"You attack first! No you attack first!"

[999134]

Oh, and to clear any confusion non-pkers are having (as apparent in many posts on this thread), the objective while pking is to kill your opponent, NOT to keep yourself alive. So pretty much anyone willing to fight with protect prayers on and doesn't have multiple combat styles to attack with (or veracs) is not focused on killing their opponent, and is not a good pker - in fact they're just a nuisance and resource waster.

 

 

 

Well from when you suggest bringing veracs into pking I'm afraid I just cannot take you seriously.

 

 

 

Stick to FOG k?

 

verac was a staple deathmatch with prayer armour :roll:

 

every staker had a set of verac

[Dharockslayer]

 

i bet when we can use summons in pvp pking we will be cheating for 1 hitting you because we are 'teaming' :wall: #-o :roll:

 

 

 

Um... not exactly, you see, if you use an combat familiar, you are keen on dishing out damage to the other instead of tanking with prayer.

 

 

 

Whatever kills my opponent faster will be inhereted in my tactics. If gives me an edge above another player I will use it. You see, its not that protection prayers are bad, it is just that using smite+piety/chivalry is so much better damage wise.

 

 

 

Anyone who protect prayers in a 1v1 fight clearly is scared to death about losing their precious armour, and hence isn't worth my or anyones time.

[brando13a]

If I can shave off 30-45% of my opponents damage, while boosting my own damage in 15% accuracy and power, by all means I'll take the more defensive fighting position.

 

 

 

Smite, can be effectively duplicated with a level ~30 familiar (vampire bat? cant remember) which has the ability to drain prayer quite effectively, and more reliably than smite (which uses prayer, and depends on the randomness of the combat engine).

 

 

 

as for the difference in damage between someone using smiety combo, I can live with that. A pure is a glass cannon, so they have no reason to boost their non-existant defences, they need damage to survive, which is why they are dangerous. Rounded players however, dont have that luxury- why should we be penalized for playing differently than a pure? pking is secondary on many accounts, as some of us enjoy the rest of the game too.

 

 

 

A pure is level 80, his opponent is a rounded character of level 80. now if both of them have ~equal prayer levels, the pure would win hands down if both agreed to only use offensive prayers. BUT the rounded player would have the advantage of armor/defence to try and balance this, which probably wouldnt equate to much, seeing as at those levels, a pure would absolutely demolish a normal character in offence.

 

 

 

solution? the non pure uses protect prayers to shave off the damage difference, equalizing the battle field, and in most cases taking the advantage. thats the only reason pures whine, because its not fair to THEM. you say its 'nooby to waste food' well suck it up princess, its a game, and appearantly not the cheery one where everyone bends over and lets you sodomize them with a scimitar. People will put up a fight, If i hit 5 less max damage than you, but trump you defensively, I'll take any means to boost my defence before worrying about my offence.

 

 

 

that 5 extra damage can easily be duplicated on my end, while my extra defensive buffs will be paramount in stopping you, as 30% off your hits from my protect prayer will lower your damage to/below my own level, while the added 15% to my defence will help stave off the rest of your attacks.

 

 

 

pures are the proverbial sprinters of pking, while everyone else takes their place at the marathon gates. we may not be as fast, but we will win, because we can afford the time to kill you.

 

 

 

and dont even talk about "prayer noobs" running once their prayer runs out, I have a pure account, and other pures are no better. they wont sit back and say oh, looks like im gonna die, they run their [wagon] off in hopes of not loosing. and then they have the balls to pm you about how much you suck! sorry, thats not all pures, but in general the attitude is rampant among you.

[Canineteeth]

 

 

 

22 18 1.1 Combat - Magic Fights (Level 36)

 

Right-click Despair - when fighting other players, the Tz-Kih will drain your opponent's Prayer instead of inflicting damage

 

Fireball Assault

 

 

 

 

 

Most familiars R A R E L Y hit, and you have to be right licking tons of times. Also its not useable in BH, the grasshopper would be a better alternative. (or locust, whatever ate opponents food).

