December 15, 200817 yr This is to discuss and compare the standard weapons. Dagger, Longsword, Scimitar, Battleaxe, Warhammer, Two-Hander. I will go over the basic facts of the weapons, and some information. Dagger=Fast Speed weapon, lowest damage. Their advantage is that they can be poisoned. Mace=Crush, faster but weaker than B axe/2h Claws=Not used much, if at all. Only notable one is the Dragon ones Longsword=Probably the worst type. Their damage is on-par with the dagger, 3:5 hit ratio to Scimitar. Nothing good about them. Scimitar= Most consistance damage. Fast as dagger, but more damage. Battleaxe=Slower speed, but more damage. A advantage is the crush setting. Warhammer=Similar to the Battleaxe, but more crush oriented. Halberd=Slow as 2h, less damage, but can reach. Used with safespot, but isin't great in close combat. Two-Hander=Highest damage, but slow. Also cannot weild a shield-slot item. Used for k0s in PvP. So the question is, which would you like to use, and why. I don't want this is become a flame-fest. Back up your opinion with evidence. Do not post before reading some posts. Dungeoneering isn't a skill. I'm faster than bots at Sorceress Garden. PM me if you want to chat. My PM is always off. My keyboard is on fire. Want some?
December 15, 200817 yr Longsword=Probably the worst type. Their damage is on-par with the dagger, 3:5 hit ratio to Scimitar. Nothing good about them. An unbiased comparison? :wall: For me, the scimitar. Commonly known to be the best weapon out there... :ohnoes:My Guide on Obby Mauling!
December 15, 200817 yr You have forgotten claws. Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff
December 15, 200817 yr Scimitar is a little slower than a dagger... or has that changed? Either way, saying the longsword is the worst weapon is not biased. It has no advantages over any weapon. And to the above, he has forgotten many weapons. I has herd, that lesser demons, MAY or may not, drop tormented demons. \:D/ :roll: :x :D :o :shock: :? 8-) :lol: Due to a typo, I am now stuck with 1k dragon darts and no buyer. Can I has bail out from tip.it plox?
December 15, 200817 yr You missed out maces and halberds. Also, scims aren't dagger speed, and longswords are an incredibly useful weapon, personaly i prefer them to scimitars Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^
December 15, 200817 yr Longsword speed to Scimitar speed is very inaccurate there. 5:6 Ratio. Longsword hits harder and is the most consistent. Unbiased requires accuracy and not just a lack of "OMFG SCIMMY P00NZZZ!!!" OH S***! He/she/it is back!
December 16, 200817 yr Scimitar is a little slower than a dagger... or has that changed? Either way, saying the longsword is the worst weapon is not biased. It has no advantages over any weapon. And to the above, he has forgotten many weapons. I think you mean unbias. But it does have an advantage it's special can hit high damage which is a plus for the people who do use it. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012
December 16, 200817 yr Longsword speed to Scimitar speed is very inaccurate there. 5:6 Ratio. Longsword hits harder and is the most consistent. Unbiased requires accuracy and not just a lack of "OMFG SCIMMY P00NZZZ!!!" +1 the longsword is also more accurate, and hits slightly harder. i used a longsword my whole career, and the only reason i ever use a skimmy is if the target has little to no defence, then only is it better. ps. unbiased my arse
December 16, 200817 yr Longsword speed to Scimitar speed is very inaccurate there. 5:6 Ratio. Longsword hits harder and is the most consistent. Unbiased requires accuracy and not just a lack of "OMFG SCIMMY P00NZZZ!!!" +1 the longsword is also more accurate, and hits slightly harder. Accuracy means consistency, I had put that in already :) I think I should pwn this and make a real unbiased comparison thread including the missed weapons like halberd, spear, claws, shortsword, etc. OH S***! He/she/it is back!
December 16, 200817 yr Dragon Longsword is the weapon of choice at Mith Drags. ;) Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie.
December 16, 200817 yr Longsword speed to Scimitar speed is very inaccurate there. 5:6 Ratio. Longsword hits harder and is the most consistent. Unbiased requires accuracy and not just a lack of "OMFG SCIMMY P00NZZZ!!!" +1 the longsword is also more accurate, and hits slightly harder. i used a longsword my whole career, and the only reason i ever use a skimmy is if the target has little to no defence, then only is it better. ps. unbiased my arse Hehe, I went to Roaches with my F2P friend with a Rune Longsword thinking "Hey, it might be pretty good from what I've heard!". I was dead wrong, my lvl 84 F2P friend with Rune Scimitar was getting the kills... I just ended up using the Rune Scimitar I got as a drop from there instead.
December 16, 200817 yr Dragon Longsword is the weapon of choice at Mith Drags. ;) Metal Dragons < Leaf-Bladed Sword.
December 16, 200817 yr Instead of Longsword, I think you meant Shortsword, the most useless and least used weapon in this game. I actually like the longsword more than the scimitar for aforementioned reasons. If the CORPORAL beast is this hard, imagine how hard a GENERAL or COLONEL beast would be. a corporal is not even an admirable rank in armies that use that ranking system. Yeah, it is a pking minigame, so any arguments anybody makes will probably be biased.The best way this will end :Everybody just says,"I'm not arguing with you anymore, goodbye."The worst way this will end: I don't really know, psychological warfare? Worldwide thermonuclear war? Pie eating contest?
December 16, 200817 yr Instead of Longsword, I think you meant Shortsword, the most useless and least used weapon in this game. I actually like the longsword more than the scimitar for aforementioned reasons. Yeah that i agree, shortsword is kind of pointless, only reason to use one is at v low lovels when you cant afford a longsword. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^
December 16, 200817 yr Come back when you figure out what the other half of the weapons are. The longsword is noticably slower than the scimmy, enough to be painful if you are used to scimitar speed I find. On teh other side you have the scimmy which is painfuly inacurate to the point of being a joke to someone who is used to a whip. I find the longsword is much closer to matching the whip in hits (just a little lower) than a scimitar. Also, for dragon weapons the longsword actualy has a pvm spec, that hits...damage. The longswords cleave is like a mini AGS spec, and I think there might be an accuracy bonus in there too. The scimitar's sever on the other hand, though supposed to have an accuracy bonus, actualy seems to have a 50/50 hit chance and almost always does several points under your max hit. The only surfire way to pull off a dragon scim spec is to complain to a room of at least 5 other players for 2 minutes about how [cabbage]ty the scim spec is, then do a spec where the scimitar does some amazing hit just to spite you. If you wan't to repeat the results you either have to continue saying increasingly stupid things about your weapon or find another crowd. I swear, honestly, I only ever get a good spec out of my scim if I complain about it first. Still, somehow, and I don't know how or why, the scimitar definatly has a higher damage output per unit of time than a dragon longsword in most cases. Normally by the time an opponents defence hinders teh scimitar the longsword is not having much better luck, it just tends to hit higher. The shortsword actualy has a use almost everyone misses. