Starting to Smoke

[pryomancer]

I don't want people discussing drugs because some people are actually suggesting he should start smoking dope. That's so incredibly immoral I'm actually surprised you thought nothing of it. Cannabis is illegal, and until it isn't, we won't be discussing it.

 

 

 

deloriagod, thank you for enaging in reductio ad absurdium. It's pretty clear why drugs aren't allowed to be discussed.

[Trip]

 

 

 

I smoke.

 

 

 

I think that if you feel the need to relax, smoking is a great way to relieve stress and anxiety. If you want a healthier way to do it, roll your own cigs. A pouch of tobacco gets me 80 cigs out of 5 dollars. After I got sick of spending nearly $5 per pack on Marb Reds, I decided to roll my own. They're not healthy, but they don't have as many chemicals and added junk that filtered cigs do. One or two per day is NOT going to shave that much off your life. It's the people that smoke a pack per day that are killing themselves.

 

 

 

Unfiltered are worse than filtered. Think of all the lovely ash and tar coating your lungs. But, yes, it is a hell of a lot cheaper.

 

 

 

thats why you roll with filters....

 

 

 

to the OP, i recommend not taking up smoking, even a couple a day, it really is incredibly addictive and after a few nights of drinking where you end up smoking a pack it will quickly turn into more than 1 or 2 a day.

 

 

 

even though you probably will start smoking just dont underestimate the addiction, and when you do feel yourself NEEDING one not just feeling like one try and stop there (but you wont, no one does)

[Zierro]

I don't want people discussing drugs because some people are actually suggesting he should start smoking dope. That's so incredibly immoral I'm actually surprised you thought nothing of it. Cannabis is illegal, and until it isn't, we won't be discussing it.

 

 

 

The legality is dependent on your location, but I'm not sure if that effects the TIF rules or not. If someone in Amsterdam posts about it, is it still wrong?

 

 

 

By the way, you never told us why it is immoral. That's a very opinionated and harsh statement. You make us look like heathens. :(

[venomai]

I don't want people discussing drugs because some people are actually suggesting he should start smoking dope. That's so incredibly immoral I'm actually surprised you thought nothing of it.

 

Morality is by no means restricted to the flawed drug laws of the United States. :lol:

 

 

 

Cannabis is illegal, and until it isn't, we won't be discussing it.

 

Yet we are welcome to discuss and even preach of the effects of smoking cigarettes (as others already have done in this thread), simply because it is a legal commodity? :roll:

[Lateralus]

I've been smoking for 4 or 5 years (I think? Time flies when you're having fun). I really do love it. However, there's never a time when I'd recommend picking up the habit. Generally, the people who find smoking relaxing are smokers. There's better, healthier and cheaper ways to relieve stress. If you can accept the health risks and monetary losses (not to mention being a social outcast in some cases) then smoke away, just don't complain when cancer or the banker come a-knockin'.

[Rebdragon]

pyro, if you are doing this on a personal whim rather than mod consensus, dear Lord, I pray for your soul once venomai finishes logically destroying you. Combatting him on the topic of drugs is not a life event which I wish to relive :lol: .

 

 

 

[*I'm not a fan of illegal drugs/tobacco, but I still agree with 'em.]

 

 

 

deloriagod, thank you for enaging in reductio ad absurdium. It's pretty clear why drugs aren't allowed to be discussed.

 

[bleep]. I really hate when people pull Latin out of their [wagon] when they can't even read the language. It's pretentious as heck, especially in the 60% of the cases where the translation doesn't even make any sense.

 

 

 

[/pet peeve]

[Barihawk]

Physical excercise is a lot more relieving for stress than cancer sticks. I usually do hard bicycle riding or boxing when I am stressed out.

[Lateralus]

deloriagod, thank you for enaging in reductio ad absurdium. It's pretty clear why drugs aren't allowed to be discussed.

 

[bleep]. I really hate when people pull Latin out of their [wagon] when they can't even read the language. It's pretentious as heck, especially in the 60% of the cases where the translation doesn't even make any sense.

 

 

 

[/pet peeve]

 

 

 

I think it's fine in cases like that. Latin terms for logical fallacies have almost become idioms.

[Rebdragon]

That's why it's a pet peeve. It's fine for most people, it just personally ticks me off :P . It's a tad ironic though, considering I'm losing my Latin, I'm beginning to have less and less of a right to have that pet peeve :-# .

[Ouchy]

You are 18. You are old enough to make these decisions, as long as you weight in the long term effects. You might be stressed out, but Smoking will be the worst thing. If you get too addicted, you will end up becoming a Chain Smoker, which can become costly, which could potentially add more stress (Finding the money). If you want my opinion, don't smoke. Smoking is not cool, and looks repulsive. You could end up with cancer, and you could not be as physically fit as you could possibly be (Tar in your lungs.)

 

Also, Barihawk makes a very good point:

 

 

 

Physical excercise is a lot more relieving for stress than cancer sticks.

[ClareJonsson]

Go swimming, it's a great stress for stress relief!

[dsavi]

Removed, no drugs discussion ~pryomancer

 

What a piece of irony! This whole thread is about tobacco, a drug many times more harmful and addicting than cannabis.

 

Well, the difference is that cannabis is illegal.

 

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[blushenka]

It's true, cannabis is less harmful that the legal cigarettes. Also, smoking a pipe is healthier than smoking cigarettes.

 

Just because the government says they're illegal for whatever reason, shouldn't stop us to discuss and compare the effects. After all, we're rational human beings and it's a free world?

 

 

 

Besides, if we were to limit all discussions that people may feel strongly about, we'd pretty much have nothing to talk about.