[Laura]

 

 

 

22 18 1.1 Combat - Magic Fights (Level 36)

 

Right-click Despair - when fighting other players, the Tz-Kih will drain your opponent's Prayer instead of inflicting damage

 

Fireball Assault

 

 

 

 

 

Most familiars R A R E L Y hit, and you have to be right licking tons of times. Also its not useable in BH, the grasshopper would be a better alternative. (or locust, whatever ate opponents food).

 

You are forgetting that pures have 1 defence.

[Canineteeth]

 

 

 

22 18 1.1 Combat - Magic Fights (Level 36)

 

Right-click Despair - when fighting other players, the Tz-Kih will drain your opponent's Prayer instead of inflicting damage

 

Fireball Assault

 

 

 

 

 

Most familiars R A R E L Y hit, and you have to be right licking tons of times. Also its not useable in BH, the grasshopper would be a better alternative. (or locust, whatever ate opponents food).

 

You are forgetting that pures have 1 defence.

 

 

 

Consider rune pures, addy pures, and barrow pures, though I have yet to understand them.

[Huta]

If I can shave off 30-45% of my opponents damage, while boosting my own damage in 15% accuracy and power, by all means I'll take the more defensive fighting position.

 

 

 

Smite, can be effectively duplicated with a level ~30 familiar (vampire bat? cant remember) which has the ability to drain prayer quite effectively, and more reliably than smite (which uses prayer, and depends on the randomness of the combat engine).

 

 

 

as for the difference in damage between someone using smiety combo, I can live with that. A pure is a glass cannon, so they have no reason to boost their non-existant defences, they need damage to survive, which is why they are dangerous. Rounded players however, dont have that luxury- why should we be penalized for playing differently than a pure? pking is secondary on many accounts, as some of us enjoy the rest of the game too.

 

 

 

A pure is level 80, his opponent is a rounded character of level 80. now if both of them have ~equal prayer levels, the pure would win hands down if both agreed to only use offensive prayers. BUT the rounded player would have the advantage of armor/defence to try and balance this, which probably wouldnt equate to much, seeing as at those levels, a pure would absolutely demolish a normal character in offence.

 

 

 

solution? the non pure uses protect prayers to shave off the damage difference, equalizing the battle field, and in most cases taking the advantage. thats the only reason pures whine, because its not fair to THEM. you say its 'nooby to waste food' well suck it up princess, its a game, and appearantly not the cheery one where everyone bends over and lets you sodomize them with a scimitar. People will put up a fight, If i hit 5 less max damage than you, but trump you defensively, I'll take any means to boost my defence before worrying about my offence.

 

 

 

that 5 extra damage can easily be duplicated on my end, while my extra defensive buffs will be paramount in stopping you, as 30% off your hits from my protect prayer will lower your damage to/below my own level, while the added 15% to my defence will help stave off the rest of your attacks.

 

 

 

pures are the proverbial sprinters of pking, while everyone else takes their place at the marathon gates. we may not be as fast, but we will win, because we can afford the time to kill you.

 

 

 

and dont even talk about "prayer noobs" running once their prayer runs out, I have a pure account, and other pures are no better. they wont sit back and say oh, looks like im gonna die, they run their [wagon] off in hopes of not loosing. and then they have the balls to pm you about how much you suck! sorry, thats not all pures, but in general the attitude is rampant among you.

 

 

 

You will beat the pure, but you won't kill him. Prayer vs prayer does nothing but drag the fight out forever, ultimately wasting both of the fighter's supplies until one gets low enough they just run 6 steps to safety.

 

 

 

That's the real reason PKers hate prayer. It isn't an advantage for EITHER party, since the entire reason both of you are out there, to kill for loot, is just about raped by prayer. Instead of the best player getting a ko and some [cabbage], the best player slowly wears the other guy out then watches his target run to safety.

 

 

 

That's what I don't get about non-pkers that think they're being smart by using prayer when pking. They aren't being smart; they're shooting themselves in the foot and wasting their money while doing it. Sure, you may never die, but neither will the other guy.

 

 

 

And seriously, everybody uses stat bonus prayers. They aren't talking about piety or ultimate strength when they complain about prayer, so don't even go there.

