mario_sunny Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Wow... very impressive. :thumbsup: Considering the amount of great information I've seen I can't wait for more dragons to come up (I'm some what of an active dragon slayer myself). If you want, you could borrow my dragon drop logs from my blog, I record every single drop from my KBD hunts, black dragons, iron dragons, and steel dragons. It could give people an idea of what they would recieve after x amount of kills. I even have a picture of a visage drop if you need it. :wink: A few details though on the guide. On some parts the information starts to get a tad boring, as if the sentences seem to be trailing on. This kind of boredom can cause people to skip over some paragraphs, searching for what they really need: short, to the point information. Try cutting out the important snippets and perhaps using a bit more bullets. Bullets seem to catch people's attention if they look short and important. The pictures are great though, nothing wrong there. Nicely cropped, no unneeded pictures. One last thing; perhaps include a quoted drop list for each dragon. That would help instead of going all the way to tip.it and looking it up in the bestiary. Even a link to the bestiary page would work. Overall, awesome guide! PS: I haven't actually tried brutal greens but now your guide makes me want to do it. =P~ By popular demand, this signature is back- however I currently do not have a blog up at the moment and if I did I wouldn't update it. Sorry, the sig links to nowhere :( . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Thanks for the responce :) If you want, you could borrow my dragon drop logs from my blog, I record every single drop from my KBD hunts, black dragons, iron dragons, and steel dragons. It could give people an idea of what they would recieve after x amount of kills. I even have a picture of a visage drop if you need it. :wink: I really appreciate the offer, but for the moment I'm not planning on a KBD or a metal dragon section. KBD never really caught on to me and there are multiple high quality metal dragon guides already. I'll keep it in consideration for when I start on the black dragon section. A few details though on the guide. On some parts the information starts to get a tad boring, as if the sentences seem to be trailing on. This kind of boredom can cause people to skip over some paragraphs, searching for what they really need: short, to the point information. Try cutting out the important snippets and perhaps using a bit more bullets. Bullets seem to catch people's attention if they look short and important. I tried to avoid that, but these are the first guides (or anything near a guide) I've written, so I probably did go on a bit too much. I'll try cut it down to keep it short and sweet, first some time to relax though after writing up the brutal guide in a day :P Thanks for the reply :XD: A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddavy2004 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Awsome guide thanks for sharing about the brutal greens, I might just head there right now if i can raise enough $$ for supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroclixplay Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 nice guide phil i will have to try this. Visage!!! 24/1/08Fire cape acheived 8:48 pm 9/10/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcC Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 thanks for the great guide :) i have started going to brutal greens now. need to collect 1.8k bones haha. that should leave me with 3.6k hides :) thats a nice bit of crafting xp :) then i will alch them for the cash :P or sell to f2p i think that makes me more? but thanks again :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonpost Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 A few notes from my own trials. I'm a 126 wearing guth plate, guth skirt, guth helm, dragonfire shield, fury, drag boots, barrow gloves, whip, fire cape, ring of wealth. I get +380 slash defense with that. Well, Here are the best and worst results of a few trips I did. My inventory was composed of: laws, waters, rune axe, anti fire, super attk, super str, 905 gp to start out with. I dropped all but the runes and axe before I left. Best trip: 8:51:30 start at ardy 9:05:30 stop at ardy ate 4 lobsters used 2 doses of antifire potions used 1 dose of super pots 12 bones, 13 hides, 8 rune arrows, 3 chocolate cakes That comes out to about 300k/hour. (bones 2,300 each and hides 3,500 each) Worst trip: trip 2: 9:14:30 start at ardy 9:30:00 end ate 10 lobsters used 2 doses of antifire used 1 dose of super pots 12 bones, 13 hides, no other good loot 257k/hour Also, the max I was hit for was 14 damage. I'd also like to point out that blue dragons are about 400k gp per hour (using the agility shortcut and falador west fall shortcut) if NO ONE is there, for me. However, seeing as that place is almost always full to the brink, it's worse than red dragons (and less fun one might say). If you can get one spawn to yourself in a world with about 1,000 people...then