http://www.personalpowermeditation.com/forum/social-dynamics/learning-to-touch-women

That just reminds me of Of Mice and Men.

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This one cracked me up:

I therefore first really learned to touch via mood-altering drugs. MDMA, the original "hug drug", is easily the best for this. However, tramadol (easily obtainable and semi-legal in most countries) is an excellent substitute for generating a touching mood (it's not much like MDMA in the more extreme pro-social, pro-sexual effects).

Dafuq did I just read? :-s

Hopefully he took himself instead of using them on other people

You guys are forgetting to incorporate push/pull.

 

You have to tug her hair, then shove her into a wall. That's how you get the ladies.

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This one cracked me up:

I therefore first really learned to touch via mood-altering drugs. MDMA, the original "hug drug", is easily the best for this. However, tramadol (easily obtainable and semi-legal in most countries) is an excellent substitute for generating a touching mood (it's not much like MDMA in the more extreme pro-social, pro-sexual effects).

Dafuq did I just read? :-s

 

Not sure why that confuses you >_>

 

His post makes a lot of sense and was very helpful to me.

I'm glad we've all reached the point in our knowledge that we can joke about these things and not worry about anyone actually going around rag dolling women at clubs by their elbows.

 

@Kalphite:

"date" is more appropriate for your age group. Post-highschool, if a girl can't handle a date, there's other things you need to be thinking about.

First kiss is always awkward. Build up is essential, but feel free to tell her youre nervous and when shee asks why, just kiss her. Off guard is the new cute.

 

PROTIP: If she agrees to a "date" with you she'll likely expect a kiss. (I'm a huge fan of the good night kiss)

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This one cracked me up:

I therefore first really learned to touch via mood-altering drugs. MDMA, the original "hug drug", is easily the best for this. However, tramadol (easily obtainable and semi-legal in most countries) is an excellent substitute for generating a touching mood (it's not much like MDMA in the more extreme pro-social, pro-sexual effects).

Dafuq did I just read? :-s

 

Not sure why that confuses you >_>

 

His post makes a lot of sense and was very helpful to me.

 

So you agree with needing to resort to drug use to pick up women?

Personally I don't see anything wrong with taking drugs to accelerate the learning process, as long as you don't become dependent upon them.

 

I have a feeling that you didn't read the post which Ginger quoted. Here it is, with Ginger's excerpt struck through (if you read the following sentence, he even states that his advice is intended for those who do not do drugs):

 

This is an extremely common problem amongst "cerebral" guys like us. Rather than being prescriptive, I'm going to give you my general thoughts on the whole thing, and then what I did to handle it.

 

Firstly, the desire to touch must come from your mood. Cerebral guys commonly get caught in the "thinking mode", and touch is not a welcome guest in that world.

 

I therefore first really learned to touch via mood-altering drugs. MDMA, the original "hug drug", is easily the best for this. However, tramadol (easily obtainable and semi-legal in most countries) is an excellent substitute for generating a touching mood (it's not much like MDMA in the more extreme pro-social, pro-sexual effects).

 

However, you can certainly figure out touching by simply learning to get more in touch with your emotions in the moment. Even a couple of drinks can help here. The next part of my reply will focus on times when you are not on MDMA/tramadol/other "hug drugs".

 

The thing to notice is that your body comes fully hardwired for touching. It knows when you are supposed to touch the girl. It sends you a little "signal". You feel this as intuition. When you feel that feeling like you want to touch the girl, then that is actually the perfect moment when you are supposed to be doing it. She feels it too. It's natural. Same goes for kissing, and all sexual escalation. You "know" when to do it.

 

Cerebral guys however get stuck having an internal dialogue about that impulse, and this often prevents it forming action (if you let it). By the way, this dialogue you have with yourself is your "interpreter" -- the part of you which gives a logical voice to your feelings and impulses, in an attempt to understand them and fit them in with its "plan". Cerebral guys are stuck with this interpreter jibber-jabbering all the time, often stymieing action.

 

Action is an excellent breaker for this however! When you get the impulse to touch, you must simply do it. You will probably have to force yourself to do it the first few times, but it will start to sink in and become normal for you. At this point you will be able to move with your emotions and find yourself doing more and more of the "right thing" without "thinking". You really are looking for a movement from thinking to feeling, and this should be looked at as an excellent opportunity to cultivate that.

 

Here are some more "breakers", for ending logical thought-chains, if you do often find yourself in deep thinking which is hindering action and emotional flow:

 

1) Take several short, forceful bursts of breath.

Deep thought suppresses breathing -- this wakes the body back up.

 

2) Practise now to see if you can make your eyes go into rapid eye movement (REM) voluntarily. Most people find that they can, if they just give it a try. When you get stuck in deep thought, go into voluntary REM with your eyes lightly closed for several seconds.

Thought activates eye movements in specific patterns. By going into REM you break up those patterns and it prevents thoughts from forming, and breaks apart any thought chains currently running.

 

3) When thinking, you will tend to clench your jaw. Release your jaw so your mouth hangs open just a tiny bit, and also relax your tongue. Verbal thought is, literally, just very, very quiet speaking (if you pay attention you will notice that you tongue "pulses" a little whilst thinking verbally). By relaxing your speaking apparatus, you will exit thought. At this point, put awareness in your body and breathe. I advise you practise this regularly, starting now.

