Underage Smoking/Drinking/Doing drugs/etc.

[The Observer]

It will ruin their life completely.

 

Just had to laugh at this comment because it's so ridiculous.

 

 

 

I'm not trying to encourage under-age drinking/etc but I would like to hear how is would ruin someone's life by having a few beers sensibly.

 

 

 

I don't mean it in that sense. The people I talk about drink until they're drunk every time they drink.

[deloriagod]

It will ruin their life completely.

 

 

 

Really? My life doesn't seem to be ruined :-k

 

 

 

 

I don't mean it in that sense. The people I talk about drink until they're drunk every time they drink.

 

 

 

I just noticed this and thought I'd comment.. I like to drink until I'm drunk. Honestly, I don't like having a few drinks and calling it quits before I feel anything. I feel like I just poisoned myself and got absolutely no good feelings out of it. Yes, I admit I'm poisoning myself with alcohol but the air you breathe has poisons in it and you're not going to feel good from it. Alcohol gives me a good feeling for the time that I'm drunk and I enjoy it. It's not like I get drunk every night and skip school to drink. It's just on weekends or nights when I don't have school.

 

 

 

Personally, I say it's their own choice, let them do what they want. I drink and I'm just fine. My life isn't spiriling down the drain and I haven't plowed over a bunch of kids in my car because I was drinking and driving (of course I don't drink and drive + I lost my license for an unrelated matter). Now I have friends that do drugs. Pot mostly from what I've heard though I do know a guy that does ex. It's not a big deal to me and I figure one of these days I'll join them to see what it's like. It's illegal yes, but it's no problem to get your hands on around here and I've never heard of a single student getting busted. Of course there are the morons with expired plates on their car who are trying to haul 20 lbs of the stuff and get caught, but they're not high school students. And I don't plan on smoking until I'm of age, if I ever do smoke (which is highly unlikely).

 

 

 

Its fine as long as its I-Doser :lol:

 

 

 

It still amazed me that those work every time I turn them on :P

[flipflop121]

I believe that alot of people who comment on these issues have no [bleep]ing idea what there talking about. "i heard it on oprah" WTF dude i should slap ya in the face for watchin that [cabbage], oprah will only show you one extreme or the other, not the office man who works 40 hours a week and goes out of a friday night has a few cones and beers with his mates, because that doesnt make compelling T.V

 

 

 

as some1 before has said, most of the myths about pot are FALSE

 

 

 

Some say: Beer and pot act as depressant, they reduce ur reaction times and pot is also a hellucient.

 

 

 

we all know the story about the guy who had something [cabbage] happen in his life and he crawled into a wiskey bottle and lived there. every town needs a drunk, where else would there fun derive from (the village idiot is in bed at this time)

 

 

 

as for alchole, when i drink beer everything is funny, we laugh more, we get crazy and its awesome try it sometime before degrading everyone who does it

 

 

 

as for drugs, weed / weak forms of eccy's are fine, heroine / meth not so good. there are different levels of drugs, just as there are different lvls of alchole. however heroine and meth are highly addictive and i would advise not to go there. (been there done that not a [bleep]ing good idea if u dont want to spend a [bleep]load of cash, if u do want to spend cash, buy me a T.V so i can laugh at oprah). pot is harmless, and weakish eccys are aswell, do it in moderation and try to be sensible about it.

 

 

 

as for cigs, i honestly dont know why every1 hates us so much. the cases of 2nd hand smoke are people who work in a bar 55 hours a week, surrounded by smoke, even then it takes them ages to actually contract any form of cancer from it. and speaking of not looking after other peoples health, its best to look in a mirror and think how you can improve rather then how another person can. i drive a car, i dont give to charities and i dont help the old lady down my street with her shopping... do you? judge not till thyself is judged

 

 

 

erkid"]And for smoking (cigs not weed).. w\e go do something completely pointless, waste your money, and your life.

 

 

 

ur a [bleep]ing [developmentally delayed]. ur sitting here playing runescape wasteing ur money, wasteing ur life and getting cronic back problems from sitting in the chair wrong, ur ears are getting destroyed by having ur sound to loud, and ur missing out on getting enough of the suns energy making u weak and ur skin pale.

