ZGS: Why it isn't THAT bad

[TheAncient]

The ZGS Special has a variety of uses. It is NOT useless:

 

 

 

(It is ~60% drain, not full drain).

 

 

 

1. PKing:

 

--Spec prevents person from running

 

 

 

2. Castle wars:

 

--Spec comparable to barrage, but better because runners usually use mage prayer.

 

 

 

3. Barrows:

 

--Allows you to safespot essentially any time you want. Or, allows you to use the ancient method without ancienting, saving you some deaths and bloods.

 

 

 

4. GWD:

 

--Hold off any of the melee subbosses.

 

 

 

5. KQ:

 

--Hold off the guardians.

 

 

 

6. Farcasting Melee:

 

--Works in 1v1 melee (both PvP and PvM) situations. You spec them, and with fastest reaction as possible, run away. Then wait a second, attack them again, and run away again. Effectively, this equalizes your opponent's weapon speed with yours, and since GS is slow, this is to your advantage. In some cases, you may even be able to avoid any of their attacks altogether.

 

(I have tested this, and had a near-flawless victory against a lvl 108 in full torag. He only hit once, and was using DDS/whip).

 

(I also tested this against BGS, and the ZGS won).

[Master_Smither]

Nice facts but people wwant Armdyl because of it's massive hits and almost always a 1 hit k.0. Not sure why sara is costly maybe cause boss is tough.

[warlordsagan]

Nice facts but people wwant Armdyl because of it's massive hits and almost always a 1 hit k.0. Not sure why sara is costly maybe cause boss is tough.

 

 

 

+1 <--- I always wanted to do that :P

 

 

 

There has been, at least in the past a ton more people at Bandos, then Armadyl and Sara.

[Freesia]

If all godswords were as costly, surely sara would own this godsword hands down. Seems to be no actual use for the spec except going against boss monsters or pvp, not for general pvm uses.

[highlanders]

If all godswords were as costly, surely sara would own this godsword hands down. Seems to be no actual use for the spec except going against boss monsters or pvp, not for general pvm uses.

 

The whip beats the godsword for exp training, so why would you want a spec thats good for pvm? The point of the godsword is that it is good for pvp or bosses. Btw, I'm not saying that sara is better than armardyl, I don't know anything about the specs, but that your statement is not logical.

[totalpwnage]

Zammy is the easiest boss, especially for solo. Sara apparently has high as hell def, not to mention the 70 agi req. Bandos is the most popular. Armadyl... that bird has a wingspan of a desktop background on 1280x1024. And he hurts. Looks like size does matter (no homo)

 

Zammy is good, but Bandos is the one thing that owns pures unless they have a super restore. Any def will get owned by it, actually.

 

But yes, if you really want a godsword, go for zammy, as it is the cheapest.

[xSxqPowerx]

For the 5m or whatever more bandos sword costs I just don't see the reason you'd get zammy.

[Obtaurian]

You came up with a few great uses for the Zamorak Godsword.

 

 

 

To everyone who has no idea how to use a Saradomin Godsword. It's simple.

 

 

 

Slayer.

 

 

 

It could easily replace Guthans.

[Peronix]

You came up with a few great uses for the Zamorak Godsword.

 

 

 

To everyone who has no idea how to use a Saradomin Godsword. It's simple.

 

 

 

Slayer.

 

 

 

It could easily replace Guthans.

 

 

 

And it only costs 104m more :roll:

[Obtaurian]

You came up with a few great uses for the Zamorak Godsword.

 

 

 

To everyone who has no idea how to use a Saradomin Godsword. It's simple.

 

 

 

Slayer.

 

 

 

It could easily replace Guthans.

 

 

 

And it only costs 104m more :roll:

 

 

 

Good point. :wall:

 

 

 

Well, theoretically, it could replace Guthan's.

[mchainmail]

I'm pretty sure it's the 70 agility requirement, only a couple thousand players even have access to the area.

[Star_Fox]

I'm pretty sure it's the 70 agility requirement, only a couple thousand players even have access to the area.

 

 

 

minus the lower lvls\skillers.

[Dragonlordjl]

For the 5m or whatever more bandos sword costs I just don't see the reason you'd get zammy.

 

 

 

Several reasons:

 

 

 

1) More practical for doing Bandos Godwars runs... You wear a piece of bandos armor and the Zamorak GS and you can then wear a skill cape for the +4 prayer bonus and +9 defense.

 

 

 

2) Perhaps one is an avid CW player like I am?

 

 

 

3) The Bandos Special is highly overrated. It uses up the entire bar, which is a longshot. You'd be better off using 4x dds specs. And against boss monsters, 3x d hally specs are superior.

[jessy87]

For the 5m or whatever more bandos sword costs I just don't see the reason you'd get zammy.

 

 

 

 

 

well, personally i see it in 2 major ways.

 

1, 5mil is 5mil after saving 40mil 5mil more might be hard to squeeze out easily.

 

2, special attack drain, and the ice barrage that only hits 1 person. really seems appealing.

 

 

 

another thing, people do tend to go for the cheaper of the variants. but you know how kids are these days, zammy is the cool god to be worshiping so lets get his sword.

 

 

 

 

 

bandos tho, on monsters just i dunno didnt seem good i guess id have to fight something worth the trouble tho. instead of like fire giants or something.

[I_Fly_High_G]

I don't know if this is true, but I have a BGS and when I go kill Bandos with my team, and I hit say a 50 spec on the general, we usually kill the general way quicker than if i didn't spec. Maybe thats just me, but it seems to happen alot when we go.

 

 

 

So I'd say the BGS spec may have an effect on monsters, specially high lvl boss monsters with high def, but thats just me.

[nicrune007]

I never knew people thought they were useless.

[jackal_55]

ZGS is probably better than all but armadyl for pking, since about 70% of people don't have tele's, 4 hits with a GS is more than enough to finish them off.

 

 

 

but you really cant beat armadyl for PVP, it can take 3/4 of the max hits you can get with one special, and its deadly accurate.

 

but TBH i can't afford any of them, i have about 15m total. :oops:

 

 

 

BGS is the best by far for killing bosses, one guy posted a vid a bit after the release, he solo'd the KQ with 1 prayer pot.

 

he may have been maxed out, but killing both forms of the KQ with only 1 prayer pots is pretty good, no matter how you look at it. :P

[TheAncient]

I never knew people thought they were useless.

 

 

 

A 121 with AGS dueled me after calling my ZGS a "welfare GS". Oddly, I beat him with half health left.

[xpx]

sseli, Zamorak godsword isn't priced lower because it's rubbish, but because it is a lot easier to get.

 

 

 

Zamorak godsword still, arguably, is the most useless of the swords, but if you use any of them for training, the differences aren't that apparent. Saradomin is definitely the most useful for training(since you lose defence having no shield) as you don't have to use guthans very often, Armadyl is best for pking, since you have two very good chances of KO you opponent.

 

Bandos and Zammy are a bit different, they have their uses, but those aren't that good. Bandos isn't great for pking, as most people use brews/restores anyway, and you only get one special, although it works great against monsters. Zammy may be useful to stop your victim getting away, but using barrage is a lot easier.

 

 

 

sseli, the thing you said about owning another person with ags is just unbelievably stupid and daft. Godswords have exactly the same stats, the only difference is 3-4 special attacks, that matter very little in a fight to death. Can't even believe you compared the swords like that.

[98_r4nge_98]

You came up with a few great uses for the Zamorak Godsword.

 

 

 

To everyone who has no idea how to use a Saradomin Godsword. It's simple.

 

 

 

Slayer.

 

 

 

It could easily replace Guthans.

 

 

 

And it only costs 104m more :roll:

 

 

 

Good point. :wall:

 

 

 

Well, theoretically, it could replace Guthan's.

 

 

 

Anyone who's rich and doesn't want defence exp/isn't 70 defence, it can replace guthans for them. :D

[berserking1]

I'm pretty sure it's the 70 agility requirement, only a couple thousand players even have access to the area.

 

 

 

35,000+ have 70 agility, and i personally got it to check out this boss

 

the boss is very very stong and difficult, hands down the hardest boss of the 4 gods, ive only seen one sara god sword since the update and it was in world 2. Difficult boss + rare drop = not many in game and therefore a high price

 

 

 

 

 

on topic: i had the zgs for a couple weeks right after the update and i liked using it in cwars, otherwise bandos is the right choice unless you have heaps of money for ags (pking) or sgs (slaying)

[qeltar]

The Sara GS is expensive not just because the boss is hard, but also because for most players who do PvM, it is hands down the best.

 

 

 

Even in dueling it is far better than most people give it credit for.

[Peronix]

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You came up with a few great uses for the Zamorak Godsword.

 

 

 

To everyone who has no idea how to use a Saradomin Godsword. It's simple.

 

 

 

Slayer.

 

 

 

It could easily replace Guthans.

 

 

 

And it only costs 104m more :roll:

 

 

 

Good point. :wall:

 

 

 

Well, theoretically, it could replace Guthan's.

 

 

 

Anyone who's rich and doesn't want defence exp/isn't 70 defence, it can replace guthans for them. :D

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Well it being 110m is just the first putoff. If you get to low health and you don't have enough spec for a heal then you're going to wish you had guthans...

[Str4lif3]

 

 

 

+1

 

 

 

-1. Ownt. :P

 

 

 

 

 

On-topic, I think armadyl is the best, but zgs is very usefull in wild, with the barrage thing.

[qeltar]

 

Well it being 110m is just the first putoff. If you get to low health and you don't have enough spec for a heal then you're going to wish you had guthans...

 

 

 

It depends what you are fighting.

 

 

 

Most of my slayer assignments now I can use my SGS and don't even need Guthans.

 

 

 

Remember that Guthans also is not entirely reliable or predictable.