[ladycai]

 

 

 

22 18 1.1 Combat - Magic Fights (Level 36)

 

Right-click Despair - when fighting other players, the Tz-Kih will drain your opponent's Prayer instead of inflicting damage

 

Fireball Assault

 

 

 

 

 

Most familiars R A R E L Y hit, and you have to be right licking tons of times. Also its not useable in BH, the grasshopper would be a better alternative. (or locust, whatever ate opponents food).

 

You are forgetting that pures have 1 defence.

 

 

 

Consider rune pures, addy pures, and barrow pures, though I have yet to understand them.

 

 

 

Familiars have been a main part in HIGH LEVEL Pking..

[Canineteeth]

 

 

 

22 18 1.1 Combat - Magic Fights (Level 36)

 

Right-click Despair - when fighting other players, the Tz-Kih will drain your opponent's Prayer instead of inflicting damage

 

Fireball Assault

 

 

 

 

 

Most familiars R A R E L Y hit, and you have to be right licking tons of times. Also its not useable in BH, the grasshopper would be a better alternative. (or locust, whatever ate opponents food).

 

You are forgetting that pures have 1 defence.

 

 

 

Consider rune pures, addy pures, and barrow pures, though I have yet to understand them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Familiars have been a main part in HIGH LEVEL Pking..

 

 

 

So we can take familiars into BH? For now we are discussing the dangerous PKs, not duel arena.

 

 

 

 

 

edit: Accidently put my thoughts inside the quote box. .

[Infi]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Since when did familiars have to be brought into PKing now. For one, OP is talking about the days when there were skulls, also known as when there was still attackable wilderness. THAT'S BEFORE THE SUMMONING UPDATE AS IT WAS INTRODUCED AFTER THE "REMOVAL" OF THE WILDERNESS. Second, you can't bring familiars in BH. That leaves summoning in PvP areas for dueling, fight pits and I'm not sure about the rest. It honestly does make me laugh to see you people who obviously have no clue about PKing talk about tactics when in all my experiences have never seen any decent pker do that. :lol: (E.g.: shaving off 30-35% damage off and talking about familiars to drain prayer) By the way, seldom you will see a time when PKers do bring Verac's into the wild, even into Edgeville. They'd be too timid to lose their Verac helm and never skull anyways, and who would want to fight a tanked out person who hits through prayer with high prayer bonus and no chance of losing Verac's? No one. It's that kind of mentality where people who have little or no experience about PKing start throwing about random facts that have no relevancy to the topic because just because it says something, it totally means it will work. This is PvP, not PvM.

[Canineteeth]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Since when did familiars have to be brought into PKing now. For one, OP is talking about the days when there were skulls, also known as when there was still attackable wilderness. THAT'S BEFORE THE SUMMONING UPDATE AS IT WAS INTRODUCED AFTER THE "REMOVAL" OF THE WILDERNESS. Second, you can't bring familiars in BH. That leaves summoning in PvP areas for dueling, fight pits and I'm not sure about the rest. It honestly does make me laugh to see you people who obviously have no clue about PKing talk about tactics when in all my experiences have never seen any decent pker do that. :lol: (E.g.: shaving off 30-35% damage off and talking about familiars to drain prayer) By the way, seldom you will see a time when PKers do bring Verac's into the wild, even into Edgeville. They'd be too timid to lose their Verac helm and never skull anyways, and who would want to fight a tanked out person who hits through prayer with high prayer bonus and no chance of losing Verac's? No one. It's that kind of mentality where people who have little or no experience about PKing start throwing about random facts that have no relevancy to the topic because just because it says something, it totally means it will work. This is PvP, not PvM.

 

 

 

 

 

Thats what I ment, you can't bring summons into BH. Also, it was originally about how the Skull system will work in the NEW pvp. There I would happily use Veracs / summons / protect prays just to get the edge and earn rewards.

