If Jagex is changing game based on them, then the game is another step further to end. :|

 

 

 

Are you joking?

 

This feature will get player feedback directly from the source from the people who know this game best.

 

 

 

That's true. But i don't like the fact the games changes is based on these players oppion.

 

 

 

I might not know all skills in game. But one thing i know: Melee....and i am pretty good at it.

 

 

 

But still: i don't get to acess that forum (not that i want to)

If Jagex is changing game based on them, then the game is another step further to end. :|

 

 

 

Are you joking?

 

This feature will get player feedback directly from the source from the people who know this game best.

 

 

 

That's true. But i don't like the fact the games changes is based on these players oppion.

 

 

 

I might not know all skills in game. But one thing i know: Melee....and i am pretty good at it.

 

 

 

But still: i don't get to acess that forum (not that i want to)

 

 

 

First off, who ever said the games changes would be BASED off of these players' input; it would obviously be BASED off of Jagex's ideas. I think it is obvious that this forum is to get feedback about the already existing game, not to create or change huge aspects of the game.

 

 

 

You think Jagex is discriminating you for not allowing people that are maxed out in a few skills? Someone who has a few 99's can still be very ignorant about the game. I know plenty of people that have 99 strength, whereas I have 81, yet I still know better melee strategies than them.

 

 

 

My point is that it is all over overall knowledge of the game is what they're looking for, and should look for. Anything else is just relying on a narrow-view of the game, which may be slanted or even biased towards the interest and benefit of their specific maxed skill. I think Jagex's view is that to make the most reliable and credible critique on any skill or aspect at all, you need to have a very wide view of the game.

I'm a uber high player :(

I'm a uber high player :(

 

 

 

No you're not.

If Jagex is changing game based on them, then the game is another step further to end. :|

 

 

 

Are you joking?

 

This feature will get player feedback directly from the source from the people who know this game best.

 

 

 

That's true. But i don't like the fact the games changes is based on these players oppion.

 

 

 

I might not know all skills in game. But one thing i know: Melee....and i am pretty good at it.

 

 

 

But still: i don't get to acess that forum (not that i want to)

 

 

 

First off, who ever said the games changes would be BASED off of these players' input; it would obviously be BASED off of Jagex's ideas. I think it is obvious that this forum is to get feedback about the already existing game, not to create or change huge aspects of the game.

 

 

 

You think Jagex is discriminating you for not allowing people that are maxed out in a few skills? Someone who has a few 99's can still be very ignorant about the game. I know plenty of people that have 99 strength, whereas I have 81, yet I still know better melee strategies than them.

 

 

 

My point is that it is all over overall knowledge of the game is what they're looking for, and should look for. Anything else is just relying on a narrow-view of the game, which may be slanted or even biased towards the interest and benefit of their specific maxed skill. I think Jagex's view is that to make the most reliable and credible critique on any skill or aspect at all, you need to have a very wide view of the game.

 

 

 

Feed back on current things in the game? Cool. Then i am out of this discussion :)

I'm a uber high player :(

 

 

 

No you're not.

 

I may not be higher but I'm uber than most 8-)

I'm a uber high player :(

 

 

 

No you're not.

 

I may not be higher but I'm uber than most 8-)

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

yes.

 

 

 

So you were first to do something? Does that mean everdred gets access to the forums?

I know off the top of my head several players who know the game better than anyone with maxed skills. Having 99s in every skill does not mean anything more than you have played for a long time and know how to click a mouse. Literally anyone can get 99 in any skill provided they are given enough time, it does not take any smarts whatsoever. One *could* make an argument for completing all quests, given that a lot of quests do take some critical thinking skills and/or problem solving skills to finish, but also given that there is a guide for every quest - that argument can be easily shot down.

 

 

 

JaGex never fails to let ignorance get in the way.

I'm actually kind of glad that they did that. If you take a look at the suggestions forums on the RSOF, you'll find that about 95% of the suggestions are [developmentally delayed]. I would rather have a small percentage of high-level players making suggestions and providing feedback to Jagex than a bunch of idiot kids who have been playing the game for a few months.

 

 

 

I must admit, I've probably been playing the game just as long or longer than some of the people who have all 99's. I consider myself to be knowledgeable about Runescape, but I'm not offended by not being included in the new forum. Instead of picking random high level people, they just chose those who had maxed out stats, which was easier for them.

Everyone who is better then the rest will be in there.

 

 

 

They will only get advice from the best, whish isn't really the best advice.

 

 

 

Sure it might be great for high lvl content, but they should let high levels in.

