brunokiller Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 That tip at the bottom is about as wrong as wrong can be. Magic level doesn't effect your magic defense at all. Its magic defense assigned to the armour + your defense level that effect the dice throws. This notion has been brought up a long time ago along with agility helps range defense. In both cases, when they had customer support, people were able to post replies from Jagex on here stating those notions to be dead wrong. How come that a guy with 85 slayer and level 10 magic(dont ask, was his goal) got absolutely raped by bloodvelds and infernal mages despite wearing near max magic defence? Magic level does matter. My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1qqqq1 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Wow. A masterfully spun tale, one which I have not seen the likes of in quite some time. Such tales of glory and riches prompt me to seek fame as one of the ranging brethren, yet I seem to have an allergy to all forms of weapons, and am not likely to pursue such ventures in the near future. Nay, I will stay to my farms and mines, my herbs and my gems, and wait until I find suitable medication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Lol, this looks interesting :D. Can't wait to read it lol. "To do all that one is able to do, is to be a man; to do all that one would like to do, is to be a god." - Napoleon I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golvellius Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 That tip at the bottom is about as wrong as wrong can be. Magic level doesn't effect your magic defense at all. Its magic defense assigned to the armour + your defense level that effect the dice throws. This notion has been brought up a long time ago along with agility helps range defense. In both cases, when they had customer support, people were able to post replies from Jagex on here stating those notions to be dead wrong. How come that a guy with 85 slayer and level 10 magic(dont ask, was his goal) got absolutely raped by bloodvelds and infernal mages despite wearing near max magic defence? Magic level does matter. It doesn't matter. I get raped on occasion too and I have 99 magic and defense. One can't seem to buy enough magic defense in this game, because it is heavily weighted towards magic accuracy. Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitewraith7 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 good read :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hevendor_Guy Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 That tip at the bottom is about as wrong as wrong can be. Magic level doesn't effect your magic defense at all. Its magic defense assigned to the armour + your defense level that effect the dice throws. This notion has been brought up a long time ago along with agility helps range defense. In both cases, when they had customer support, people were able to post replies from Jagex on here stating those notions to be dead wrong. How come that a guy with 85 slayer and level 10 magic(dont ask, was his goal) got absolutely raped by bloodvelds and infernal mages despite wearing near max magic defence? Magic level does matter. Lol'ing that Golv is the one disputing this :lol: Of course magic level matters. OT: Was fairly pointless read...I thought the Times was more like a newspaper than preschool story time. Obviously not. There's cake through here, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudecrush8 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Nice job :) That was very well put, I like reading a story in the times; which, I might add, is not preschool storytime... "300 programmers make their futile but glorious last stand against 1000000 angry players in The battle of Misthalin. They fight for honor, glory and new content sacrificing themselves so that their game may live on. This is Madness! This Is JAGEEEX!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legilgalad2 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Great read, something different than the usual letters sent in. Loved the 'try to cure me of my chronic breathing' quote :D Woodcutting does not raise your combat level because most people do not play as yew trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huta Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 That tip at the bottom is about as wrong as wrong can be. Magic level doesn't effect your magic defense at all. Its magic defense assigned to the armour + your defense level that effect the dice throws. This notion has been brought up a long time ago along with agility helps range defense. In both cases, when they had customer support, people were able to post replies from Jagex on here stating those notions to be dead wrong. How come that a guy with 85 slayer and level 10 magic(dont ask, was his goal) got absolutely raped by bloodvelds and infernal mages despite wearing near max magic defence? Magic level does matter. It doesn't matter. I get raped on occasion too and I have 99 magic and defense. One can't seem to buy enough magic defense in this game, because it is heavily weighted towards magic accuracy. You must not use magic much. I've pvped enough with magic that after 15 casts or so I can guess fairly accurately what your magic level is. Magic has an ENORMOUS effect on your magic defense. You seriously need to pvp more. I mean seriously, if you've ever used mage on a pure, you would know that magic raises magic defense. A pure wearing black chaps, ghostly top, and a glory with 99 magic is several times harder to hit than some random guy with 70 magic and defense wearing the same gear, even though his defense level is a full 69 levels higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golvellius Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 That tip at the bottom is about as wrong as wrong can be. Magic level doesn't effect your magic defense at all. Its magic defense assigned to the armour + your defense level that effect the dice throws. This notion has been brought up a long time ago along with agility helps range defense. In both cases, when they had customer support, people were able to post replies from Jagex on here stating those notions to be dead wrong. How come that a guy with 85 slayer and level 10 magic(dont ask, was his goal) got absolutely raped by bloodvelds and infernal mages despite wearing near max magic defence? Magic level does matter. It doesn't matter and no amount of defense could make that fly. I get raped on occasion too and I have 99 magic and defense. One can't seem to buy enough magic defense in this game, because it is heavily weighted towards magic accuracy. You must not use magic much. I've pvped enough with magic that after 15 casts or so I can guess fairly accurately what your magic level is. Magic has an ENORMOUS effect on your magic defense. You seriously need to pvp more. I mean seriously, if you've ever used mage on a pure, you would know that magic raises magic defense. A pure wearing black chaps, ghostly top, and a glory with 99 magic is several times harder to hit than some random guy with 70 magic and defense wearing the same gear, even though his defense level is a full 69 levels higher. The gear you described is tragic. Missing would be bad luck on the mages part. I'm talking me wearing full arma and DFS, versus ahrims and DFS and getting hitting half the time. I'm talking people in arma using magic and stopping me with an arma top, DFS, and dharok legs. Magic is most certainly the most accurate combat skill. Why don't you think they never bothered upping the max magic hits after they pumped range and melee up for so long? Don't need to. You hit way more often even if they wear the best stuff. Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davo734 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 a very well written article, good luck with the ranging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huta Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 The gear you described is tragic. Missing would be bad luck on the mages part. I'm talking me wearing full arma and DFS, versus ahrims and DFS and getting hitting half the time. I'm talking people in arma using magic and stopping me with an arma top, DFS, and dharok legs. Magic is most certainly the most accurate combat skill. Why don't you think they never bothered upping the max magic hits after they pumped range and melee up for so long? Don't need to. You hit way more often even if they wear the best stuff. Dude, you really are ignorant about combat. I'm maxed melee with 99 magic. Even in solid mage bonus gear I have accuracy problems against anybody with a decent magic level and gear. Ranged is the most accurate combat skill versus a maxed player, with melee coming in second. Magic is pisspoor inaccurate. Sure you aren't going to miss that often, the average 125 has 80ish magic, but when you're talking maxed vs maxed magic is the underdog in accuracy and damage. You want to test it out? I'd be happy to meet you at the duel arena. Run a mageboxing round with my stats at normal, then get my magic drained on ice somewhere and superset my def back to normal. Trust me, you WILL notice a massive difference. You really can't get your information from CW man, that's just not real pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03warrior Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Great story. It makes me want to start to range dragons instead of melee. Also magic definitely effects your magic defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoolj Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Wear a ring of life, and go nuts. Maybe someone ought to tell this ranger about the luverly animals called avianses :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARoseThorn Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Very nice article. =D> lovely to see someone having fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 That tip at the bottom is about as wrong as wrong can be. Magic level doesn't effect your magic defense at all. Its magic defense assigned to the armour + your defense level that effect the dice throws. This notion has been brought up a long time ago along with agility helps range defense. In both cases, when they had customer support, people were able to post replies from Jagex on here stating those notions to be dead wrong. Sorry youre wrong, magic level does in fact have a huge effect on magic defense and it has been stated by jagex that this is true. It wasnt always like this and I dont remember exactly when it was changed but it was sometime around when rs classic changed to rs2 or when they changed how combat levels were calculated I cant remember which. http://www.runehead.com/clans/personal. ... clan=tipit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthnixon16 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Wear a ring of life, and go nuts. Maybe someone ought to tell this ranger about the luverly animals called avianses :) being around 70 range and low hp it would be a waste. i don't know if its just me but this artical seemed to lack purpose? I mean yes ok nice story as we reminise about those newbie days. overall nice little story =D> My IQ is 146 - Free-IQTest.net - IQ Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drags8696 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 sorry if this has been posted but the did u know part of this artical is only partialy right. Magic defence is bassed on both defence lvl and magic lvl this is stated in the magic faq section in the manual. but for the overall artical i must say power to the ranger here, even thought i hate it myself. now if only i can find a monster that pays for its death by runes not arrows i will be set. (note: i know all about metal drags ppl for me they arent worth it.) Words are only interpertaions of opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oegly41 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 i don't know if its just me but this artical seemed to lack purpose? I mean yes ok nice story as we reminise about those newbie days. If you ask me, being a good read is a purpose indeed! : And magic does affect your magic defence. Filesharer.org - Upload your mugshot to support The Pirate Bay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hzwquy Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Nice story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphakoldes Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 The read was mediocore for me. Like some others said, it's just a reminisince peice. And guys, make sure you read the tip at the end carefully. They aren't saying magic does or doesn't effect your magic defense. We all know it contributes... the discussion was if it helps MORE than defense levels (not defense from armors). -Man, I really do love Runescape, and I'm sure if it was a real person I would of asked it to marry me by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ximigda Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Nice story, a good read :) I really liked reading it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazi Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Very well-written, and reminds me of some of my early range training. =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laikrob Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 And guys, make sure you read the tip at the end carefully. They aren't saying magic does or doesn't effect your magic defense. We all know it contributes... the discussion was if it helps MORE than defense levels (not defense from armors). Alphakoldes is right, it seems like some of you misunderstood what the debate was about.Did You Know... ...that your defense against Magic attacks is based more on your Magic level rather then your Defense level? I believe this is inaccurate. What I think Trembake/Golvellius07 was trying to say, was that his armour affected his Magic defence more than his Magic lvl/xp (and he has 17.3M Magic xp, which is above average) at his level. Call me biased ( ) but I agree with him. You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidium Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 That tip at the bottom is about as wrong as wrong can be. Magic level doesn't effect your magic defense at all. Its magic defense assigned to the armour + your defense level that effect the dice throws. This notion has been brought up a long time ago along with agility helps range defense. In both cases, when they had customer support, people were able to post replies from Jagex on here stating those notions to be dead wrong. this quote from trembake or however you spell his name seems to imply that he thinks that, to quote him, "magic level doesn't effect (should be affect actually) your magic defense at all" which is complete bull imo...i'm maxed out melee (99 atk, str, def, hp), 99 range, and 97 magic and many times when mini games such as castle wars or clan wars i find it much harder hitting people with high magic even if they are wearing melee armour...and likewise there have been many occasions when magers miss me completely when i'm wearing full rune...and i'm not talking about once in a blue moon i'm talking about more than 3 times in a row even when i do not have any sort of prayer activated...magic level definitely helps your magic def but like what the mod before me said perhaps it would be more logical to say that defense plays a larger role... but to say that magic level has no effect on your magic defense at all is... :shame: maxed out melee on 10/10/08, current goal: 94/99 cookinglife may be unfair, but why can't it be unfair in my favor?my fake plant died because i forgot to pretend to water it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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