 

 

 

for people who want to judge me. im bored, dont really care what u say as i wont check it. im sure some1 will pull a fully sick "burn" on me but w/e. i layed my views out there unlike most people here. i also spoke from experience, not many people actually have experience to post from, just saying u shouldnt do something means nothing, give valid reasons, experiment with it, try it, learn from it. life is meant to be fun, it is also a learning process. if u live in a bubble ur will never experience life as it was ment to be lived. wing life everynow and then, splurge on [cabbage] u dont really need, dont bother hordeing money, u cant take it with u when ur dead, live life to the full and have no regrets

 

 

 

P.S zezima have my babies.

 

 

 

peace out

[kelem_ryu]

idk... When i was 13 i got wasted at least on Saturdays for some time. Eventually i stopped doing that though. With 15 i started smoking pot. We were high most of the time in school. We even had a bong in the locker. *sigh* It was a hell of a time. Other drugs i did only rarely. Nowadays i drink a bit and smoke pot every once in a while. I smoke two packs of cigarettes a day though.

 

 

 

So that means, i wouldn't go out and tell teenies to get wasted or whatever. They do what they want anyway.

 

 

 

There are much more efficient ways to waste your life. Like working a boring deskjob for 30 years or watching TV.

 

 

 

@flipflop - regarding 2nd hand smoke. I think it's a bit hypocritical to complain about 2nd hand smoke, as long as everybody drives around in their silly tin cans (aka cars).

[99pulse99]

life's short so why hold back?

 

 

 

 

 

If your mature enough to know what your doing and know the consequences then i say its fair game(Y)

[AThousandLies]

I personally don't drunk or smoke or do drugs, though have had plenty of chances. Don't know if I ever will, don't intend to at this point in time. The way I see it is, I don't need foreign substances to act like a [bleep]; not to say that everyone who gets drunk does, but that's what a lot of people do it for. Australian teenagers tend to have a strong drinking culture. I don't mind if people drink, but I don't want to know if you've gotten so wasted that you're on your knees, barking like a dog and acting like a slave for people. Alcohol for the sake of alcohol, when it's done to the extent it is here, seems a bit much sometimes.

 

 

 

I find it ridiculous when you get these anti-smoking campaigners going to the extent of coughing in the face of smokers; the sort of crap that Bill Hicks had to deal with. The only argument I can see against smoking is the costs it has to the health system; aside from that, it's a person's own choice entirely. Second-hand smoke will only result in severe damage if there is consistent exposure over a long period of time. If you're going to ban smoking - hell, why not ban fatty food, coca cola and any other unhealthy product?

 

 

 

As far as pot goes, I think it should be decriminalized. With alcohol, (some) people get stupid, get into fights, get violent, drink and drive and kill. I can't say I've heard of cases of people starting fights while on pot - instead (from my observations and from what I have heard) it makes people mellow, relaxed and calm; destressing them and allowing them to relieve the tensions of their life.

 

 

 

I'm not a great deal keen on ecstacy, meth, heroin and anything beyond. With meth and speed and other variants, things seem to get messy. I'd be very dubious about associating myself with regular users of such things.

[Bubsa]

life's short so why hold back?

 

Life aint short, it's the longest thing you'll do!

[IGoddessI]

My answers are in the other underage drug/drinking/smoking threads :)

[99pulse99]

life's short so why hold back?

 

Life aint short, it's the longest thing you'll do!

 

 

 

Hmm maybe i should of said "you only live once" or one of those other overused/cheesy lines.

 

 

 

My point is don't be afraid to take a risk, you may regret doing it but you will most likely regret that you didn't do it.

 

 

 

Of course that's just my opinion.

[Poopingman]

This forum is full of kids too young to have even been really exposed to these things, and act all godsent about never having done any of them.

 

 

 

I drink occasionally, with friends. Same with smoking (hookah). I feel fine, I can run 2 miles without issue, I am in good health. In my eyes, just do what you want, its no one else's business.

[kelem_ryu]

Places like Spain, Italy and France get it right. Introducing wine at meals, watered down ....

 

 

 

How can watering down wine be the right thing ever?! What has the wine done to get treated like that =(

[welephant]

Surpisingly what poopingman said is far too true. (Even with a name like poopingman... :P Just kidding.)

