Zombie Plans-Revised

[Da_Latios]

How about a halberd?

 

[decebal]

(I'm just bored right now), but what if you use a low pitched or a high pitched frequency that humans cannot hear, but zombies do? I know it works fairly well on dogs, and if we do this, we might be able to defeat the zombies :P .

 

 

 

Or create a new strain of virus, made to attack the zombie virus' RNA, completely obliterating it and destroying the virus cells.

 

 

 

Is it even possible to create a cancer cell out of a virus?

 

The former requires us to keep zombies where we can perform studies while they are concious and unsedated, the latter requires testing on a zombie by cutting open it's skull, meaning we will need to keep a very clean work station, as the fluids from it could potentially infect us....

 

You CANNOT win a war without some intelligence (meaning spying and finding out about the enemy), if the zombies are smart enough to create a base (which they couldn't unless the neocromancer or whatever lives there), we should try to spy on it, if not, we NEED to find out more about the zombies, so a full autopsy would be needed.

 

 

 

Also...

 

I understand the good intentions you mean by creating a virus, to fight a virus. But, we don't want to create anything that could possibly come back and bite us. Virus's are unpredictable, which is why we can't cure them. The potential risk of a virus is to high, and if we are in the middle of something like a war with zombies, time for the proper research isn't on our side.

 

 

 

The easiest way is the most classic one also, guns. There are plenty of them, and ammunition is readily available.

 

 

 

For your first point: creating the virus for the virus will NOT affect us, because the virus WE are creating is made to attack RNA (Ribo nucleic acid) which is the DNA of most viruses, a simpler version of the DNA really. The only way it would affect us is if we also have RNA in our bodies. Don't forget that if the zombie virus actually exists, it will mutagenically alter the human body of the zombie, ultimately creating an artificial species. It's kind of how we don't get the diseases of cows, or how Native Americans died from smallpox from European settles.

 

 

 

As for using guns, it is a very inefficient way to kill ALL zombies. For the short term, yes, guns come in useful to anihilate the good ol' zombies around the block, but the other zombies could still infect other humans, using humans to reproduce. Not everybody has guns, and certainly not everyone is adept at using guns. What you are saying is that we should go mindlessly killing zombies. It porbably will take a long time, don't forget that.

 

 

 

Damn, pretty sure I know all of this stuff from a game I play -.-

[Furah]

(I'm just bored right now), but what if you use a low pitched or a high pitched frequency that humans cannot hear, but zombies do? I know it works fairly well on dogs, and if we do this, we might be able to defeat the zombies :P .

 

 

 

Or create a new strain of virus, made to attack the zombie virus' RNA, completely obliterating it and destroying the virus cells.

 

 

 

Is it even possible to create a cancer cell out of a virus?

 

The former requires us to keep zombies where we can perform studies while they are concious and unsedated, the latter requires testing on a zombie by cutting open it's skull, meaning we will need to keep a very clean work station, as the fluids from it could potentially infect us....

 

You CANNOT win a war without some intelligence (meaning spying and finding out about the enemy), if the zombies are smart enough to create a base (which they couldn't unless the neocromancer or whatever lives there), we should try to spy on it, if not, we NEED to find out more about the zombies, so a full autopsy would be needed.

 

I forgot to say in my post "while keeping the zombie alive" as a dead zombie would be useless to test the effects of viruses and chemicals on their brains. To find out more about zombies why not just put them in a research area, the old fashion prison cells (metal bars preventing the zombies from escaping while allowing us to easily see them and also test them, as we could keep most things outside the cells and still have the zombies be able to react with it, such as have people standing a few steps away from the cage, and watching how the zombies act while trying to get that person.)

[ProtoGuy]

(I'm just bored right now), but what if you use a low pitched or a high pitched frequency that humans cannot hear, but zombies do? I know it works fairly well on dogs, and if we do this, we might be able to defeat the zombies :P .

 

 

 

Or create a new strain of virus, made to attack the zombie virus' RNA, completely obliterating it and destroying the virus cells.

 

 

 

Is it even possible to create a cancer cell out of a virus?

 

The former requires us to keep zombies where we can perform studies while they are concious and unsedated, the latter requires testing on a zombie by cutting open it's skull, meaning we will need to keep a very clean work station, as the fluids from it could potentially infect us....

 

You CANNOT win a war without some intelligence (meaning spying and finding out about the enemy), if the zombies are smart enough to create a base (which they couldn't unless the neocromancer or whatever lives there), we should try to spy on it, if not, we NEED to find out more about the zombies, so a full autopsy would be needed.

