What is the point. The chances of you getting a kill by 1 iteming, 2 iteming, 3 iteming, and 4 iteming are slim, in f2p. Why does Jagex even allow this. People run into the PvP zones, attack you, waste like 10 food and then run. Wow that's more money out of your pocket and then you are frustrated because everyone runs. I think Jagex should make it that you have to take in something worth value instead of being an idiot and risking no cash whatsoever just to attack people and run.

 

 

 

Discuss.

 

 

 

PS: Varrock doesn't have many 1 itemers, but Varrock is more aimed at higher levels, eg. 85-100+.

Yup.

It won't be happening once the mains get out of pvp worlds after the hype dies down.

before making any topics like this i would just wait and let everything cool down. wat we have is over excited pkers coming into pvp worlds and trying it out or spending a day or two pking. they r eager and buy equipment for max and prices rise. i would wait a week or 2 once things get to normal. prices will go back and then the community will change once main pkers come in. keep this post just a little longer and then post it.

Well that's not so much Jagex's fault as the basic nature of PvP.

 

 

 

If PvP exists, you will always have pj'ers, looters, 1/3/4 itemers, etc.

no teleporting either, me and this noob were having a fair full rune vs full rune fite and i get him down to 5hp and I have 30hp and he teles away.

no teleporting either, me and this noob were having a fair full rune vs full rune fite and i get him down to 5hp and I have 30hp and he teles away.

 

All F2P teleports lead you to dangerous areas.. Except for Lumbridge teleport! Assuming they aren't [developmentally delayed], and want to live, they'll teleport to Lumbridge. Bring a few Lumbridge teleports with you, and attack them as they attempt to run.. You can attack in safe zones if they just got out of combat (run, teleport, ect.). Try it out. :)

Well that's not so much Jagex's fault as the basic nature of PvP.

 

 

 

If PvP exists, you will always have pj'ers, looters, 1/3/4 itemers, etc.

 

 

 

Yah, it was like this in the old wildy; just not as bad as it is now. But give it a few days. People are just excited for this update and wanna get a few kills. The noobiness will die down once they realize it never works here (at least in f2p) and is usually sucidal. Of course, you can get 10 kills an hour just owning these guys, but whatever.

 

 

 

In the mean time (war story time), take advantage of it and get your kill count up. They're usually easy to kill. Alot are pretty stupid, they have no idea how quickly a pure can drop your hp, and go way out of bounds of just running away. Typical encounter; level 30-45 (I'm a level 38 pure) comes on my screen. Some are actual 3 itemers, others carry cheap equipment and attack you. I usually attack them to get my drops up (so when I actually get a real kill I don't get a steel full helm :P ), they fight back. After taking them down to a bit under 1/2ish, they usually safe like crazy or have no food and run. After depleting their usually cheap food (a good majority use trout, some use salmon, and a few use tuna), or having none, they run with either no food, or with a few peices left. Being anywhere from a 30 second-2 minute run to the bank, not including slips and going the wrong way (it happens :wall: ) this gives you plently of time to, for a lack of better phrase, totally own their butts and get their goodies. And usually, I get an ammy, a bit of food, and if they had a weapon, usually a mith or addy weapon or peice of armour. Not a horrible way of getting your kill count up, and make a little something on the side. :lol:

 

 

 

NOTE: I know my encounter does not apply to 90% of your problems. It's just my personal expirence.

when will those 4 item or less "pkers" learn that they get like, nothing, at all, ever

Well I know jagex won't do anything about it, but I really have to agree with you, those 1 itemers are so annoying >.

I'm trying to understand why anyone wears full rune into the fights.

 

 

 

In order to get a decent drop, you must risk 25k in gold. A full green d'hide set, Rune Scimitar, Amulet, and helmet is around 25k if you don't protect. Why doesn't this become the new f2p pking standard as:

 

 

 

1. It waste less time, because you won't hit all those zero's with full rune.

 

2. It doesn't make the drops you get any worse.

 

 

 

I was hoping that somehow this would reverse some of the damage caused by the rwt updates...but it's still the same...nothings change...runescape still sucks.

The chance of geting a drop 4 iteming is so slim its a pointless occupation. Unless your skulled (which defeats the point of 4 iteming), you arent risking those items (under protect item prayer too) so you wont get a valuble drop.

I'm trying to understand why anyone wears full rune into the fights.

 

 

 

In order to get a decent drop, you must risk 25k in gold. A full green d'hide set, Rune Scimitar, Amulet, and helmet is around 25k if you don't protect. Why doesn't this become the new f2p pking standard as:

 

 

 

1. It waste less time, because you won't hit all those zero's with full rune.

 

2. It doesn't make the drops you get any worse.

 

 

 

I was hoping that somehow this would reverse some of the damage caused by the rwt updates...but it's still the same...nothings change...runescape still sucks.