 

 

 

Like if they were making a combat update aimed at high levles, let those who are high level in combat in!

 

Just because they have all 99s doesn't mean they're the best?Alot of people are good at what they do. Just cause a person doesn't have a 99 means they suck or can't play the game the way people want them to. A person who has low stats could be better than a high level in minigames like FoG or GoP.

I know off the top of my head several players who know the game better than anyone with maxed skills. Having 99s in every skill does not mean anything more than you have played for a long time and know how to click a mouse. Literally anyone can get 99 in any skill provided they are given enough time, it does not take any smarts whatsoever. One *could* make an argument for completing all quests, given that a lot of quests do take some critical thinking skills and/or problem solving skills to finish, but also given that there is a guide for every quest - that argument can be easily shot down.

 

 

 

JaGex never fails to let ignorance get in the way.

 

 

 

Dumb post. If you get a 99 skill it does show you've played a long time therefore you are hopefully familiar with that skill. You've also hung around other people training it and heard thier thoughts on the skill.

 

 

 

Who's better at coming up with a good idea for a skill? A new player who knows nothing about the game or someone who has played since it started? Obviously not the latter -.-

What I do think is wrong; probably (i don't know this for sure) i'm guessing ALL forum and player mods have access to this forum, which IMO is WRONG.

 

 

 

Jagex should invite people who're uber and their opinions actually matter with ideas that could change the game.

What I do think is wrong; probably (i don't know this for sure) i'm guessing ALL forum and player mods have access to this forum, which IMO is WRONG.

 

 

 

Jagex should invite people who're uber and their opinions actually matter with ideas that could change the game.

 

 

 

Unfortunately there is no thought processing skill where they can pick out the lvl 99s....

Oh shut the hell up with the whining about not having access!!! For example, one doesn't get access to a secure bank vault just because "they want to look at it". Sigh, why would it be different here!

 

 

 

I think it was a fine move to make these 2 forums. I don't agree with the people who think having all 99s just means clicking your damn mouse 3 million times. Achieving ALL 99s takes planning, logical thinking, patience, some knowledge of economics (to stay out of bankruptcy and afford to max all the skills) and cold nerves (to keep all the bastards who mock you for "having no life" from ruining your days). If "anyone can do it", why have so few done it, ehh?! Sure some players might have better, wittier, more calculated and beneficial suggestions than these selected few. Still, it is better for Jagex to work with one group of players who know the game inside out more than the average scaper, than to work with 100,000 kids who all want a flamboozle of different things, but can never make up an actual worthful suggestion. :roll:

 

 

 

Just let it be! Why must there always be disrespect and moaning about everything EVERYONE doesn't have access to! #-o

Oh shut the hell up with the whining about not having access!!! For example, one doesn't get access to a secure bank vault just because "they want to look at it". Sigh, why would it be different here!

 

 

 

I think it was a fine move to make these 2 forums. I don't agree with the people who think having all 99s just means clicking your damn mouse 3 million times. Achieving ALL 99s takes planning, logical thinking, patience, some knowledge of economics (to stay out of bankruptcy and afford to max all the skills) and cold nerves (to keep all the bastards who mock you for "having no life" from ruining your days). If "anyone can do it", why have so few done it, ehh?! Sure some players might have better, wittier, more calculated and beneficial suggestions than these selected few. Still, it is better for Jagex to work with one group of players who know the game inside out more than the average scaper, than to work with 100,000 kids who all want a flamboozle of different things, but can never make up an actual worthful suggestion. :roll:

 

 

 

Just let it be! Why must there always be disrespect and moaning about everything EVERYONE doesn't have access to! #-o

if a new skill comes out,they [the 99 in everything ones] cant axxes it anyway :twss:

The only bad move they made here was announcing it to all the people that are sure to cry about it.

 

 

 

Lets hope they ll get some good ideas from it, Im sure people with that much experience will be able to come up with both interesting new things and useful fixes for current content (personally Im still waiting for the use-x option when filling compost bins).

They had to announce it to the amount of leaks and rumors that would arise...

 

 

 

Also, imo, those who have all 99's will prob not lose access right away. They will be the ones skilling it first as a goal so they will probably be used to get feedback as well. or you cuold just look at it as no new skills are coming out lol.

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I know off the top of my head several players who know the game better than anyone with maxed skills. Having 99s in every skill does not mean anything more than you have played for a long time and know how to click a mouse. Literally anyone can get 99 in any skill provided they are given enough time, it does not take any smarts whatsoever. One *could* make an argument for completing all quests, given that a lot of quests do take some critical thinking skills and/or problem solving skills to finish, but also given that there is a guide for every quest - that argument can be easily shot down.