 

I forgot to say in my post "while keeping the zombie alive" as a dead zombie would be useless to test the effects of viruses and chemicals on their brains. To find out more about zombies why not just put them in a research area, the old fashion prison cells (metal bars preventing the zombies from escaping while allowing us to easily see them and also test them, as we could keep most things outside the cells and still have the zombies be able to react with it, such as have people standing a few steps away from the cage, and watching how the zombies act while trying to get that person.)

 

True, and it isn't as if we need to show sympathy for them, so Sworddude would be perfect for this task.

[Furah]

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(I'm just bored right now), but what if you use a low pitched or a high pitched frequency that humans cannot hear, but zombies do? I know it works fairly well on dogs, and if we do this, we might be able to defeat the zombies :P .

 

 

 

Or create a new strain of virus, made to attack the zombie virus' RNA, completely obliterating it and destroying the virus cells.

 

 

 

Is it even possible to create a cancer cell out of a virus?

 

The former requires us to keep zombies where we can perform studies while they are concious and unsedated, the latter requires testing on a zombie by cutting open it's skull, meaning we will need to keep a very clean work station, as the fluids from it could potentially infect us....

 

You CANNOT win a war without some intelligence (meaning spying and finding out about the enemy), if the zombies are smart enough to create a base (which they couldn't unless the neocromancer or whatever lives there), we should try to spy on it, if not, we NEED to find out more about the zombies, so a full autopsy would be needed.

 

I forgot to say in my post "while keeping the zombie alive" as a dead zombie would be useless to test the effects of viruses and chemicals on their brains. To find out more about zombies why not just put them in a research area, the old fashion prison cells (metal bars preventing the zombies from escaping while allowing us to easily see them and also test them, as we could keep most things outside the cells and still have the zombies be able to react with it, such as have people standing a few steps away from the cage, and watching how the zombies act while trying to get that person.)

 

True, and it isn't as if we need to show sympathy for them, so Sworddude would be perfect for this task.

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That would be a waste, finding someone who is unable to fight or cannot stand killing would be better suited to the job.

[EdgedThesis]

Okay, so I understand that plasma swords are a little impractical and, with the required portable power source, a little bulky.

 

 

 

But it cauterizes wounds and prevents bleeding while completely obliterating nervous tissue.

 

 

 

I say sword just because they are badass, you say rifle because they are actually useful.

 

 

 

So lets combine the two. A rifle that operates under the same plasma-capturing magnetic field technology, and instead of keeping the burning substance as a coherent blade, you shoot it.

 

 

 

Badassery and pragmatism packaged into one (presumably chrome and sleek) weapon of zombie destruction.

 

 

 

Hell, when things get hairy in a close combat situation you could disrupt the field with a magnet yourself, and watch how the barrel of your gun spits diffuse fire into the crowd.

 

 

 

Though when it bounces off of surfaces and into your face, things could get problematic.

[Furah]

Okay, so I understand that plasma swords are a little impractical and, with the required portable power source, a little bulky.

 

 

 

But it cauterizes wounds and prevents bleeding while completely obliterating nervous tissue.

 

 

 

I say sword just because they are badass, you say rifle because they are actually useful.

 

 

 

So lets combine the two. A rifle that operates under the same plasma-capturing magnetic field technology, and instead of keeping the burning substance as a coherent blade, you shoot it.

 

 

 

Badassery and pragmatism packaged into one (presumably chrome and sleek) weapon of zombie destruction.

 

 

 

Hell, when things get hairy in a close combat situation you could disrupt the field with a magnet yourself, and watch how the barrel of your gun spits diffuse fire into the crowd.

 

 

 

Though when it bounces off of surfaces and into your face, things could get problematic.

 

 

 

We say rifle as they are cheap, already in a big enough production, and in the US it isn't too hard to find a store that sells ammo. Where are we going to find enough power to power plasma weapons long enough to kill the zombies. Infact where would we get such weapons? That alone will be near impossible for us, converting it to a projectile will be harder then asking all the zombies to jump headfirst off a tall building.

