well.. i don't train magic much by high alching, about all my magic xp comes from barrows, so thats why i actually have a negative answer here ^^

 

 

 

honest, i doesn't cheat ^^ just magic isn't calced...

 

 

 

heck, i got 1.5 if i took magic within, and divided on 5...

 

 

 

is there something wrong? , no i have not used pc for hp levels.... heck, this is weird... it's a lot more hp xp than other combat xp in quests?? (wich i've done all of btw)

 

 

 

this makes me pretty unshure =/

 

 

 

heck, I DID NOT CHEAT!!!

(3,422,368+2,089,698+3,258,803+3,499,358)/4*1.33 = 3,067,558.08

 

 

 

Actual HP experience = 4,277,490

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hah, I'm like the anti PC.

atestarossa,

 

 

 

With Magic included, i got your hitpoints xp to make 2.5million, 400k off your actual.

 

 

 

Without magic, i made it 2.1million, making your hitpoint xp 20kxp over...

 

 

 

Are you sure you didn't pc or alch anything?

Attack: 8,081,564 xp

 

Defence: 5,398,693 xp

 

Strength: 7,454,761 xp

 

Ranged: 6,221,419 xp

 

= 27,156,437 xp

 

27,156,437 xp / 4 * 1.33 = 9,029,515 xp

 

Actual Hitpoints xp: 7,970,502.

 

 

 

well i have approx 4.2 mil att, def, str and 3.4 mil ranged. So using your formula my hp should be 5.32 mil, whereas it is actually 5.43 mil.

 

 

 

This is pretty close I reckon, with the deficit being made up by quite a bit of maging (barrows+steel dragons). I rarely PC (as I use slayer for training), I have only used PC for getting a couple of prayer levels.

17.9m Att

 

13.8m Str

 

13m Def

 

14m Ranged

 

 

 

Add together /4 *1,33 = 19.550k hp xp, i have 19.400k hp xp right now.

17.9m Att

 

13.8m Str

 

13m Def

 

14m Ranged

 

 

 

Add together /4 *1,33 = 19.550k hp xp, i have 19.400k hp xp right now.

 

 

 

Wow... All that xp and no pest control. :

Ive never peeceed, I dont bother doing the calculations. I may be missing a few hp exp due to quest rewards.

 

 

 

 

 

I personally dislike PC, Takes too much effort to get great exp, but losing 1/3 of the exp because you arent getting any Hp exp.

 

 

 

Or I can just use minimal effort at bandits and a bit lower exp without having to run, click, switch worlds.....

Hmm.. came out with 1 784 235xp for Hitpoint, when my actual Hitpoints Xp is.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 541 329xp... That's pretty damn far off, yet, I've never used Pest Control, and infact got to 100 Combat in my F2p days.. :-s

att 6,34

 

str 5,14

 

def 8,90

 

range 13,18

 

 

 

total: 33,56 / 4 *1,33 = 11,15M

 

 

 

actual hitpoints: 11,09M

 

 

 

spot on, the very few times I pc'ed I used it for prayer.. (and maybe used a canon once or twice :-w )

Mine comes out at 3,099,102 HP experience when mine is 3,589,130, but I don't use much alching/enchanting for my magic experience. :)