 

 

 

It seems like the general opinion is here "Don't do this, then you won't live as long." But I ask you, who wants to live forever? All the joys of old-age await those that do not live there life too the full. Arthritis, loosing control of your bodily functions, watching everyone you know your whole life die around you.... That's if a disease that you can do nothing about, even with your organic fruit and veg lifestyle, doesn't kill you first.

 

 

 

I enjoy smoking occasionally. Drinking is fun for me. Drugs not so much, but I will at least try something before criticising it (This doesn't stick for "hard" drugs such as heroin. I've had too many friends die in awful circumstances to have any good opinions towards these.)

 

 

 

It's getting on my nerves how a big group of people who have never experienced these things will tell me I'm killing myself, when I'm fully aware of that and yet I continue to do it because I enjoy it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, on topic: The guideline ages are there too show people that maturity is needed before making these decisions. As long as you're doing it for yourself and feel you're ready then it's fine. But don't (as many others on this thread have already said) let other pressure you into it.

[Iv_Green_vI]

If people want to do it, so be it.

[venomai]

I enjoy smoking occasionally. Drinking is fun for me. Drugs not so much, but I will at least try something before criticising it. (This doesn't stick for "hard" drugs ...)

 

I hope you realize that nicotine and alcohol are both considered "hard" drugs. :|

 

 

 

Why do people neglect to categorize alcohol and/or nicotine as a drug? Both substances are very dangerous and very addicting. In fact, many studies have shown them to be more (physically) addicting and harmful than drugs like LSD, shrooms or marijuana (thus the difference in hard/soft drug classification).

 

 

 

I've got some sources in one of my recent posts and more details in a rather outdated topic of mine.

[AThousandLies]

I enjoy smoking occasionally. Drinking is fun for me. Drugs not so much, but I will at least try something before criticising it. (This doesn't stick for "hard" drugs ...)

 

I hope you realize that nicotine and alcohol are both considered "hard" drugs. :|

 

 

 

Why do people neglect to categorize alcohol and/or nicotine as a drug? Both substances are very dangerous and very addicting. In fact, many studies have shown them to be more (physically) addicting and harmful than drugs like LSD, shrooms or marijuana (thus the difference in hard/soft drug classification).

 

 

 

I've got some sources in one of my recent posts and more details in a rather outdated topic of mine.

 

 

 

I suppose it's because they require long-term or highly concentrated usage to have damaging affects. Smoking a packet cigarettes will affect you less than a small hit of heroin or ice.

[Led-Zeppelin]

this reminds me of a time when me and my friend went to a party neither of us have ever drank much so my friend got dared to drink a pint of Absinthe which is illegal here in the UK, [another mate sneaked some from Amsterdam.]

 

 

 

Common misconception. Absinthe has never been made illegal to import or distribute in the U.K. I usually see a bottle behind/under the shelf in ever off license I go too.

 

 

 

The hallucinagenic Absynth is illegal, others aren't. There is four different types of Absynth down at my local bottle store.

 

 

 

A pint of Absynth? Did he by any chance end up in the emergency ward? Because thats what would happen, especially if you can't handle alcohol well.

[How2PK]

 

I just noticed this and thought I'd comment.. I like to drink until I'm drunk. Honestly, I don't like having a few drinks and calling it quits before I feel anything. I feel like I just poisoned myself and got absolutely no good feelings out of it.

 

 

 

Uh, you don't drink because it tastes good? Or it compliments the meal you are having? Just to get drunk 'to feel something'. That's a pretty pathetic attitude, sory. :lol:

[madcap_laughs]

I'm here to answer some of the questions people might have, I've been drinking and smoking consistently for the past 5-6 years

 

 

 

Personally, I don't think they should do it. It will ruin their life completely.

Wow. You've never done drugs, yet you honestly think this? There are such a wide variety of drugs, if you actually know anyone who has had their life ruined, then they were doing more than the norm

 

 

 

Of course it's not bad. They can quit anytime they want. Rolling Eyes

Yes, actually. In fact, of all the mainstream drugs that most teenagers use (e.g. alcohol, tobacco, weed, LSD, shrooms, ecstasy, caffeine), the only ones which are addicting are the ones that ARE legal. None of the illegal drugs listed above are physically addicting(i.e. they have some kind of addictive property in them)

 

 

 

 

I agree with necro. I'd rather see my teens high. Alcohol is quite a bit worse than weed.