[Wisp]

BILLIONS of dollars have gone into research for diseases like AIDS and Cancer. We are not realistically near a cure for any of them. The zombie virus is worse. The virus itself kills almost any other living thing, including bacteria and other viruses, which is why they don't decay. We would first need to find something that can survive the virus, which may be impossible in of itself, then make it so something with that property could kill the zombie, or the virus. Since the virus destroys the brain and rebuilds it, there is no cure

 

Making a virus is also ridiculous. If it mutates at all, it could be disastrous. Any variance in the zombie virus from zombie to zombie would also make it useless. Plus, try getting the virus to all the zombies. You can't just spray a gas all over the world (Would be crazy inefficient too) and zombies respiratory systems don't go to their brains, they don't have a bloodflow, the disease wouldn't spread to they're brains, unless it were injected directly into their brains. If we would have to do that, then USE A GUN. It kills them, with no chance of failure.

 

Making a virus to counter it would take years, if it was even possible. Billions would be needed.

 

In order to produce enough bullets to kill 6 billion zombies, it would cost under a billion dollars. Way cheaper. Way more effective. No chance of failure, compared to a virus.

 

 

 

And plasma? Are you kidding me? You'd need a nuclear power plant to power enough rifles to be mildly effective for a small force of people.

[bubbyjoe2]

I don't think creating a virus to destroy the zombie virus would be effective.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, for a temporary hideout, something as simply constructed as a treehouse, or even just a flat wooden platform built around a tall tree could work. If you have an accurate firearm that could be used to snipe any zombies (with a silencer so other zombies in the forest are not alerted to your presence) enough bullets, food, and water to last you until your comrades rescue you, you probably woudn't need to worry about any zombies. If you need to escape, you could attach a long pipe to the treehouse, and coat it in some slippery substance. You'd be able to slide down, but zombies wouldn't be able to climb up.

[Seraphi]

I do believe I have found a major flaw in our plans.

 

Zombie animals.

 

We do not have any plans prepared for contact with zombie dogs, cats, tigers, birds, fish.....

 

Also, Da latios suggested using a halberd as a weapon, I actually like this idea, since you can get enough power behind the blade to take a zombies head or torso off instantly, though there is some worry of carrying it around.

[Sir_Redhead]

BILLIONS of dollars have gone into research for diseases like AIDS and Cancer. We are not realistically near a cure for any of them. The zombie virus is worse. The virus itself kills almost any other living thing, including bacteria and other viruses, which is why they don't decay. We would first need to find something that can survive the virus, which may be impossible in of itself, then make it so something with that property could kill the zombie, or the virus. Since the virus destroys the brain and rebuilds it, there is no cure

 

Making a virus is also ridiculous. If it mutates at all, it could be disastrous. Any variance in the zombie virus from zombie to zombie would also make it useless. Plus, try getting the virus to all the zombies. You can't just spray a gas all over the world (Would be crazy inefficient too) and zombies respiratory systems don't go to their brains, they don't have a bloodflow, the disease wouldn't spread to they're brains, unless it were injected directly into their brains. If we would have to do that, then USE A GUN. It kills them, with no chance of failure.

 

Making a virus to counter it would take years, if it was even possible. Billions would be needed.

 

In order to produce enough bullets to kill 6 billion zombies, it would cost under a billion dollars. Way cheaper. Way more effective. No chance of failure, compared to a virus.

 

 

 

And plasma? Are you kidding me? You'd need a nuclear power plant to power enough rifles to be mildly effective for a small force of people.

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly, the risk of a virus is far to high, also if we are being attacked by zombies, money and time aren't exactly on our side. Guns are exactly the way to go, I'd feel much safer shooting zombies with a shotgun, then holding a seringe full of some so called "Zombie killing virus" No way I'm going to let one get close enough to me to stab it in the head with that.(Only way it would be remotely successful)

 

 

 

For your first point: creating the virus for the virus will NOT affect us, because the virus WE are creating is made to attack RNA (Ribo nucleic acid) which is the DNA of most viruses, a simpler version of the DNA really. The only way it would affect us is if we also have RNA in our bodies. Don't forget that if the zombie virus actually exists, it will mutagenically alter the human body of the zombie, ultimately creating an artificial species. It's kind of how we don't get the diseases of cows, or how Native Americans died from smallpox from European settles.

 

 

 

As for using guns, it is a very inefficient way to kill ALL zombies. For the short term, yes, guns come in useful to anihilate the good ol' zombies around the block, but the other zombies could still infect other humans, using humans to reproduce. Not everybody has guns, and certainly not everyone is adept at using guns. What you are saying is that we should go mindlessly killing zombies. It porbably will take a long time, don't forget that

 

 

 

It's to risky, the only thing we humans can do to predict, and possibly counter a virus is to guess which strain it will be when it hits. They are unpredictable. I'm not saying to go mindlessly killing them, I'm thinking defence wise. Yes, it can also be an offencive option, but your thoughts about creating a virus to kill them has to many risks.