 

 

 

How on earth do you kill someone with a half decent loot when you've got d hide and a rune scim? The only way to have a good chance at killing someone with good loot is to wear good stuff yourself, which in turn makes you a good target for other players wearing good stuff. It's a nice system, really. You're saying you want the entire standard lowered, where every pker is running around in d hide with a scim. I think that's pretty ridiculous, why should the entire standard be lowered because some players don't want to risk their precious items?

 

 

 

I get really annoyed at these 1/3/4 itemers. 3 and 4 aren't that bad because they will never skull on you, so you'd have to attack them to get in a fight. Anyone with a brain would realize it's stupid to attack a 3 itemer unless you feel like getting an easy kill. It's the 1 itemers who are annoying because they can and will skull. I wish protect items prayer was just gone, it's simply being abused by players who don't want to take any risks.

no teleporting either, me and this noob were having a fair full rune vs full rune fite and i get him down to 5hp and I have 30hp and he teles away.

 

Get your mage level up and teleblock him.

i know its stupid but i found it amusing after losing a godsword, to sara sword spec someone in full arma skulled with a ags hit a 60 and on hit them

 

(i got a mith plate becasue i didnt risk 75k :/)

It's fun to lure and watch their reactions. So I'm told.

I'm trying to understand why anyone wears full rune into the fights.

 

 

 

In order to get a decent drop, you must risk 25k in gold. A full green d'hide set, Rune Scimitar, Amulet, and helmet is around 25k if you don't protect. Why doesn't this become the new f2p pking standard as:

 

 

 

1. It waste less time, because you won't hit all those zero's with full rune.

 

2. It doesn't make the drops you get any worse.

 

 

 

I was hoping that somehow this would reverse some of the damage caused by the rwt updates...but it's still the same...nothings change...runescape still sucks.

 

 

 

How on earth do you kill someone with a half decent loot when you've got d hide and a rune scim? The only way to have a good chance at killing someone with good loot is to wear good stuff yourself, which in turn makes you a good target for other players wearing good stuff. It's a nice system, really. You're saying you want the entire standard lowered, where every pker is running around in d hide with a scim. I think that's pretty ridiculous, why should the entire standard be lowered because some players don't want to risk their precious items?

 

 

 

I get really annoyed at these 1/3/4 itemers. 3 and 4 aren't that bad because they will never skull on you, so you'd have to attack them to get in a fight. Anyone with a brain would realize it's stupid to attack a 3 itemer unless you feel like getting an easy kill. It's the 1 itemers who are annoying because they can and will skull. I wish protect items prayer was just gone, it's simply being abused by players who don't want to take any risks.

 

 

 

The people who one item (myself included) generally do it because we are unexperienced in Player verse Player combat. I myself have never been taught on the small things that you people use and have an advantage over us with, and until then I don't feel like spending money on armours and foods to find out how to do this. One-4 itemers are generally experimenting with a new technique. I bet you didn't know the best way to do everything the very first time you tried it (unless you read up about it, which is what most of the people don't do, and most of the pkers don't share).

 

 

 

Also despite this being a f2p thread many have referenced to p2p features, so if you are fighting a one itemer use smite to make them scared and make mistakes.

I've done this but I never run :| If I die I die and it's always against other 3 itemers who attack me (Also I never pked so I don't want to risk my stuff so other people can enjoy owning me :lol: )

I really don't understand all these posts about this sort of thing like its something new..

 

 

 

I mean its nothing new at all.. Just like old times..

 

 

 

There is even a post complaining about you hit first, no you hit first.. that that's anything new..

 

 

 

It was that way in old style PK and it is in new.. not going to change. If you want a real fight without the safeness move to somewhere the nearest safe zone is quite a way away and stop complaining that they attack then run into a safe zone.. I mean your hanging around there so you obviously wish to utilise it also. If you don't why not go somewhere where there are not safe zones for quite a distance.

 

 

 

Just like the old classic level one wildy PK'ers, the real PK'ing took place in deeper wildy.

While there are still some adjustments that need to be made to those experiencing PvP for the first time, I'm not necessarily in favor of 1-4 iteming. I'd prefer it if a system where it would punish you for the next 25 consecutive full-geared kills were implemented, since when you go out with just a scimitar, you're not risking jack.

let folks play the game the way they seem fit?

 

or you can just kill the 4 itemer for the lulz, if he bothers you so very much!

Well that's not so much Jagex's fault as the basic nature of PvP.

 

 

 

If PvP exists, you will always have pj'ers, looters, 1/3/4 itemers, etc.

 

 

 

Too true!

If you see a 4 itemer, just don't attack him - it's that simple.

 

They'll never skull on anyone so you don't have to worry about them attacking you, unless you're on like 10hp from a previous fight.

4-itemers annoy me, but not as much as people who tele just before you KO them... :evil:

They should make teleblock f2p, period.

 

 

 

Ancient magic freeze spells should also be available to f2p like the new ancient magic spells are available to p2p. Perhaps the new staff wouldn't have to be required (because then you would have to make the staff p2p), but something just as hard. And maybe raise the requirements +15 for each spell, and totally make barrage unavailable (ex. ice burst would be 85), just to make it even less overpowered.