Definitely

 

 

 

But if your someone who drinks, gets wasted and underage there's a problem.

This is a bit of a personal issue for me. I would actually completely disagree with that statement. Teenagers get wasted because of the way it feels (awesome). I would consider people who just drink a little bit to be the bad people, because thats a sign if alcohol addiction (not drinking for the affects , but rather because they want to)

 

 

 

And for smoking (cigs not weed).. w\e go do something completely pointless, waste your money, and your life.

Weed is not a waste of money. It gets you in to a great mood and is a great pain reliever. There are actually people who get weed from the govt medicinally. However, I began cigarettes as an enhancer for weed. It gets you into an even more ecstatic state

 

 

 

I personally wouldn't drink for the sake of getting drunk. Plain stupidty, just throw some bricks on top of your head and it'll feel the same tomorrow. I wouldn't get high neither, seems pointless to look at flying random colours and forgetting stuff.

Um, no. Dropping a brick on your head will get you the same affects as a hang over, something which older people and less experienced alcohol users experience the next morning. Weed isn't about seeing colors and flying unicorns, unfortunately :(. Thats more of an LSD thing

 

 

 

However, with anything smoked, I am highly, HIGHLY, against! If you want to cabbage up your life, feel free, but if you smoke anything, it's producing highly toxic smoke that can cause things like lung cancer. NO THANKS!

 

 

 

For the record, I've never done either.

 

 

 

For the record, your previous statement made your opinion completely null

 

 

 

The problem is that not enough parents spend time to show/talk their kids how to properly drink to prevent them from going out of control when they do get access to beer.

 

 

 

I lived in Italy for a few years of my life, and my dad would frequently take me to the bar when I was 8-10, then when I was in my teens and in America, I had a much better understanding and was ready to get completely hammered

 

 

 

Not to say I don't do it... In fact, I love getting drunk because it makes me care-free and happy. Quite the opposite from my normal doom and gloom personality.

Thats an early sign of alcoholism, drinking to escape your problems

 

 

 

this reminds me of a time when me and my friend went to a party neither of us have ever drank much so my friend got dared to drink a pint of Absinthe which is illegal here in the UK

Uh... that could be interpreted as attempted murder, and absinthe isn't illegal in the UK

 

 

 

Some say: Beer and pot act as depressant, they reduce ur reaction times and pot is also a hellucient.

That, combined with everything you just said , makes me ashamed to be apart of the same social culture as yourself

 

 

 

Uh, you don't drink because it tastes good? Or it compliments the meal you are having? Just to get drunk 'to feel something'. That's a pretty pathetic attitude, sory. Laughing

He probably isn't a big fan of beer, neither am I. When someone comes up to me and is like " Yo dude! you wanna get a keg this weekend? " and then I tell them that I'm not much of a beer drinker, they look at me disgusted. Usually when i go to a party, I bring a flask full of some hard liquor and make it my limit. I just don't like the taste of beer :? I would much rather be drinking some vodka at the dinner table than beer , for some reason my taste buds don't react to liquor like it does for most people

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and for anyone who still dislikes weed, theres always a vaporizer

[venomai]

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I enjoy smoking occasionally. Drinking is fun for me. Drugs not so much, but I will at least try something before criticising it. (This doesn't stick for "hard" drugs ...)

 

I hope you realize that nicotine and alcohol are both considered "hard" drugs. :|

 

 

 

Why do people neglect to categorize alcohol and/or nicotine as a drug? Both substances are very dangerous and very addicting. In fact, many studies have shown them to be more (physically) addicting and harmful than drugs like LSD, shrooms or marijuana (thus the difference in hard/soft drug classification).

 

 

 

I've got some sources in one of my recent posts and more details in a rather outdated topic of mine.

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I suppose it's because they require long-term or highly concentrated usage to have damaging affects. Smoking a packet cigarettes will affect you less than a small hit of heroin or ice.

 

If heroin is used properly (eg. at a Safe Injection Site) you can minimize any physical risk. Heroin is also not immediately addicting -- you won't get hooked after one hit.[1] Heroin isn't something that's known to do immediate damage when used properly.