[Infi]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Since when did familiars have to be brought into PKing now. For one, OP is talking about the days when there were skulls, also known as when there was still attackable wilderness. THAT'S BEFORE THE SUMMONING UPDATE AS IT WAS INTRODUCED AFTER THE "REMOVAL" OF THE WILDERNESS. Second, you can't bring familiars in BH. That leaves summoning in PvP areas for dueling, fight pits and I'm not sure about the rest. It honestly does make me laugh to see you people who obviously have no clue about PKing talk about tactics when in all my experiences have never seen any decent pker do that. :lol: (E.g.: shaving off 30-35% damage off and talking about familiars to drain prayer) By the way, seldom you will see a time when PKers do bring Verac's into the wild, even into Edgeville. They'd be too timid to lose their Verac helm and never skull anyways, and who would want to fight a tanked out person who hits through prayer with high prayer bonus and no chance of losing Verac's? No one. It's that kind of mentality where people who have little or no experience about PKing start throwing about random facts that have no relevancy to the topic because just because it says something, it totally means it will work. This is PvP, not PvM.

 

 

 

 

 

Thats what I ment, you can't bring summons into BH. Also, it was originally about how the Skull system will work in the NEW pvp. There I would happily use Veracs / summons / protect prays just to get the edge and earn rewards.

 

No. You're still not understanding what this thread is about.

 

 

 

Ahh the good old pking days.

 

 

 

So has anybody ever been in this situation while pking a while back? They want you to attack them first so you get skulled. I just want to know how many people have been here.

 

[Canineteeth]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Since when did familiars have to be brought into PKing now. For one, OP is talking about the days when there were skulls, also known as when there was still attackable wilderness. THAT'S BEFORE THE SUMMONING UPDATE AS IT WAS INTRODUCED AFTER THE "REMOVAL" OF THE WILDERNESS. Second, you can't bring familiars in BH. That leaves summoning in PvP areas for dueling, fight pits and I'm not sure about the rest. It honestly does make me laugh to see you people who obviously have no clue about PKing talk about tactics when in all my experiences have never seen any decent pker do that. :lol: (E.g.: shaving off 30-35% damage off and talking about familiars to drain prayer) By the way, seldom you will see a time when PKers do bring Verac's into the wild, even into Edgeville. They'd be too timid to lose their Verac helm and never skull anyways, and who would want to fight a tanked out person who hits through prayer with high prayer bonus and no chance of losing Verac's? No one. It's that kind of mentality where people who have little or no experience about PKing start throwing about random facts that have no relevancy to the topic because just because it says something, it totally means it will work. This is PvP, not PvM.

 

 

 

 

 

Could have sworn it said something different. . ah well.

 

 

 

 

 

Thats what I ment, you can't bring summons into BH. Also, it was originally about how the Skull system will work in the NEW pvp. There I would happily use Veracs / summons / protect prays just to get the edge and earn rewards.

 

No. You're still not understanding what this thread is about.

 

 

 

Ahh the good old pking days.

 

 

 

So has anybody ever been in this situation while pking a while back? They want you to attack them first so you get skulled. I just want to know how many people have been here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its been this PK'er discussion that got us off topic, but thats how every conversation IRL tends to go.

 

 

 

For the topic, once some guy scammed me, it was rather sad though. Some guy asked me to team with him, and he took me a bit deep into the wildy, told me to hit him to make sure I wouldnt accidently hit high and kill him. I fell for it, hit him, went even deeper and he tried to kill me. I can't remember if I died or survived, was so long ago.

 

 

 

I keep on writing inside the quotes =/

[Krazi]

"Well, I'm too poor to buy an Armadyl Godsword, so can you please use your whip instead?"

 

"Well, I chose not to train prayer, so you aren't allowed use it."

 

 

 

You gotta be kidding me. :roll:

 

 

 

On Topic:

 

Yes the skulling system needs to be fixed. I like the BH Skulling system, maybe pvp worlds could have something similar to this, without the wealth indicator.

[Huta]

"Well, I'm too poor to buy an Armadyl Godsword, so can you please use your whip instead?"

 

"Well, I chose not to train prayer, so you aren't allowed use it."