I get about 250k/hour at blue dragons tops. I just thought I'd give some input. :) Runescape Name: "unbug07"Expand your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwasha Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Great guides! I also love the idea/goal. :D 9.9/10 on both (nothing is perfect) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 I've shortened and corrected a few things so it doesn't get too boring when reading through the entire guide, thanks mario :) Additionally, I've thrown in a few animated GIFs in there for the heck of it, replacing the old dragon attack pictures. Thanks to Da_Latios for his guide on how to. I'd also like to point out that blue dragons are about 400k gp per hour (using the agility shortcut and falador west fall shortcut) if NO ONE is there, for me. However, seeing as that place is almost always full to the brink, it's worse than red dragons (and less fun one might say). If you can get one spawn to yourself in a world with about 1,000 people...then I get about 250k/hour at blue dragons tops. I just thought I'd give some input. :) Thanks for the input, I was confused for like 5mins thinking you were talking about brutals :lol: Blue dragons are indeed extremely good if you're alone, but then again I can't recall the last time I saw the place without seeing another 3-5 people there. Unfortunately I can't use the agil shortcut (as I'd imagine majority wouldn't) so I'd rather be in the enclave, which could very much so be even slower (though probably not slower if you can't use the shortcut. I'll have to look into that when I get around to blue dragons). A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3warr1or Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 bookmarked.. :P Click My Signature For Training Guide/LSK respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluu247 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 good guide, but wouldn't xbow be better than rune crossbow? just a suggestion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 good guide, but wouldn't xbow be better than rune crossbow? just a suggestion.... You can definetly use a Karil xbow as a replacement but the amunition is too expensive here (due to it always breaking when shot), you should use good weapon but nothing that is going to negate a large amount of profits you make. As a rough estimate I'd say you might require 200-400 bolt racks per trip which is pretty expensive when compared to the 50-75 addy bolts. Next guide is in the making :) A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Can't wait : [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 V1.2 released, now including black dragons. Additionally I added a profit graph so people can choose which dragon they want to try out without having to read through everything. It's dawning on me that I should have made another post incase I hit the word limit because I'm currently over 42k words :ohnoes: Enjoy, the last time I trained there was a few months after RFD and I'm AMAZED at the crowds this place has attracted. A Tip.Iter I saw there told me it happened mainly at the realease of visages which I see as believable. Still a nice place to train though, I remember it's where I got my crystal bow bows recharge from 900k to 180k without spending a terribly large amount if anything. A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Great guide! :thumbsup: However, I like the brutals and Reds better. Mostly because theres nothing new in the black dragon guide that I didn't already know. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 Great guide! :thumbsup: However, I like the brutals and Reds better. Mostly because theres nothing new in the black dragon guide that I didn't already know. That's the problem, I'm having trouble finding something new for the rest of the dragons. I'm still making them because you can compare them and choose which is the best for you. Blue dragons are hunted everywhere and I don't know what's happening with green dragons now, with some spots removed for them I've seen them heavily crowded and don't know what spots still exist and which are crowded or not. A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Great guide! :thumbsup: However, I like the brutals and Reds better. Mostly because theres nothing new in the black dragon guide that I didn't already know. That's the problem, I'm having trouble finding something new for the rest of the dragons. I'm still making them because you can compare them and choose which is the best for you. Blue dragons are hunted everywhere and I don't know what's happening with green dragons now, with some spots removed for them I've seen them heavily crowded and don't know what spots still exist and which are crowded or not. You might want to try Mith dragons? [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer_Jesse Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 v nice guide! however, i have a question. im lvl 111, with 72 pray, and with pure sup sets, i can kill a full oad of blues usign no p pots in my best prayer gear, in ogre enclave. do u think you could run a test to compare profit of this method to other dragons? [hide=Siggy credits]The Awesome, Epic, Amazing, S3xah A-10 Sig By Unolexi! I wub u Uno!InsanityV2 Did the Franz Ferdinand Sig.Killerwatt is responsible for the Arctic Monkeys sig.Pat_61 did the B-2 sig and the raptor sig.