I don't mean entirely, perhaps just to a certain level but with the ability to train it up to 99. I mean, I don't think anyone is in any doubt that f2p is lacking rather a lot. I just think that opening up something like farming, which f2p members could get access to with the farming patches in f2p, would give a taster of the members world as well as providing something a bit different for those restricted to free-play. It could only be a good thing for Jagex, perhaps convincing people to become members in order to unlock the rest of the skill, and it would take off the pressure to bring in more major f2p updates. I'm not saying it has to be farming btw, it just seemed like one of the more convenient skills to open up, and a reasonably enjoyable one to boot. Opinions?

VERY GOOD IDEA i support fully

Nice to know it has some support, hardly a debate though :). Can I just point out that I'm p2p and not f2p, I just feel that something has to be done about the f2p game for those who are unable to get membership or just don't feel it is worth it. Well, perhaps with this, they would.

Well, it could be a good idea to bring some fresh enjoyment in the game but what about the greedy members?

What do you mean by that?

They will go "My skill pl0x, no more F2p skills, it's mine!!!1!! My preci0us!"

Hehe...yeah, well, tough. As I said, it wouldn't be opened up entirely, f2p could only unlock new parts of the skill to a certain level, so members would still get a lot of exclusive content. This should keep members happy and entice f2p players into getting a membership.

Honestly it's not needed. But if anything I would say agility would be the logical choice.

Not Agility is a bad choice due to the courses are in member part of the world.

 

 

 

Pay 5 bucks seriously not that hard

Yeah, this seems to be the opinion of most people when concerning the addition of p2p features to f2p. May I remind you that some people truly can't afford the $5 (ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20 in my case) or aren't allowed to become members. And I stick with farming, although I'm open to other suggestions.

There will always be a problem with opening any skill which is members tp F2p.

 

 

 

Lets take your example farming;

 

 

 

With farming comes new monsters - Members monsters. Not many GOOD f2p monsters in members drop seeds anyway, so that means JAGeX will need to open these new monsters to F2p, or make F2p monsters drop seeds.

 

 

 

Now, this then means, in theory, they'll need to introduce Tree Nests which aid the seeds which are dropped - This means people may want Rabbitfoot necklaces. - Which is another member item gone.

 

 

 

The biggest problem with making farming f2p is, they'll then need herblore. And if they dont, members will get upset over the huge drop in the price of herbs and potions as more and more people can access and sell them.

 

 

 

This goes with fletching. If you make it f2p, you'll need to make it possible for f2p'ers to alch yew/mage longs. This will eliminate the point of members paying membership if theyr'e going to alch. Whats more is, you'll need to make Magic logs f2p. Which again will annoy more members.

 

 

 

Personally, i dont think thats a good idea.

Its possible they make certain skills available for training up unto 20/30. Just to give a small taste, then snatch it from them. Agility would be my top pick, along with fletching for a small demo. But other than that, I can't see anything else being a good demo skill.

Yeah, this seems to be the opinion of most people when concerning the addition of p2p features to f2p. May I remind you that some people truly can't afford the $5 (ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20 in my case) or aren't allowed to become members. And I stick with farming, although I'm open to other suggestions.

 

 

 

Then you're just out of luck. Jagex is not running a charity. The only purpose for F2P is to make people want P2P. So, they're not going to give F2P another skill. Sure it would be fun for F2P, but it's not going to happen.

Yeah, this seems to be the opinion of most people when concerning the addition of p2p features to f2p. May I remind you that some people truly can't afford the $5 (ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20 in my case) or aren't allowed to become members. And I stick with farming, although I'm open to other suggestions.

 

 

 

I'm sorry, I work hard for my money - And the idea of someone else getting something for free that I worked for, doesn't sit right with me.

 

 

 

Sure, I know ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20 isn't a huge bite out of my paycheck - But it's almost an hours work. An hour's work I'd rather not spend serving beer to smelly, drunk, balding men. If I can put in the effort, why can't someone else?

 

 

 

Please, don't tell me that these kid's can't afford ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20? RuneScape is for years 13+, correct? Go get a paper round, mow lawns, walk dogs, rake gardens or even save 25p off your school lunch money each day. Whatever.

 

 

 

'Aren't allowed to become members?'

 

 

 

That's an issue the child has to take up with the parent. Not Jadex.

 

 

 

Either way - Your parent's know best. Maybe you should play less RS?

 

 

 

:roll:

 

 

 

Maybe i'm being a little harsh - But this is a personal irritation of mine.

 

 

 

Oh yeah - I'm anti-giving-welfare-to-24-year-old-drunks-who-have-never worked-a-day-in-their-life also. Get a job.

 

 

 

- Gid.

I don't really think it is necessary for F2P to get a new skill. But if Jagex was to grant any skill to F2P, I would have to say fletching is the most logical choice. But only for arrows, maybe only up to steel. Range is the only form of combat F2P can not make their own supplies for. However, as I said, F2P does not need a new skill.

 

 

 

By the way, I am F2P.