 

 

 

JaGex never fails to let ignorance get in the way.

 

 

 

Dumb post. If you get a 99 skill it does show you've played a long time therefore you are hopefully familiar with that skill. You've also hung around other people training it and heard thier thoughts on the skill.

 

 

 

Who's better at coming up with a good idea for a skill? A new player who knows nothing about the game or someone who has played since it started? Obviously not the latter -.-

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Why would anyone get over 85 Farming, 92 Firemaking, 90 Slayer, 95 Fletching, 90 Crafting, or 85 Heblore? The only people that would get above those levels are those who either want a higher skill total for the sake of having a higher skill total, want the respective skillcapes, or are simply stupid and think that "lol 99 crafting is better than 90 duh". Because those with maxed skills have 99 in those above mentioned (obviously), it tells us that they simply have a lot of free time on their hands - and I'm not saying that's good or bad, I'm just pointing out that the only thing it tells us for sure is that they've played a long time. It does NOT tell us that they are familiar with the skill, it does NOT tell us that they have hung around other people training it and heard their thoughts on the skill.

 

 

 

As for your example, I don't know why you even said it considering nobody has suggested that a new player would be better at coming up with a good idea for a skill than someone who's played since it started.

 

 

 

For the record, I couldn't care less about having access to the forum, I'd just like to think that they've put at least some sort of thought into their criteria instead of "oh this is the easiest way to do it"

No fun things will come from this though. the maxed out players i know are only in the game to max out, and be super efficient, any updates that are made to the game through these forums will either be new ways to pk (clan leader one) or new ways to train a skill in a boring but efficient way (maxed out one)

I'm a uber high player :(

 

 

 

No you're not.

 

I may not be higher but I'm uber than most 8-)

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

yes.

 

 

 

You can say your uber all day, but all you will see is the standard runescape forums...

 

 

 

When you argue with a wall, you loose.

Although it does seem a little elitist at first, i think it is a pretty good idea. The players with access to this forum genuinely care about the game, having spent years playing it so their advice should help Jagex develop ideas which appeal to everyone.

Now... What's so great about these forums? I hear people crying that it's unfair and whatnot, but what's seriously so great about them? :? That Jagex will listen to their ideas more? Well so be it, Jagex at least need some reliable high levels (now don't get into a discussion about if they're reliable or not... Jagex obviously think they are, and I don't think people who are crying that it's unfair are going to be more reliable) to give them ideas, and they can't listen to everyone's ideas at once.

 

 

 

Now if the intention of these forums isn't for suggesting high level content, then ignore what I said above. But if the intention of these forums is just to be a "community" or whatever, then what's so bad about it? If everyone had access to the forum it would obviously just be like any other RSOF forum. And I don't think people crying that it's unfair will contribute to the "community" in that forum :P

 

 

 

Anyways, this shouldn't affect people in any way, it doesn't contribute anything negative at all from what I can see. The only negative thing I can think of people saying is that Jagex might be drawing their attention away from the RSOF suggestions to those forums, which I don't think they'll do. Only thing this causes is jealousy, and jealousy in this case is irrational, since this new forum doesn't change anything for normal people at all.

The RS nerd in me laughs at zezima not being able to get into the high level forum due to his lack of all 99s.

 

 

 

But atleast now Jagex may actually listen to a select few players; which is better then the current amount of zero.

looking at the high scores its obvious that there are a lot of people for whom runescape is a major (probably the major) part of their life. Now, there are only a few runescape communities like tip it, runehq, RSOF etc.

 

 

 

So if these highly ranked players spend so much time on runescape, it stands to measure that they are also likely to be a member of a community like we are. So where do they go? do they have secret community?

 

 

 

I know some high level players contribute under a pseudonym to avoid spam, but its unlikely this accounts for 10,000 people. I am also aware that tip it has some highly ranked players. but again i dont think this doesn't account for 10,000+ players, even over all the different help sites

 

 

 

Do you think jagex has ever been in contact with the very well known players?

 

 

 

Did you know: over 10,000 people have over 2000 total skill level

 

 

 

..called it, as

First smart move in a while....

 

 

 

I could imagine if it was open to everybody:

 

"MAK3 a N3w UPDATEEESFSDF igot deadded and lost 10geepeess now i have to restart the game and i have played a month on it! put a wildy ditch aroudn every playerrrrr"