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 With the release of summoning I figure it would make sense to list how well each dragon drops the new "charms", the most tedious item to retrieve for training summoning. Currently I've made a list for brutal green dragons, they seem pretty good for me. They drop 2 charms per charm drop and have a frequent rate of dropping charms. I'll soon add this to the guide, I'm too tired to dig through all of it right now :) 1 - Gold 2 - Gold 3 - Crimson 4 - Nothing 5 - Nothing 6 - Green 7 - Gold ------------------ 8 - Green 9 - Green 10 - Gold 11 - Crimson 12 - Gold 13 - Nothing 14 - Gold ------------------ 15 - Nothing 16 - Nothing 17 - Nothing 18 - Nothing 19 - Green 20 - Nothing 21 - Gold ------------------ 22 - Gold 23 - Crimson 24 - Crimson 25 - Nothing 26 - Green 27 - Gold 28 - Green ------------------ 29 - Green 30 - Green 31 - Gold ==================ONE HOUR================== -------------------Rates-------------------- Charm drop percentage: 71.0% --- Gold drop percentage (including nothing): 32.3% Green drop percentage (including nothing): 29.0% Crimson drop percentage (including nothing): 16.1% --- Gold drop percentage (not including nothing): 41.7% Green drop percentage (not including nothing): 37.5% Crimson drop percentage (not including nothing): 20.8% --- Gold charms per hour: 20 Green charms per hour: 18 Crimson charms per hour: 10 ============================================ 32 - Green 33 - Gold 34 - Nothing 35 - Nothing v nice guide! however, i have a question. im lvl 111, with 72 pray, and with pure sup sets, i can kill a full oad of blues usign no p pots in my best prayer gear, in ogre enclave. do u think you could run a test to compare profit of this method to other dragons? We're exactly the same combat and exactly the same prayer level, so if you wanted your question answered earlier your findings would probably be just as accurate as mine would be when compared to other dragons :) Blue dragons will probably be my next one, I'm interested as to how much it will vary from crowds. Maybe I'll record two times where I only get one spawn and another for when I get two spawns all for myself. :-k You might want to try Mith dragons? I'm not much for making metal dragon guides, there are so many great guides for them out there now I don't know how I would ever be able to expand on them. I do reguarly fight them so perhaps I'll try a guide after I'm done with my goal of having all leather dragons. Thanks : A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel99 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 awesome guide, 14.5/10 my old account got deleted when the new forum came so too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettrider Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 This was priceless. I recommend bringing a Beast of Burden. Personally I used pack yak scrolls to bank all hides. 2496 Completionist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 Nice to see someone trying them out :P I haven't made changes in the guide for summoning because I stopped playing Runescape for awhile (came back 'bout 2 weeks ago). I'll look into new setups using summoning. Grats on the red dragon egg, I guess their pretty rare? ;) A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathmath Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Good guide, many different methods, just a good all around guide. 8/10, I'll have to try some of it out. Thoroughly retired, may still write now and again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckellingc Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Nice use of numbers, nice use of safespots, nice guide overall 10/10 There is no way to make "Millions fast and easy"... SO QUIT ASKING ABOUT IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentry_Wolf Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Good to know this pure awesome guide is back. Brillant guide. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneFrank Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 8/10 Very nice guide but in the black dragons part.. I found ''The following is replaceable Weapon: Rune Xbow > Dragon halberd Helm: Robin > Archer <---would it be Robin>God Coif?(i know they have pretty good range attack) Amulet: Fury > Glory Body & Legs: Black d hide > Karil (Armadyl is better then black hide i think) Shield: Zamorak book > DFS > Anti-dragon shield. Cape: Accumulator > Anything Shoes: Ranger > Snake Gloves: Best RFD you got Barrows gloves give best range attack then black vamps.. so i think it should be B Gloves>Black Vambs>best Rfd Ring: Archer > Row > Rol Nice guide i felt like posting something that might help you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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