 

 

 

You gotta be kidding me. :roll:

 

 

 

On Topic:

 

Yes the skulling system needs to be fixed. I like the BH Skulling system, maybe pvp worlds could have something similar to this, without the wealth indicator.

 

 

 

I challenge you to find me a viable, effective p2p pure that doesn't have at the very least 44 or 52 prayer. Go on, do it.

 

 

 

I hate this "but the pures don't have prayer" argument, it's [developmentally delayed]ed and false.

[brando13a]

They aren't talking about piety or ultimate strength when they complain about prayer, so don't even go there.

 

 

 

I'll go there, because its a strong argument. Everyone seems focused on the fact that protect prayers drag out a fight, but dont complain about steel skin/the 20% you get from piety?

 

 

 

Sofar, what I've read (every page) has people arguing that it "isnt true pking if you arent going on the full offensive 100% of the time to guarantee someone dies".

 

 

 

well thats blatantly stupid, strategy>dieing :roll: if I want to boost my offence, defence, and shave 30% of your damage off,by god i will. you can go ahead and use piety/smite, it wont do you much good in the end, considering my prayer will cancel out your added strength/attack and then some, AND I still have a fair boost from my other prayers.

 

 

 

PKer's who whine and complain should do what is in human nature and adapt- people arent going to play by your game anymore, so dont expect them to, like I said before- ADJUST adapt, change, evolve, use any dirty tricks you have to to win. this isnt a bout of fisticups, this is player killing for money and glory.

 

 

 

and dont pretend you give an ioda of your concience to the money your opponent spends on food/potions. YOU know you want them to waste it all, you KNOW you want them to die, so do what it takes to ensure they do!

 

 

 

as for the summons, I was just pointing out that there is a viable option in theory to effectively replace smite (and metal armors dont matter- the bat attacks with MAGIC)

 

 

 

as for the actual topic- yes, the days when everyone was afraid to loose their stuff and the wilderness was just turning into the land of douchebaggery and conceded omnisient [puncture]s

[Huta]

They aren't talking about piety or ultimate strength when they complain about prayer, so don't even go there.

 

 

 

I'll go there, because its a strong argument. Everyone seems focused on the fact that protect prayers drag out a fight, but dont complain about steel skin/the 20% you get from piety?

 

 

 

Sofar, what I've read (every page) has people arguing that it "isnt true pking if you arent going on the full offensive 100% of the time to guarantee someone dies".

 

 

 

well thats blatantly stupid, strategy>dieing :roll: if I want to boost my offence, defence, and shave 30% of your damage off,by god i will. you can go ahead and use piety/smite, it wont do you much good in the end, considering my prayer will cancel out your added strength/attack and then some, AND I still have a fair boost from my other prayers.

 

 

 

PKer's who whine and complain should do what is in human nature and adapt- people arent going to play by your game anymore, so dont expect them to, like I said before- ADJUST adapt, change, evolve, use any dirty tricks you have to to win. this isnt a bout of fisticups, this is player killing for money and glory.

 

 

 

and dont pretend you give an ioda of your concience to the money your opponent spends on food/potions. YOU know you want them to waste it all, you KNOW you want them to die, so do what it takes to ensure they do!

 

 

 

as for the summons, I was just pointing out that there is a viable option in theory to effectively replace smite (and metal armors dont matter- the bat attacks with MAGIC)

 

 

 

as for the actual topic- yes, the days when everyone was afraid to loose their stuff and the wilderness was just turning into the land of douchebaggery and conceded omnisient [puncture]s

 

 

 

Did you even read my post? I doubt it.

 

 

 

"do what it takes to ensure they do! (die)".

 

 

 

I am. GL killing me if I'm forced to put protect prayer on. (And if you protect melee from me, that's exactly what I'm going to do.) You're counterdicting yourself, and all you've proved is that you know absolutely nothing about pking and how it works. Your idea of pvp is probably limited to some half hour you spend last week in the fight pits. I garentee you, if I "tank" with protect prayers and the right gear you will NOT be able to ko me. Period. No 15-14 spec is going to drop me, end of discussion.