 

 

 

If there's a problem, such as an incorrect injection, an infected needle, a laced dose or an unexpectedly high dose, then this could result in physical harm. However, these are things that only tend to exist due to the criminalization of heroin.

 

 

 

Alcohol is very easy for some people to overdose on, though. I've seen people get alcohol poisoning after only a few beers. (granted, they are very short and skinny people)

[StrOwez]

this reminds me of a time when me and my friend went to a party neither of us have ever drank much so my friend got dared to drink a pint of Absinthe which is illegal here in the UK, [another mate sneaked some from Amsterdam.]

 

 

 

Common misconception. Absinthe has never been made illegal to import or distribute in the U.K. I usually see a bottle behind/under the shelf in ever off license I go too.

 

 

 

The hallucinagenic Absynth is illegal, others aren't. There is four different types of Absynth down at my local bottle store.

 

 

 

A pint of Absynth? Did he by any chance end up in the emergency ward? Because thats what would happen, especially if you can't handle alcohol well.

he only managed half a pint because it was so bitter which is about 3 mouth fulls =]

[assassin_696]

 

But if your someone who drinks, gets wasted and underage there's a problem.

This is a bit of a personal issue for me. I would actually completely disagree with that statement. Teenagers get wasted because of the way it feels (awesome). I would consider people who just drink a little bit to be the bad people, because thats a sign if alcohol addiction (not drinking for the affects , but rather because they want to)

 

 

 

I think you need to rephrase that last bit. Drinking a little now and again because you like a drink is not alcohol addiction. It's enjoying the taste of alchohol (wine/beer etc.).

[Bubsa]

I'm here to answer some of the questions people might have, I've been drinking and smoking consistently for the past 5-6 years

 

 

 

That's hilarious. You're acting like you have a qualification in the art. :lol:

[Defender2516]

 

 

 

Sure, getting high might mess up your mind, but its FUN.

 

 

 

 

 

I couldn't help but Lol at that statement. In this world of technology, we have TONS of countless entertainment values for fun, if you think lowering your IQ alittle bit more is "fun", well maybe you have drunk too much.

[Suiblade]

I'm against ALL use of drugs/alcohol, unless of course the drug is mandatory medication or something similar to that. I'm not against the use of these kinds of things precisely because they "ruin your future", but I think that if you have to "get high" to have fun, then you're lacking of imagination. Someone please explain to me how temporarily losing awareness and/or becoming oblivious to reality (and waking up the next morning with a painful headache) can be considered fun.

[venomai]

I couldn't help but Lol at that statement. In this world of technology, we have TONS of countless entertainment values for fun, if you think lowering your IQ alittle bit more is "fun", well maybe you have drunk too much.

 

Alcohol, in moderate amounts, is speculated to actually improve your IQ -- not lower it.[1]

 

 

 

Someone please explain to me how temporarily losing awareness and/or becoming oblivious to reality (and waking up the next morning with a painful headache) can be considered fun.

 

Most drugs make you feel great while you're on them. Alcohol hangovers aren't very common for inexperienced users, especially if you're responsible. If you're really worried about hangovers, there are a number of ways to avoid/diminish their negative effects. But, I'll tell ya, after two years of weekend drinking, I've only had about two or three hangovers. They were very minor and very manageable. The rest of the time I just feel a little dehydrated the next day.

 

 

 

From personal experience, I can say that my usual marijuana "high" consists of euphoria, giggles, heightened sense of taste and sound, greater appreciation for life, general slowness, slightly more vivid colours and, occasionally, anxiety. I find that anxiety can be minimized in a proper set and setting.

 

 

 

Alcohol is different for everybody. Mainly, it makes you more confident, careless and intimate. This can be a good or bad thing depending on the person.

 

Ever since I started drinking, I've become a much more confident person. Drinking has a taught me a lot of good "life lessons" and has helped me mature quite a bit.

 

 

 

Even if you don't drink/toke, you can still enjoy yourself at parties. Most parties I go to there's always a crowd that stays reasonably sober.

 

 

 

Hope it helps. I used to think that alcohol and marijuana were bad until I tried them. Since then, I've changed my stance quite a bit.