NuckingFuts Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I currently going for a Rune Defender as I write this (Currently on black, and used around 1.5k tokens) I agree/respect the fact for you being annoyed, having killed so much and not seen any reward would be annoying. But I don't think they should change it, having it as one of those random/hard to obtain items makes it more fun and enjoyable for when you actually succeed with the task :P Happy Christmas BTW :) - Nucking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciel Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It's pure luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krimm911 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I just remember it took me the longest to get bronze and rune, but everything in between was a pretty speedy process. I think it took me 5k tokens in all to get my first rune defender. Also ring of wealth my help? I think I remember a topic about it a year ago if it helps or not, but always worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 You were unlucky. No, it's not pure luck :XD: , theres a difference. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 going around the room does not help... when i collected them heavily i trained on the same four for long periods of time and got a defender every 15 - 20 minutes Considering his avatar, I think we should listen to Smapla. I think I'll go back for another round and get a second rune defender. Those cyclops are rather easy to kill, drop a good number of black knives, and hey, why risk losing my only one and starting from scratch again? But anyway, I suggest you get into the mindset not to get a rune defender, but to get XP, bones, etc. They are pretty weak and offer up some tasty XP, though not the fastest. Think of the defenders as a surprise. And make sure you always keep your second highest defender in the bank or when you get to rune, 2 rune defenders. You surely don't want to have to restart the process all over again :lol: Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 It's pure luck. No such thing as luck on a computer. I program (not an expert, to be sure :P ), and you cannot create or do anything random on a computer. There is a SET drop rate somewhere in Jagex servers, if you kill a googolplex of them, you'll get exactly that many kills, on average, between defenders. I'd write out a googolplex to show you it, but even if each numeral was the size of an atom there wouldn't be enough space in the universe (by a factor of 24+) to write it. And that's writing the digits, not the number itself. (Yeah, I like numbers). Still, it's not random, it's precise and accurate. Just because you can only view a tiny sample range doesn't make it 'luck', it's like saying that rolling a dice is 'luck' - a machine designed to roll a die exactly the same way every time will get exactly the same number every time. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingkapugen Posted December 25, 2008 Author Share Posted December 25, 2008 It's pure luck. No such thing as luck on a computer. I program (not an expert, to be sure :P ), and you cannot create or do anything random on a computer. There is a SET drop rate somewhere in Jagex servers, if you kill a googolplex of them, you'll get exactly that many kills, on average, between defenders. I'd write out a googolplex to show you it, but even if each numeral was the size of an atom there wouldn't be enough space in the universe (by a factor of 24+) to write it. And that's writing the digits, not the number itself. (Yeah, I like numbers). Still, it's not random, it's precise and accurate. Just because you can only view a tiny sample range doesn't make it 'luck', it's like saying that rolling a dice is 'luck' - a machine designed to roll a die exactly the same way every time will get exactly the same number every time. :o nicely sed :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroclixplay Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Keep at it mate bronze takes the longest to get from everything ive heard then it slowly starts becoming a more common drop so your getting defenders faster rune is fairly common was getting one every 20 minutes today when i was getting some for PKing Visage!!! 24/1/08Fire cape acheived 8:48 pm 9/10/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryltoh Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ring of wealth people!!Although i took just under 2k tokens to get 3 defenders. The ring will pay for itself very quickly! Come 1 come all get you ring of wealth now at the ge for a low low price of 32.3k!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2222 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ring of wealth people!!Although i took just under 2k tokens to get 3 defenders. The ring will pay for itself very quickly! Come 1 come all get you ring of wealth now at the ge for a low low price of 32.3k!! ^ This. I got 4 Rune Defs in 500 Tokens with ROW. That might be just me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homowz Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 its the bronze and mith 1 that took the longest time(52k tokens 4 bronze, 800 for mith) the rune 1 is the fastest: i killed 2cyclops after the addy and had 2 rune def... :lol: [hide]visage drop 11/01/09goals:all skills 70+ (completed)all skills 80+98% Of teenagers surround their minds with rap music, if you're part of the 2% that stayed with rock, put this in your signature, ROCK IS BETTER![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior5024 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Heh, I've had several attempts to gain defenders, I have an iron and haven't had any motivation to continue. It takes to long, plus I have a DFS. I don't melee much anyways. So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripsis Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I agree that it's absolutely ridiculous. My boyfriend and I spent hours trying to get our defenders until I finally just went to bed, and I haven't had the motivation to continue since. My story isn't quite as bad as the OP's.. at least I went through over 1,000 tickets after several hours and got up to mithril, but it still takes a ridiculous amount of time. - 99 fletching | 99 thieving | 99 construction | 99 herblore | 99 smithing | 99 woodcutting - - 99 runecrafting - 99 prayer - 125 combat - 95 farming - - Blog - DeviantART - Book Reviews & Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retired Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 LOL you must have done something wrong, or dident check the drops or something. because i was like 80 something combat and got 1000 tokens at went from bronze to rune in like an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1reatalot Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 attitle-IS FTW it's random mate, just keep trying :ugeek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higibob Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 i used like 1.3k just for bronze, be patient. you will get it, but only if you stay at it. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srix Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 it took me about 1600 tickets to get rune defender i was so pissed My Guide To Range Slaying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDT Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Considering that most high-leveled players use the Rune Defender over even a DFS, I don't see why people complain that it takes hours to get. The droprate is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hitm4g3u Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Took me 800 tokens to get two rune defenders on my zerker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4ngewarlord Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 i just got my steel and it took me about 300 tokens but iron only took 30. Gamertag: EFs Predator.Games I play: Halo 3, Halo wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibberEsh Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Lately, there's been a lot of threads about defenders lol and I don't get it at all. It took me ~1.5k tokens to get 4 rune defenders and my stats were like 70s. Unless they nerfed it somehow since I got them 2 years ago, which I wouldn't understand why, I think everyone's just having bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imamonkey Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I don't know if this is the case for everyone, I am sure it is not. But it was the case for me. Every defender I got came easier. Bronze took the longest for me. Each time I got a new one took less kills than the last one. You would think it would have been the other way around, but that is how it worked out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 52k tokens 4 bronze 52k tokens? That's 87 hours, I find that rather hard to believe. You would have gotten half your combat XP from that alone... Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 It took me about 5K tokens to get the lot, the rune defender took about 3K. The rest were comparatively quick. It's just randomness, you should be grateful for the xp. It might be more worthwhile if you use sc armour and your normal weapons, you get through more food, but the occasional level makes up for it. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polnar Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 "52k tokens 4 bronze, 800 for mith" rofl that's clearly not true. you guys must be doing something wrong because I'm able to get all of them within 800 tokens, I had 13 rune in 1100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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