 

 

 

Those "dirty tricks" are [cabbage]. I don't know how to explain this more clearly, but they aren't tricks if they [bleep]ing shoot YOU in the foot, and that's exactly what protect prayers do.

 

 

 

You might call this a "pker's game" or whatever. All I know is back when I used to pk in this game, I wouldn't bother fighting prayer noobs like you. Why? Because I won't get anything but a hassle out of it, and while it's true I don't care one bit about the other person, I can't help but think how stupid they are being and how they aren't going to get [cabbage] unless they pj someone.

 

 

 

You protect melee, I protect melee. Nobody gets killed and you end up walking away from the wildy going "lul this place is nothing but a waste of money".

 

 

 

You call that strategy. I call that ignorance. It's only strategy if it actually accomplishes something.

[warren211]

On the prayer situation: anyone who whines about prayers is stupid. If you don't like the way your foe fights you're free to run away. The reason I don't usually use protect prayers is because when I do, my opponent runs.

 

 

 

As for skulling, I never used to be a pro pker back in those days, but when I was a nooby 1 itemer I remember me and other 1 itemers arguing over skulling because we were afraid if losing our leftover food and pots :oops:

 

 

 

Hope the new wildy is "if you die you lose EVERYTHING" type thing and protect items have no affect. I've grown to hate those kinds of people, the ones who annoy the pkers with nothing to lose.

[0ne_time]

Okay, I've been PKing since pretty much 2002 till about mid 2007ish (I stopped PKing then, and, primarily, haven't logged onto RS since). I've probably PK'ed at least 1500 hours, so I know a fair bit about it. Here are my views: (NOTE: I am talking only about F2P, as I was never bothered to pay for multiple accounts of membership.)

 

 

 

Prayer - NOT pathetic. It's actually quite smart. I never prayed much, but sometimes I did on some of my pures, and there IS tactic to it. It can just be viewed as slightly dishonorable, as mentioned before, because it contrasts with the wilderness's "quick" atmosphere (0, 2, 3, 4, 0, 7, ect. get annoying and boring after a while). But there is a lot of tactic towards prayer. One can use prayer to his or her advantage if used right, but if the opposing PKer is skilled/experienced enough, the one using prayer can be at a disadvantage. In the end - pray or don't pray - if you're a good PKer you'll come on top more often than not, and if you're not so good, you'll die more often than not. If you're a REAL pker, you can take down a guy that is using protect prayers. You can wear his prayers down effectively, and then kill him easier, as he has less "offensive" stats due to his high prayer level. If he still beats you, then no, he's not being cheap. He/she's just more skilled than you are. However, I do think that it is dishonorable to just run away as soon as your prayer runs out.

 

 

 

Skill - There is SO much skill required in PKing. Oftentimes, skill can play as big a part in PKing, sometimes more, as luck can. Skill, in PKing, like in a lot of other things, comes with experience. When to eat, when to attack, how to attack, ect. This is especially true with teams. I, with the help of a few teammates (we had all been PKing with each other constantly for about a year, so we had a lot of practice together) could take down people 10+ levels higher than us (sometimes, there would be more of them than us). This comes from organization and from a willingness to trust your teammates. Skill is hard to gain, but when you have it, you can use tactics to beat them no matter what you throw at them. Skill in PKing is especially shown in clan wars. The more experienced clan often wins (of course, numbers help to)

 

 

 

Teleporting - I'm not fond of teleporting, nor teleporters (unless the original fight was at somewhere high in the wilderness, and the opposing team had a lot of time to try to get you). In my PKing career, I've only teleported on very rare occasions - and those being when I get big kills. I believe that if you are a PKer, then it is against the spirit of PKing to instantly teleport away at first sight of danger (Of course, if you're not PKing, and are in the wilderness for other reasons, I don't frown down upon teleporting). If everyone who tried to PK teleported on sight, then where would the fun be? I don't, however, frown down upon running, as it is more "fair" in my eyes. And no, running is not dishonorable, because only an idiot would just stay there and die when he has a chance of survival. Unlike when teleporting, it does not totally eliminate the chances of you dieing. And I don't just say this when I am the would-be victor, but I also say this as a loser. I have risked death many times by not just teleporting away. In my eyes, it's also more fun and gets my adrenaline going.

