Randox Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Perplexing, But I support the theory that Runescape is all 1 level, instead of "floors". What this doesn't explain is the fact that if something is dropped on the floor below you in places like Varrock East Bank it shows on the "image" of the lower floor. This is where the "Uninhabited Varrock plane" next to the Clan Wars FFA comes into play. I think that, where applicable, items dropped in certain areas also get "duplicated" and placed on the corresponding area accordingly. A great example is Castle Wars where, if you go up the steps, you can see the arrows and other drops on the ground below you, but no people. (This only works on the main structures and not the wall obviously, but you see my meaning) By this logic, we can also conclude that PCs, NPCs, interactable scenery, and resources share a "plane", whereas items have a different "plane" entirely. This is how two people may fight the same NPC or gather the same resource simultaneously, but cannot pick up the same item. Also, for a long time the cutscenes in Monkey Madness were glitched to where you could walk around these "Ethereal Planes" (as I will refer to them in future posts) and actually interact with some of the surroundings, including the subjects of the cutscene, which would always give the reply "null". - This is actually smarter on JaGEx's part mainly because it is too cumbersome to have too many things going on in one spot, so they spread it out and make the game as a whole more efficient and less laggy. This is why you see many low-traffic areas tight together. I will have to do more research, but I will be sure to post any more findings or areas where this phenomenon takes place. I have another place where this happens. In my POH, while hosting a party in rimmy, I noticed that a hwite dot flashed on my minimap where the entrance is while I was on my top floor, I also could see new people entering, but they only flashed into existance for under a second. So I could tell when new arrivels came, but could only see them for a fraction of a second beofre they disapeared. My theory on this is that the game puts there avatar in the 0 level of my POH's second floor during loading so I know when people arrive, then moves them to level 1 of my POH main floor once they have completed loading. I to greatly support all of runescape existing on the same level 1. Think about it, it there were multiple layers for all levels of a city say, then the ENTIRE MAP qould occupy so much more memory, because there would be so many blocks of memory for empty space. The data array would have to exist as a cube, but most of the cube would be a void (as demonstrated by a RSC glitch). It is much easier to duplicate some parts and work with the 3 (or 4?) levels. About dungeons matching up, the map creator progam surely has a grid, so it would not be hard to make everythign the exact right size at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killzre Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Umm, if this has already been posted then don't worry, but has anyone seen a "path" thingy in the south/west corner or the maze random event? Nice idea about the true map though \ Sig............... Is for sigpeeps. THE BUNNY!!!!.^ ^|o.0||_|_| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 25, 2008 Author Share Posted December 25, 2008 I'll be sure to check that out. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krampell Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 The green unidentified cavern looks alot like the waterbirth dungeon colors, maybe it's somewhere around there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racheya Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Wow this topic has grown fast. :shock: I'm really intreigued to see how the Runescape world actually pans out. I'm keeping my eye out for extra things in dungeons (though it's fairly difficult because I'm on standard def :cry: ) but I've been using my enchanted gem to talk to my slayer master and when I was in the ice cave by Mudskippers point which is south of my slayer master, I kept turning west... I edit for the [Tip.It Times]. I rarely write in [My Blog]. I am an [Ex-Moderator]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 I'll see if I can see Corp from waterbirth =D Racheya I tried using the Slayer Gem in random places, with really weird results too. For instance, you will face north (when you should face southeast) from Yanille Watchtower 3rd floor. You face the correct direction on the 2nd floor. So 3rd floor is off map for some reason :o Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cydoor Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I'll see if I can see Corp from waterbirth =D Racheya I tried using the Slayer Gem in random places, with really weird results too. For instance, you will face north (when you should face southeast) from Yanille Watchtower 3rd floor. You face the correct direction on the 2nd floor. So 3rd floor is off map for some reason :o Someone who hasn't completed watchtower quest, should try the slayer gem on the 3rd floor. I think the room with that wizard's machine working is located somewhere else and the one with the machine not working is located in the correct place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 I'll see if I can see Corp from waterbirth =D Racheya I tried using the Slayer Gem in random places, with really weird results too. For instance, you will face north (when you should face southeast) from Yanille Watchtower 3rd floor. You face the correct direction on the 2nd floor. So 3rd floor is off map for some reason :o Someone who hasn't completed watchtower quest, should try the slayer gem on the 3rd floor. I think the room with that wizard's machine working is located somewhere else and the one with the machine not working is located in the correct place. Yeah, that makes the most sense. Since it's an old quest they would make it that way, new things such as the Balloon quest were programmed differently so a separate square for activated Balloons wasn't needed (that's what I think, at least). Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Bump. #-o Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piu Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 I have another place where this happens. In my POH, while hosting a party in rimmy, I noticed that a hwite dot flashed on my minimap where the entrance is while I was on my top floor, I also could see new people entering, but they only flashed into existance for under a second. So I could tell when new arrivels came, but could only see them for a fraction of a second beofre they disapeared. My theory on this is that the game puts there avatar in the 0 level of my POH's second floor during loading so I know when people arrive, then moves them to level 1 of my POH main floor once they have completed loading. I followed my friend into FoG, I moved 2 step to the west before running to east, so yeah. :thumbup: [hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide]Never gonna give you up.