highlanders Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I think society has one big fat issue with individuality: Society encourages individuality as long as the individuality you express is the same as everyone elses. This encourages the creation of attitude/style/fashion groups: "punk", "skater", "emo", "gothic", and the likes. People often got issues with those groups, but they tolerate them. You can go out of your door, and wear whatever you like, something completely unique and unheard of if you want. But if you do so, other people will look at you funny, make displeasant remarks, make fun of you, and the likes. However, if your "unique" style is part of a known group, and that big companies are making clothes for people like you, and that everyone knows how people in your "group" behave. Then, all becomes fine, and people are decent with you. Do we really have the right to individuality? I'd say yes, we do, but peer pressure makes it extremely unpleasant. People seem to have given up on wearing what they really want to wear, and wear whatever is available that will get people to leave them alone. This is a real problem, what is wrong with this society? Nobody does anything unless other people do it, and if other people don't do it, then you get ridiculized for it. Occassionally, some people perceived as "cool" will pierce through and create the next fashion tendencies. The big designer companies basically decide what "normal" clothing you find in the shops. But damn, do we always have to follow someone else footsteps? I think not. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 You speak the truth. Everyone deserves individuality, but it is only the 'cool' people who make a fashion breakthrough who are truly entitled with this honour. And let's be honest, you either make it or you don't, but most people don't and end up following someone else and copying their fashion choices, who has copied someone else... and ultimately follow the 'cool' people. This doesn't create a group. This creates a herd of sheep led by a shepherd. Its a sad fact of modern society, and I don't think this trend is going to change for a long time... until someone makes a breakthrough. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrOwez Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I personally think that every human wants the same things, Love, comfort ,safety and acceptance. The means by which they achieve those are different for example, a kid may achieve all those by hanging around and dressing as a Goth, and hanging around with his Goth friends. Or some other Kid will get the same out of joining a gang or a crew. A friend to all is a friend to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Individuality is over rated really. It seems to only spout problems. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 No person is a complete individual. There are people that can go through life near enough on their own, but even they seek someone to be loved and accepted by. Therefore, while it's important we express our own individuality, we have to remember there's always someone who shows similar attributes to us. I personally don't feel a need to hang out in a group of a set code of traditions and morals, or a particular way of behaving or acting, but I still talk and get along with people similar to me. As for the matter in hand, they're just comfort groups. Hanging around people who call themselves the same as you brings out a feeling of acceptance. It's not that different to going on RuneScape and saying you're proud of being a member of Tip.It or RuneHQ - it's a demonstration of pride and of acceptance into a group. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaziek Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 woah, TRIPLE post. Only click once remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Crowd: We are all individuals! Person: I'm not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I don't think you can judge the individuality of a person through what clothes they wear. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksavior69 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Welcome to human civilization. "The only way to avoid packaging the water would be to deliver it to people's homes and places of business through some sort of amazingly intricate and complex series of reservoirs, pumping stations, pipes . . . hey, wait a second.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybappy Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Solution: We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I fail to see fashion and clothing being the most deciding factor in individuality, to be honest. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I fail to see fashion and clothing being the most deciding factor in individuality, to be honest. Suprised you would say that.. considering your the one who wears pink bubbly suits and haircut mohawks. :lol: Individuality is personality and its all expressed through what you wear, how you act, and your choices in life. woah, TRIPLE post. Only click once remember? Triple posting is part of his individuality If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I fail to see fashion and clothing being the most deciding factor in individuality, to be honest. Suprised you would say that.. considering your the one who wears pink bubbly suits and haircut mohawks. :lol: Individuality is personality and its all expressed through what you wear, how you act, and your choices in life. ...Quite. Being an individual has nothing to do with aesthetics - sometimes, clothes etc. cannot be helped or changed. How one behaves, perceives the world and relates to others determines individuality. Obviously, self-opinion shapes it as well as opinion on others. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoeba_009 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Individuality shure as hell aint for me. I dont try to conform and i usually dont. I just hate to see the kids who are all like, " OH IM SO COOL, im SOOO original". #-o Meanwhile they have Abacrombie and Finch or however you spell that on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfdude3 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 You can go out of your door, and wear whatever you like, something completely unique and unheard of if you want. But if you do so, other people will look at you funny, make displeasant remarks, make fun of you, and the likes. This is a real problem, what is wrong with this society? Nobody does anything unless other people do it, and if other people don't do it, then you get ridiculized for it. Occassionally, some people perceived as "cool" will pierce through and create the next fashion tendencies. The big designer companies basically decide what "normal" clothing you find in the shops. But damn, do we always have to follow someone else footsteps? I think not. well, its simple really. When people make fun of you for being different, just don't let it get you down. Laugh with the people laughing at you, and they'll start to like you and get over your differences. But if you return their hate with more hate you're just going to dig yourself into a hole of despair and depression. and see, you can't change society, its been like this since the beginning of time, there is no way you're gonna change this. But you can change your attitude if you choose to. Then you can be different like you want to be, and laugh and be happy with the people and society in the world. Sure you may get a few insults, but you can't let every little thing get you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfdude3 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 double post uggh theres something up with these forums.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Wow, whats up with all the double/triple posting? A new fad? :shame: And I agree Bubsa, just didn't have the vocabs to quite grasp it to explain it that well. If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoeba_009 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Individuality shure as hell aint for me. I dont try to conform and i usually dont. I just hate to see the kids who are all like, " OH IM SO COOL, im SOOO original". #-o Meanwhile they have Abacrombie and Finch or however you spell that on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelem_ryu Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 You are on the right track there, highlanders. People need labels on everything so it makes sense to them. Things that won't fit into anything are scary, because they are unpredictable. People develop patterns on how to interact with whatever they encounter. If they can easily put a label onto you, they can act automatically when they encounter you. They won't respond to you, but to the attributes they project on the label. On the other hand people tend to adopt a behaviour fitting to their labels. It's like a role playing game. There aren't just labels that you can choose, like idk emo or punk. There are also labels you are born with, like woman, black, jewish or idk what. There are plenty of people who will display the traits of a man or a woman, according to the idea they have of a man or a woman, instead of just being themselves. So you got a self reinforcing system where people play and pretend on basis of what is expected off them. In turn they will go even more into their role. If you get treated like x all the time, you will eventually start thinking, you are x. The human psyche is something awsome. Leads to pretty [developmentally delayed]ed results though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deloriagod Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Individuality shure as hell aint for me. I dont try to conform and i usually dont. I just hate to see the kids who are all like, " OH IM SO COOL, im SOOO original". #-o Meanwhile they have Abacrombie and Finch or however you spell that on. A&F is expensive as hell.. I cover my individuality with Hollister, American Eagle, and Aeropostal. Honestly, I dress preppy because I know nobody can take a shot at my clothes since they're wearing the same thing. In 11 month I'll be 18 and I'll be able to start getting tattoos (aside from the one I have) and the piercings I want. In 3 or so years I should be nearly a tang soo do black belt (so long as I learn quickly). Once that is complete I'll begin my half sleeve tattoo and continue training for my master black belt. In 5 years and 9 months I'll be finishing college and begining life on my own. It's not until then that I can being individual all around. Until then, my asthetic individuality is hidden by a clever disguise that helps me fit in. But I won't give up my individual personality and such. I can only conform so far! /end rambling Internet Marketing For Newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGoddessI Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Unfortunately these labels will never fully be removed. Everything that ever has been socially acceptable is formed by critical masses of invisible numbers. The majority can always rule but the minority will always have a voice. "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has" - Margaret Mead The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthix_Girl Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Why would anyone want to fit in? I don't fit in, I don't choose to fit in, I don't WANT to fit in. I don't care if people don't like me or don't accept me because I don't follow trends. Fitting in is as far as I'm concerned, uncool in itself. Never take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Lol, people who are these people who determine who fits in and not do that for an excuse to get easy friends. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powman3 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I wear the slim looking Levis, Polo Shirts, Linen shorts, sneakers, Supras, and I have a supreme dislike for people who call me poser. Yeah..., I do support individuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian5kamikaze Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I wear the slim looking Levis, Polo Shirts, Linen shorts, sneakers, Supras, and I have a supreme dislike for people who call me poser. Yeah..., I do support individuality. Must be a reason for people calling you a poser? Not saying you are but i dont see why people would just say that. I wear tight band tees, i hate loose clothing i dont know why lol and [bleep]ie/ quicksilver shorts with vans, oh and i dont wear socks lol, dont know how that tells you much about myself as an indiviual, other than the type of music i like. Quit. PM me if you play The Conduit to exchange friend codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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