[Ouchy]

Just because the government says they're illegal for whatever reason, shouldn't stop us to discuss and compare the effects. After all, we're rational human beings and it's a free world?

 

 

 

Besides, if we were to limit all discussions that people may feel strongly about, we'd pretty much have nothing to talk about.

 

 

 

It may be a free world, but the Staff make the rules on this board. If they have addressed a policy of not talking about drugs, then we have to follow that guide line. If you cannot comply to them, then don't use the forums. Simple as that.

 

 

 

Also, here are some healthy alternatives to relief stress:

 

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  [*:2zn000uj]Lift weight/Work Out
   
  [*:2zn000uj]Go for a run/work
   
  [*:2zn000uj]Go swimming
   
  [*:2zn000uj]Play a game on the computer
   
  [*:2zn000uj]Talk to friends

[MC_Kejml]

Instead of smoking, I could recommend you 1 or 2 "stooges" of alcohol (0,04l), when you are stressed instead. It always helped me, if you pick the right one, you don't get liquored and they aren't as bad as cigs.

 

 

 

It could begin with one or 2 cigs, but you may find yourself widening the number. Beware :/ :(

 

 

 

And yeah, there are other ways. This one just came off top of my head.

 

 

 

EDIT: Another I can rememebr myself doing is working out. It's ok, actually, if you have some time, tools, and place.

[Mercifull]

 

You flip burgers... you have no idea what real stress is.

 

 

 

The name "troll general" seriously does suit you :|

True but I get pretty angry when people are boo hooing about stress and depression when its just a case of simple teenage angst. Everyone has lots of schoolwork, everyone has parents that worry about them. Wait til you grow up and have some real responsibilities and have a job and a mortgage and then look back at your school years and if you can truely and honetly say you were streessed or depressed then i shall buy you a cookie.

 

 

 

To all the people suggesting drugs ie. cannabis or alchocol etc. just shut up. Stop trying to show off on an internet forum you know all about them. It's seriously bad advice. Alcohol is a depressant and should never be drunk to stress relief as you will actually end up feeling worse in the long run not to mention the spiraling costs at the moment as well as the possibility of dependancy by associating drinking with relaxing after work.

 

 

 

Go ahead, call me a troll again.

[warri0r45]

It's really not worth smoking because you feel a little stressed. I feel a little stressed every now and then and I don't see any need to smoke. All it tends to do to people is give them shortness of breath, a hole in their wallet and possibly either lung cancer, emphysema or heart disease.

 

 

 

There's no doubt that nicotine can relieve stress and give a small, short term mental gain (releases endorphins, activates the reward pathway). But when it comes to being dependant on smoking to get that effect, the side-effects can only make it a bad choice in my eyes.

 

 

 

Like other people have said, there are other things that can relieve stress. Try jogging. It's probably not going to be as effective as a drug, but it does work to relieve stress and release endorphins.

[blushenka]

Just because the government says they're illegal for whatever reason, shouldn't stop us to discuss and compare the effects. After all, we're rational human beings and it's a free world?

 

 

 

Besides, if we were to limit all discussions that people may feel strongly about, we'd pretty much have nothing to talk about.

 

 

 

It may be a free world, but the Staff make the rules on this board. If they have addressed a policy of not talking about drugs, then we have to follow that guide line. If you cannot comply to them, then don't use the forums. Simple as that.

 

 

Whoa there tiger ;d

 

 

 

I guess I'm just suffering from teenage angst and I need a cookie : (

[Zygimantas]

imo this topic isn't going to do to much, if you really need a cig, your ganna smoke one. find a new job imo fast food is hard work and bad pay and you say you work 7 days a week lol? that or quit what can your parents really do?

 

I need the money beacuse my family is EXTREMELY poor and im saving up money for college (on food, ect) and a little to spend. I put 5 applications in for new jobs saturday, lets hope i get one

ok, now thats a big reason you should not smoke: Smoking= loss of $$$

[warren211]

Hundreds of thousands of other high-schoolers are in the same situation as you are. If they all turned to cigarettes for answers, it could be really problematic. Frankly I can only see cigarettes adding to your problem. Not just the health hazards, but the mere fact that you'll be spending a lot of extra cash a week on cigarettes. And being a high school student with a not exactly CEO paying job, and having college to worry about, the last thing you need is to burn off spare cash on cigarettes.

[Bouwzie]

Well, even though you are stresslike, don't do it. Do something you enjoy in the (little) free time you have to not think of it. Or just shoot some people in a game while cheating so you can't die and so you don't get anymore stress from it. Oh, and cannabis is legal in The Netherlands I think, so can I still talk about it? (Just joking, but it is still legal) Don't start smoking cannabis though, "studies" have shown that it has alot of bad consequences.

[Range_This11]

Don't start smoking cannabis though, "studies" have shown that it has alot of bad consequences.

 

I'm compelled to hit you very hard with a sledgehammer for saying that.

[Bauke]

If you think you can relieve stress by starting to pollute your body and harm yourself with toxic gasses, you're a moron. But I guess that's what society tells you to do nowadays.

 

 

 

Seriously, find something else. Smoking isn't a problem solver, it's a problem creator.

[Quoi_Tu]

Don't start smoking cannabis though, "studies" have shown that it has alot of bad consequences.

 

I'm compelled to hit you very hard with a sledgehammer for saying that.

 

 

 

Studies have also shown that sledgehammers have a lot of bad consequences.

[deloriagod]

Don't start smoking cannabis though, "studies" have shown that it has alot of bad consequences.

 

I'm compelled to hit you very hard with a sledgehammer for saying that.

 

 

 

Do you think it's a good time to tell him those studies were bogus? Or should I wait until you're done with that sledgehammer idea?