 

 

 

Defence - If you want to train defence - be my guest. I, through personal experience, know that if used properly, defence can own str+att pures/ranging pures. You risk a larger loss by bringing amour into the wilderness, so, it seems that your benefit should be greater. Pures usually attack people in amour more often than those without, as amour is a greater reward for them. So for all the risk, a little bit of reward is only fair.

 

 

 

ON TOPIC:

 

Yeah, I've been in that situation many times. Usually, I was skulled, and people asked me to fight them. I'd say "sure", but they'd wait to attack them. I would usually just refuse to fight them unless they were skulled. If I happened to be unskulled and my enemy skulled, I'd attack.

 

 

 

-One Time

[3hitm4g3u]

The best thing about the new pvp worlds is that a lot of the people who believe themselves to be the masters of pking 'strategy' wont step foot inside them.

 

 

 

Just for the record I reiterate; NOONE is whining about prayers that boost your stats. Alot of morons in this thread assume that their opponent has the magical ability to sense when someone is using boosting prayers and call them a noob for it.

 

 

 

It is NOT the boosting prayers. Super human strength, piety, whatever, noone cares if you use this. Nooone is whining if you choose to use these. Pures do not think your nooby for using boosting prayers just because their own pray level is one and they're too lazy to train it; most effective pures have 44 or 52 pray anyway. Pkers as a whole, not just pures, complain about using protection prayers. I really do fail to see why it is so difficult to comprehend this.

 

 

 

I do however lol at people thinking they are so unique,smart and special for figuring out how to use protect prays in pking. They act like it's a long lost secret strategy of war.

[Hevendor_Guy]

All these people who like using protection prayers and think it's cool during PKing just make me hate this skiller-overrun forum even more. Idiots don't know [cabbage] about pking :roll: Back to RSC...

 

 

 

OT: That's why you use a 1-itemer. Guy A attacks 1-itemer, skulls. Guy B attacks Guy A, skulls. Problem was solved that easily.

[Reztral]

Whenever someone said to not use prayer, I of course used it anyway. No rules in Wilderness, nubs. I would usually just attack people that I thought would put up a good fight , not really caring if I got skulled or not, since I could just buy anything I lost back anyway. If they started arguing about who was going to attack first, they were probably one of those that would run away when they were almost dead, so I didn't waste my time.

[ankie1992]

I remember the days back when me and my friends would try t control the castle with the chaos rune spawn in it. People would just raid it because we were all lvl 50's, so I didn't get much "You attack first!" scenarios. \

 

 

 

On the prayer topic, if you are in a DM with someone and they use prayer than that is not on, but if you just attack a random and they turn prayer on, then don't yell "OMG! prayer noob!!@!"

[Xx_Flare_xX]

Back when I used to pk (stopped after Ancients arrived) I couldn't care less about who attacked first.

 

I was there for one reason and that was to have fun.

 

 

 

Plus protect prayers are only 50% usefull in pvp so either way you have a chance of winning, it just means the difficulty has increased ;)

 

 

 

If you can't defeat a 'prayer noob' you can't pk very well.

[Madmanpur3]

"Well, I'm too poor to buy an Armadyl Godsword, so can you please use your whip instead?"

 

"Well, I chose not to train prayer, so you aren't allowed use it."

 

 

 

You gotta be kidding me. :roll:

 

 

 

On Topic:

 

Yes the skulling system needs to be fixed. I like the BH Skulling system, maybe pvp worlds could have something similar to this, without the wealth indicator.

 

 

 

I challenge you to find me a viable, effective p2p pure that doesn't have at the very least 44 or 52 prayer. Go on, do it.

 

 

 

I hate this "but the pures don't have prayer" argument, it's [developmentally delayed] and false.

 

 

 

13 prayer is statistically the best prayer for melee pures with 1 defense (all the way up until 99 strength)...It's amazing how few people know that. If you want a name, X Arikado X.