 

You will have to figure out which of these you "need" and when to do them. The idea is simply to restore some emotional flow to your socializing by breaking up deep thought when it becomes a problem. I recommend the jaw release followed by breathing naturally through your nose as the easiest, least noticeable, and most natural-feeling breaker.

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This one cracked me up:

I therefore first really learned to touch via mood-altering drugs. MDMA, the original "hug drug", is easily the best for this. However, tramadol (easily obtainable and semi-legal in most countries) is an excellent substitute for generating a touching mood (it's not much like MDMA in the more extreme pro-social, pro-sexual effects).

Dafuq did I just read? :-s

 

Not sure why that confuses you >_>

 

His post makes a lot of sense and was very helpful to me.

 

So you agree with needing to resort to drug use to pick up women?

 

That's not what the poster was saying. Have you ever taken MDMA or any other drug? If yes, you'll understand the altered thinking pattern your brain inherits. Just imagine like you're on MDMA again and how you acted, and how you thought. How smooth and happy everything felt. Even if you haven't experienced it first hand, ask people have for detailed descriptions. Junkies love describing their habits, it's not hard information to get a hold of.

http://www.personalp...-to-touch-women

This one cracked me up:

I therefore first really learned to touch via mood-altering drugs. MDMA, the original "hug drug", is easily the best for this. However, tramadol (easily obtainable and semi-legal in most countries) is an excellent substitute for generating a touching mood (it's not much like MDMA in the more extreme pro-social, pro-sexual effects).

Dafuq did I just read? :-s

 

Not sure why that confuses you >_>

 

His post makes a lot of sense and was very helpful to me.

 

So you agree with needing to resort to drug use to pick up women?

Not any less than I do with needing to have coffee in the morning or needing to write things on paper to remember them.

At first, I thought it was to stimulate the "hugging mood" of the other person. Phew, lets not stab needles into other peoples' necks. :razz:

The post didn't confuse me.

 

I do, however, find it difficult taking anyone who recommends taking ecstasy seriously, even if only for personal experimentation, simply because it is so dangerous. If his post isn't intended for drug users, and he was attempting to reference the subjective experience that MDMA would provide, rather than the experience of MDMA use itself, then why even mention it at all or draw attention to it? There's many other ways of making that analogy.

 

In the event his post was taken seriously by drug users, then surely self-help interventions are more effective when they focus on internal factors, such as confidence and self-esteem, than focusing on external factors such as psychoactive drug use.

Build up is essential, but feel free to tell her youre nervous and when shee asks why, just kiss her. Off guard is the new cute.

 

Random thread misclick but I'm glad I came here. This man understands.

Build up is essential, but feel free to tell her youre nervous and when shee asks why, just kiss her. Off guard is the new cute.

 

Off guard has always been the "cute" way of doing it lol.

 

Also, this weekend i came to realise that it's a bad idea hitting on girls when wearing a wedding ring. Although i managed to get at last 2 grils' numbers, at the end of the night i also got slapped by one girl, and another one almost threw her drink at me :lol:

All in all it was pretty easy to make things happen, you just need to ask a few questions before she gets the chance to start asking questions. Once you know a bit about her, you can build your lie around that.

Seems to me it would be easiest to claim to be in an "open relationship" if you're wearing a wedding ring.

Seems to me it would be easiest to claim to be in an "open relationship" if you're wearing a wedding ring.

Or that she died trying to save your life or something and you wear it out of respect.

Bit heavy if you're after a one-nighter!

 

"So sorry your wife died... let's go back to your place?"

I can't seem to have the first kiss with the girl I like. I feel like she wants me too, and I know I want to, but I can never find a good moment/alone. I tried to kiss her once a couple months ago and she kind of moved out of the way so I respected that but now I know that she wants me to kiss her. Any advice?

Yeah i probably should have gone with the open relationship thing. Or "lol we're just married so i can get a greencard."

There is no right or wrong way to get the first kiss. Just get the first one out of the way and hope that she gives you chance for another ones.

Maybe prompt the question when you're alone and saying goodbye to each other one night. Worst she can do is say 'No', and if she lets you, kiss, and you've both got the whole night to get over the shock.

 

It won't be perfect, so don't expect it to be.

Don't ask her for her permission, that turns off a lot of women. Just go for it.

 

The more you've been touching her (and she's been touching you) prior to the kiss, the greater the odds of her wanting to kiss you. Think about it. If you've been holding her hand and rubbing her back for the past hour, and then go in for a kiss, don't you think she'll be a bit more receptive than if you haven't been touching her at all?

...aren't you over-complicating things? It's his first kiss, not a romantic epic. :-|

It doesn't even matter.

Dude, look, that first kiss is never going to be perfect, except in the movies where they get multiple takes for that...

Just do it, it doesn't even matter when, but don't ask if you can do it, just do it. When you say goodbye, when you meet up, simply randomly while dancing... Any situation fits, tbh. And you don't have to be somewhere secluded either, in the middle of the dancing crowd might sometimes be the most private spot in the whole freaking party.

God damn, I feel like a Nike commercial right now :D