[/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide]"We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 I have another place where this happens. In my POH, while hosting a party in rimmy, I noticed that a hwite dot flashed on my minimap where the entrance is while I was on my top floor, I also could see new people entering, but they only flashed into existance for under a second. So I could tell when new arrivels came, but could only see them for a fraction of a second beofre they disapeared. My theory on this is that the game puts there avatar in the 0 level of my POH's second floor during loading so I know when people arrive, then moves them to level 1 of my POH main floor once they have completed loading. I followed my friend into FoG, I moved 2 step to the west before running to east, so yeah. :thumbup: Nice job :D Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Actually, clarification? Did you run a few steps west and then change to east or did you manually click to go east yourself? It could have been that weird run lag that happens sometimes. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piu Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Actually, clarification? Did you run a few steps west and then change to east or did you manually click to go east yourself? It could have been that weird run lag that happens sometimes. I don't know, but I can 75% gurantee he was teleported to east for a split second then west. Run lags last longer. That was a little turn to the westm then a run to the east. [hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide]Never gonna give you up.[/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide]"We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Actually, clarification? Did you run a few steps west and then change to east or did you manually click to go east yourself? It could have been that weird run lag that happens sometimes. I don't know, but I can 75% gurantee he was teleported to east for a split second then west. Run lags last longer. That was a little turn to the westm then a run to the east. Ahh, interesting. Maybe that's one of those "loading planes" we were speculating about. EDIT: 4k views! Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Noes, went to page 2 :cry: Bump. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightfox Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 hey people, this night i was at barrows and i was just wondering whose sarcophagus lies WEST of torag's; if u stand in the west of his cave u see in the west part another crypt with a sarcophagus.... p.s. same thin in guthans cave; east of his cave is another cave.... edit: its ahrims cave.. notheast of guthan's is another cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizz Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 hey people, this night i was at barrows and i was just wondering whose sarcophagus lies WEST of torag's; if u stand in the west of his cave u see in the west part another crypt with a sarcophagus.... p.s. same thin in guthans cave; east of his cave is another cave.... edit: its ahrims cave.. notheast of guthan's is another cave. I think that's Veracs. Wongton is better than me in anyway~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackish Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think I was wrong... :uhh: :-w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atom Smash40 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 idk where this is...it appears to be 3 rooms..all with portals/doors. i was thinking temple knights testing place but idk...does look white enough. edit: sorry for small size...i dont know how to make it bigger and clearer heres a pic of the material: this is by arzinian gold mines (between a rock), all the way to the west portion ~ 3,072nd to 99 Mining on August 30th, 2009 ~~ 112,084th to 99 Magic on April 16th, 2011 ~~ 131,681st to 99 Crafting on March 29, 2019 ~~ 178,385th to 99 Prayer on April 2, 2019 ~~ 234,921st to 99 Defence on May 9, 2019 ~~ 173,480th to 99 Herblore on June 21, 2019 ~~ 155,160th to 99 Smithing on July 16, 2019 ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 [hide=Omg Big Image][/hide] idk where this is...it appears to be 3 rooms..all with portals/doors. i was thinking temple knights testing place but idk...does look white enough. edit: sorry for small size...i dont know how to make it bigger and clearer heres a pic of the material: [hide=Omg Big Image][/hide] this is by arzinian gold mines (between a rock), all the way to the west portion The minimap looks like it's part of Falador Castle. Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maze Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 [hide=Omg Big Image][/hide] idk where this is...it appears to be 3 rooms..all with portals/doors. i was thinking temple knights testing place but idk...does look white enough. edit: sorry for small size...i dont know how to make it bigger and clearer heres a pic of the material: [hide=Omg Big Image][/hide] this is by arzinian gold mines (between a rock), all the way to the west portion The minimap looks like it's part of Falador Castle. It does look like Falador Castle, but I don't know. I don't remember any portal in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 If it looks like Falador Castle (which I agree that it does), it probably is related to the Temple Knights training area. It would make sense to train you in rooms that had the same style as their castle. So, four total areas seen near the Gold Mine. One that should be under Lumbridge, one that is a minigame, and one that is a quest, and another unknown one. So obviously the Gold Mine is nowhere near keldagrim or Keldagrim is nowhere near the entrance. Awesome finds =D> Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 This bump is so invisible that nobody will notice it. O:) :anxious: :twss: Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everyonedies Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 There is something next to the hellhounds in the traverly dungen. It should be straight forward as to what it is because you can see the icons of an arrow(range shop) and another icon i couldnt figure out. http://www.clanhavok.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippodo Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 [hide=Omg Big Image][/hide] idk where this is...it appears to be 3 rooms..all with portals/doors. i was thinking temple knights testing place but idk...does look white enough. edit: sorry for small size...i dont know how to make it bigger and clearer heres a pic of the material: [hide=Omg Big Image][/hide] this is by arzinian gold mines (between a rock), all the way to the west portion The minimap looks like it's part of Falador Castle. It does look like Falador Castle, but I don't know. I don't remember any portal in there. Maybe it's the Champion's Arena, the one under the Champion's Guild :?: Due to my epic stats, I have now started WGS (but I still hate spoilers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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