[PlzPuddngPlz]

I do believe I have found a major flaw in our plans.

 

Zombie animals.

 

We do not have any plans prepared for contact with zombie dogs, cats, tigers, birds, fish.....

 

Also, Da latios suggested using a halberd as a weapon, I actually like this idea, since you can get enough power behind the blade to take a zombies head or torso off instantly, though there is some worry of carrying it around.

 

 

 

READ.

 

THE.

 

GUIDE.

 

I thought you had, but I'll say this anyways.

 

ONLY HUMANS REANIMATE. Other animals die before the virus can mutate their brains

[EdgedThesis]

Zombie fighting.

 

 

 

Serious business.

 

 

 

 

 

Haha, I actually enjoy all of you enthusiasm in this.

 

Can't be long before an actual zombie apocalypse, and its good to be prepared.

 

 

 

Of course by that time, we hopefully WILL have plasma weaponry.

 

That's the last time I'll speak of plasma, don't maul me.

[Wisp]

I'd stick too an old fashioned gun anyway. Plasma requires energy. Guns require bullets. Plasma would also probably require a cartridge or some sort of ammunition. Plus, if a gun jams, or breaks, you can almost always fix it. I doubt anyone could fix a plasma gun.

 

 

 

Another great temporary camp:

 

Tennis court. Big, 20 foot chainlink walls all around. They might not hold off an enormous horde for long, but if you need to camp somewhere for a night, you'd be safe. Better than in a building, since you'd have to clear the building first.

[EdgedThesis]

Good point.

 

 

 

I guess its just that there's something poetic about cutting flaming swaths through the crude matter of rotting flesh, bone, and brain--a beauty to the purity of fire and light as it slices a path through living dead.

 

 

 

Too bad that combat is not a song, or even a dance.

[Seraphi]

I do believe I have found a major flaw in our plans.

 

Zombie animals.

 

We do not have any plans prepared for contact with zombie dogs, cats, tigers, birds, fish.....

 

Also, Da latios suggested using a halberd as a weapon, I actually like this idea, since you can get enough power behind the blade to take a zombies head or torso off instantly, though there is some worry of carrying it around.

 

 

 

READ.

 

THE.

 

GUIDE.

 

I thought you had, but I'll say this anyways.

 

ONLY HUMANS REANIMATE. Other animals die before the virus can mutate their brains

 

I have read most of it, but it was ages ago and I can't remember much... :?

 

I'll go try to dig it out of the cupboard.

[BlackDawn]

I do believe I have found a major flaw in our plans.

 

Zombie animals.

 

We do not have any plans prepared for contact with zombie dogs, cats, tigers, birds, fish.....

 

Also, Da latios suggested using a halberd as a weapon, I actually like this idea, since you can get enough power behind the blade to take a zombies head or torso off instantly, though there is some worry of carrying it around.

 

 

 

READ.

 

THE.

 

GUIDE.

 

I thought you had, but I'll say this anyways.

 

ONLY HUMANS REANIMATE. Other animals die before the virus can mutate their brains

 

I have read most of it, but it was ages ago and I can't remember much... :?

 

I'll go try to dig it out of the cupboard.

 

CUPBOARD!?!? NO!!! We must keep the guide near us at all times! For example right now the guide is sitting right next to me on the computer desk.

[Kiriyama]

Just thought of something.

 

 

 

If we were travelling light, such as scouting, would it not be a benefit for the scouts to be able to do some parkour movements? Its about getting from point A-B efficiently, is it not? So if they way ahead was clear, and the zombies were behind you, the ability to get past obstacles and such, would be a benefit in escaping, as they have to go around, while we go over. Okay, so this kind of came about cause I'm considering trying Parkour, it looks pretty interesting.

[Sir_Redhead]

I do believe I have found a major flaw in our plans.

 

Zombie animals.

 

We do not have any plans prepared for contact with zombie dogs, cats, tigers, birds, fish.....

 

Also, Da latios suggested using a halberd as a weapon, I actually like this idea, since you can get enough power behind the blade to take a zombies head or torso off instantly, though there is some worry of carrying it around.

 

 

 

READ.

 

THE.

 

GUIDE.

 

I thought you had, but I'll say this anyways.

 

ONLY HUMANS REANIMATE. Other animals die before the virus can mutate their brains

 

I have read most of it, but it was ages ago and I can't remember much... :?

 

I'll go try to dig it out of the cupboard.

 

CUPBOARD!?!? NO!!! We must keep the guide near us at all times! For example right now the guide is sitting right next to me on the computer desk.

 

 

 

Where would I go about aquireing one of these zombie guides? I would like to read it, it sounds full of erm.....useful information :?

[Guest]

I do believe I have found a major flaw in our plans.

 

Zombie animals.

 

We do not have any plans prepared for contact with zombie dogs, cats, tigers, birds, fish.....

 

Also, Da latios suggested using a halberd as a weapon, I actually like this idea, since you can get enough power behind the blade to take a zombies head or torso off instantly, though there is some worry of carrying it around.

 

 

 

READ.

 

THE.

 

GUIDE.

 

I thought you had, but I'll say this anyways.

 

ONLY HUMANS REANIMATE. Other animals die before the virus can mutate their brains

 

I have read most of it, but it was ages ago and I can't remember much... :?

 

I'll go try to dig it out of the cupboard.

 

CUPBOARD!?!? NO!!! We must keep the guide near us at all times! For example right now the guide is sitting right next to me on the computer desk.

 

 

 

Where would I go about aquireing one of these zombie guides? I would like to read it, it sounds full of erm.....useful information :?

 

 

 

If only you knew. I'd try and find a downloadable version, thats what I have.

 

 

 

Also, Da latios suggested using a halberd as a weapon, I actually like this idea, since you can get enough power behind the blade to take a zombies head or torso off instantly, though there is some worry of carrying it around.

 

 

 

Problem is weight. If you miss, it can take a long time to swing again, or, depending on how heavy it is, it could completly knock you off balance.

[Lenin64]

The only way it would affect us is if we also have RNA in our bodies.

 

Which we do. In your cells, it's actually a vital part of DNA reproduction if I remember my frshman biology class. Ribsomes use it.

[Wisp]

I do believe I have found a major flaw in our plans.

 

Zombie animals.

 

We do not have any plans prepared for contact with zombie dogs, cats, tigers, birds, fish.....

 

Also, Da latios suggested using a halberd as a weapon, I actually like this idea, since you can get enough power behind the blade to take a zombies head or torso off instantly, though there is some worry of carrying it around.

 

 

 

READ.

 

THE.

 

GUIDE.

 

I thought you had, but I'll say this anyways.

 

ONLY HUMANS REANIMATE. Other animals die before the virus can mutate their brains

 

I have read most of it, but it was ages ago and I can't remember much... :?

 

I'll go try to dig it out of the cupboard.

 

CUPBOARD!?!? NO!!! We must keep the guide near us at all times! For example right now the guide is sitting right next to me on the computer desk.

 

 

 

 

 

Where would I go about aquireing one of these zombie guides? I would like to read it, it sounds full of erm.....useful information :?

 

 

 

If only you knew. I'd try and find a downloadable version, thats what I have.

 

 

 

Also, Da latios suggested using a halberd as a weapon, I actually like this idea, since you can get enough power behind the blade to take a zombies head or torso off instantly, though there is some worry of carrying it around.

 

 

 

Problem is weight. If you miss, it can take a long time to swing again, or, depending on how heavy it is, it could completly knock you off balance.

 

Halberd would work at a certain distance, and only that. It's a few feet away from you. You know what also works, is less rare, is easier to use, has less chance of failure and is less messy? a gun.

[Sir_Redhead]

Ten zombies stand in front of you about 20ft away, you have two different weapons. A Halberd and a handgun with 15 rounds, which would you choose? Using common sense, I hope all of you would say a gun. A Halberd is heavy and slow, compared to just about any self defence weapon. A gun is simply hands down, the best way to defend yourself.

[Furah]

Just thought of something.

 

 

 

If we were travelling light, such as scouting, would it not be a benefit for the scouts to be able to do some parkour movements? Its about getting from point A-B efficiently, is it not? So if they way ahead was clear, and the zombies were behind you, the ability to get past obstacles and such, would be a benefit in escaping, as they have to go around, while we go over. Okay, so this kind of came about cause I'm considering trying Parkour, it looks pretty interesting.

 

 

 

Good point, I better get back into shape then.

[ProtoGuy]

Dbzruler is pretty good at freerunning tbh.