I don't really think it is necessary for F2P to get a new skill. But if Jagex was to grant any skill to F2P, I would have to say fletching is the most logical choice. But only for arrows, maybe only up to steel. Range is the only form of combat F2P can not make their own supplies for. However, as I said, F2P does not need a new skill.

 

 

 

By the way, I am F2P.

 

 

 

range can make thier armour from crafting. Sure it's low leveled, but that's jagex's choice not ours. They could increase the amount of armour f2p can make. but i don't see that happening.

 

 

 

hmm... let me see.

 

 

 

Hunter: Haven't really hunted yet so no comment.

 

Farming: someones already said the problems with this.

 

Construction: Too many p2p items involved.

 

Fletching: There's no flax in the f2p world. If there was flax then... maybe.

 

Agility: I really don't see any plus or minus to this one.

 

Herblore: Most of the herbs are members only.

 

Slayer: Most of the slayer master are in p2p parts of the world. Unless you introduce a f2p slayer master...

 

 

 

So i would say the best chanche for a p2p skill becoming f2p is either Slayer, maybe Hunter and Agility. Fletching is too much of a big skill for it to become f2p.

I support. i say they bring flecthing because warriors have smith and mage have runecraft to make runes but ranger have to spend money on arrows.

 

i also support farming,theifing and agillty and maby hunting

I don't really think it is necessary for F2P to get a new skill. But if Jagex was to grant any skill to F2P, I would have to say fletching is the most logical choice. But only for arrows, maybe only up to steel. Range is the only form of combat F2P can not make their own supplies for. However, as I said, F2P does not need a new skill.

 

 

 

By the way, I am F2P.

You make a good point about range being the only class unable to create there own ammo.

Agility would be ok to put in, because when people jump across the wilderness ditch I would say thats using agility. Maybe if they did this, a new members skill would be out to keep the balance.

 

 

 

Fletching would be good, but with only fletching Normal, Oak, Willow and Yew - No maple trees in f2p -, then to string them. They would buy bowstrings off members, flax would be p2p, bowstrings would not.

Ok, fletching would work and would be fairly useful, but I still don't see the problem with farming - only needs to be low-level seeds which could be bought from dray seed stalls, and npc seed drops wouldn't be hard to work in. I can't see slayer working, would have to be limited to f2p monsters and slayer masters need to be created. Hunter is never going to happen either, everything is is p2p so too big a project. And seriously, is the opening up of 1/5th of a member skill really going to make you feel members isn't worth it? Also, as much as you may not like it, there are a lot of underage players who truly can't afford members, and people are less likely to be persuaded to buy membership if f2p isn't worth their time. If an f2p player gets into this new skill, trains it up to the max level that f2p allows and then is told the rest is members-only, they're more than likely to go for p2p. Simple logic.

f2p is basically a trial version of the game.

 

You play it for a bit, realise it is very restricted and get members because it offers so much more.

 

 

 

 

 

No

Agility would be ok to put in, because when people jump across the wilderness ditch I would say thats using agility. Maybe if they did this, a new members skill would be out to keep the balance.

 

 

 

Fletching would be good, but with only fletching Normal, Oak, Willow and Yew - No maple trees in f2p -, then to string them. They would buy bowstrings off members, flax would be p2p, bowstrings would not.

 

Is there even a need to fletch bows? How cheap can you get them from lowe's archery store? Not even over 5k. if arrows fletching was allowed, it is going to cause a huge drop in arrow prices to even make addy/mith arrow smithing profitable, huge impact to market so no.

 

 

 

Agility sounds reasonable though since there are shortcuts in f2p that can be utilised, the problems comes in with the lack of space for agility courses. Grapple shortcuts are definitely a no-no and have to be excluded.

Not Agility is a bad choice due to the courses are in member part of the world.

 

 

 

Pay 5 bucks seriously not that hard

 

 

 

 

 

Sure.. :roll:

 

There are people out there who can't get members due to studies.. and other reasons similar. Those members who think we don't deserve updates should think about it.

 

I am not saying we are poor

There's already more than enough in F2P to convince people to join members. If you don't join members after you've finished all the F2P quests then you will probably never join members.

 

 

 

I support. i say they bring flecthing because warriors have smith and mage have runecraft to make runes but ranger have to spend money on arrows.

 

i also support farming,theifing and agillty and maby hunting

 

Why not just make members free? This only leaves 2 or 3 members-only skills, making the separation between F2P and P2P almost non-existent---except for the $5 that we pay. Why should we pay $5 for something that other people are getting for free?

 

 

Not Agility is a bad choice due to the courses are in member part of the world.

 

Pay 5 bucks seriously not that hard

 

Sure..

 

There are people out there who can't get members due to studies.. and other reasons similar. Those members who think we don't deserve updates should think about it.

 

I am not saying we are poor

 

One of my friends plays Runescape around 5 hours a month. He still pays money for members, even though he has very little time on his hands. As stated many times, Jagex isn't a charity, why should they give you free things because you don't think you play enough to pay for it?

maybe fletching up 2 addy arrows and up 2 maple bows (no maples in f2p but they arent members items