Ned Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Plasma, it seems like a hollow "box" of white water. Could it be the waterfall from the fairy ring area? I'm thinking of looking there. B_Ryan, no reason to shoot you lol. I think you have a point though, it was mentioned somewhere. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrmn Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Plasma, it seems like a hollow "box" of white water. Could it be the waterfall from the fairy ring area? I'm thinking of looking there. B_Ryan, no reason to shoot you lol. I think you have a point though, it was mentioned somewhere.[/quote Unless its some underground part of it , which we cannot see... No. The waterfall is much smaller and theres terrain around ait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 I guess I'll bring a spade :twss: If that's the case, I have no idea what it is lol. A theory: zomg runescape global warming!!!! the sewers are starting to flood! omg eventually it'll leak out and draynor will drown!!!!!!! :twss: :twss: Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entangle Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Common! I remember you could see Taverly Dungeon from Entrana Dungeon, and there was some part of Temple of Ikov from inside Legends Dungeon. Didn't read the other replies, so I don't know if this was said already. Quit RS 2005 | RSN: JohnalderBack as of 5/7/2008!Dragon Drops: x1 Med, x5 Legs, x4 Skirts, x25 Boots, x1 Visage | x7 Abyssal Whips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Common! :twss: Nope those haven't been said before, are they still there? I might as well pic them. Entrana dungeon was shown as being part of Taverley dungeon in the KBase, it was taken away after a few weeks. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llVIU Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 [hide=2005 Christmas event near pyramid plunder entrance (underground)][/hide] If someone has problems taking pics of an area like these please pm me, I'm really interested in these kind of things +Where exactly is the pic taken named "Unidentified Beacon Room directly next to Clan Wars FFA" in the first post? Goal: getting all skills to 99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Whoa, thanks! Is that still there or was it removed after 05? Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llVIU Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Still there, you can see it from 3 differant places in pyramid plunder but I took the clearest one I'm gonna take more pics from the minigame and edit this post Edit: here's more pics that I took along the way, I didn't include the minimap because you just couldn't see or it wasn't needed at all [hide=I think it's the slayer dungeon, pic taken west of troll generals spot in trollheim][/hide] [hide=Just a weird pit-like area that jagex didn't take care of, it's north-west of trollheim herb spot][/hide] [hide=H.A.M. prison, taken in lumby cellar][/hide] [hide=lumby slayer dungeon/way to guthix tears quest, note that there's a gap and lumby dungeon is on a lower level][/hide] [hide=pic taken in pyramid plunder minigame start room, it's probably from contact quest][/hide] [hide=north-west of first pyramid plunder room, unknown area to me][/hide] [hide=north-east of 3rd pyramid plunder room, it's probably from a quest but I forgot the name][/hide] Please add/edit anything you like about the pics I got the best zoom-out you can get on rs so it's easy for me to take pics like that :) P.S. I found this funny, a bit related... [hide=a gate that guards an empty desert, it wasn't ment to show what was behind the gate][/hide] Goal: getting all skills to 99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Runescape is probably about twice the area coed by the world map. Every entrance, ladder, etc that loads a new level, is a teleport to another area of the map. I once tried to figure out where zanaris is by useing the enchanted gem to talk to her while using the fairy rings to move around the world. By noting which way my charecter turned, I could get an estimation. I don't rember the result, and the precision of this method is seriously lacking, but zanaris is somewhere above miscellania I think. Actualy, most things seem to be above the wild, probably because they know they will not expand teh map in that direction. There are several dungeons that you can see other dungeons from, so I figure there all in the same area. To answer the question, yes, runescape is one single plane. Think about this. When you go up above ground level in say a city, there has to be an entire city someplace for EACH level for you to view. When you are on these floors, the fake city is simply moved below ground level. Ever wonder why you cant see people on ground level from a second or third (or fourth) floor? Thats why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Wouldn't it be great if we could get a world map of the entire world as it actually is :D ah, but then it would make absolutely no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Amazing finds, llVIU, how big is your screen? :twss: Mine is 28" ftw :) Having problems uploading images, I'll add yours as soon as I can! Indeed the world map would make no sense. I want to see it :twisted: Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Some news: I visited the FoG cave, and the green cave that can been seen from Corp is most definitely NOT FoG. Need ID on: Green Cave Beacon Room Help is appreciated :) Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piu Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Some news: I visited the FoG cave, and the green cave that can been seen from Corp is most definitely NOT FoG. Need ID on: Green Cave Beacon Room Help is appreciated :) I think its Stronghold Security. [hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide]Never gonna give you up.[/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide]"We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 That seems right, I'll check it out. If not, maybe the Player Safety place. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 +Where exactly is the pic taken named "Unidentified Beacon Room directly next to Clan Wars FFA" in the first post? Safe FFA, east side, barely seen on minimap, if not at all. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dax Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Well... I've always thought that all underground/above places in games were placed in a far off area that's unacessible, like, for example - Level 107 Widerness, waaaaaaay north of anything. This is what I have always thought... :? #KERR2016/17/18/19/20/21. #rpgformod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 It would explain why there are so many random places all around that area. Probably 70+ wild is total blackness, where every dungeon in the game exists. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amundogus2 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Doesn't it actually make sense for the Mort'ton shade tomb to be near the Barrows tunnels? Because they ARE near eachother? :) "There are only two strategies in war. Move forward or change. The victor is the first to realise that when he cannot move forward he must change." ~ Mod Mark H ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Doesn't it actually make sense for the Mort'ton shade tomb to be near the Barrows tunnels? Because they ARE near eachother? :) Why can we see through walls, then? They should have all the dungeons etc. too far apart from any other to see them. It makes sense, why would we be able to see through walls? [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Settelaar Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 What about this one? Lava, right next to the Lederhosen random event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 I'll probably resort the images into "Believable" and "Unbelievable" or something like that. That lava image is a great find! Still having problems adding other people's images for some stupid reason. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Settelaar Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 And this is a picture of a boat, west of the ground floor of the Stronghold of Security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Mage Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 NO IT"S NOT A 3D ARRAY. Really, how stubborn can you be... JAVA ONLY SUPPORTS UP TO 2D ARRAYS! I LOOKED INTO THE WAY THE DATA IS STORED, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE LAYOUT ON YOUR PHYSICAL MEMORY THAT IT'S A 2D ARRAY! Ever heard of pointers in C-family? JAVA uses a similar technique although it's made completely transparant for the programmer. This is what makes java so easy, but also makes java terribly slow and easily "hackable"!Technically, Java only supports 1D arrays. Higher dimension arrays can be done as arrays of arrays. Thus, there is NO limit to the number of dimensions you can have. For example, the following code makes a 3D integer array with size 5*5*5: int[][][] stuff = new int[5][5][5]; (This can be thought of as an array of 2D arrays, which in turn are arrays of 1D arrays.) Also, I don't know where you got 2D physical memory from, but again, computer memory is really just 1D. Pointers are essentially integers that refer to a certain place in memory. This is where the 4 GB memory on 32 bit systems comes from; 32 bits of data can hold at most 2^32 (4,294,967,296) different possible values. My personal opinion is that JaGEX implemented the map as a single 2D array with stairs and similar things acting as "teleports" to a separate location in the array. Beat me to saying it, all languages that I know of that have support for arrays support n-deep arrays. In fact in c++ the way multi dimension arrays are handled is actually just a overloaded way of accessing a 1-deep array. In c++ if you declare: int size = 2; int ctr = 0; int array[size][size][size]; int i, j, k; for (i = 0; i < size; i++) for (j = 0; j < size; j++) for (k = 0; k < size; k++) { array[i][j][k] = ctr; ctr++; } would result in: array[0][0][0]=0 array[0][0][1]=1 array[0][1][0]=2 array[0][1][1]=3 array[1][0][0]=4 array[1][0][1]=5 array[1][1][0]=6 array[1][1][1]=7 however in c++ an array is stored sequentially in memory. Assume the pointer named array points to a memory location of 0x0001 then the following would also be valid ways of accessing the data, albiet as a one dimensional array. *(array+0)=0x0001=0 *(array+1)=0x0002=1 *(array+2)=0x0003=2 *(array+3)=0x0004=3 *(array+4)=0x0005=4 *(array+5)=0x0006=5 *(array+6)=0x0007=6 *(array+7)=0x0008=7 So pulli23, next time you decide to go off on somebody be sure you have your facts right. Also, java just like all .NET languages use a JIT compiler and therefore are naturally easier to decompile unlike assembly languages like c++; however, by using obfuscation and encryption within the code it can be made near-impossible to decompile. You make it sound like running through a few level 87 monsters is hard which it really shouldn't be at your level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I don't have teh pics, but the arzanian mine (the one with 128 gold rocks) is very close to where Jagex put the areas for the morton minigame where you guide people to and from paterdomus and some town in the swamp (having some trouble with names tonight). I should mention that whether Java supposts a 3d array is completly beside the point. We KNOW the RuneScape map is 2D for all elevations end of story. Within this massive 2D plane are I belive 3 levels. 0 is used for things like a river bed (it used to be ground level but they changed it with HD), 1 is ground level, and 2 is anything that extends beyons the first floor (I am using american floor standards here). So the ground, walls up to the first floor are all level 1. This means that when you are on a floor other than ground, you are NOT in another level. If you are on the second story of a building, all the streets and scenery below you are on the 0 level rather than the 1 where they usualy are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I found a room I didn't recognize when I went to the Port Sarim rat pits for my Achievement Diary. [hide=Image][/hide] Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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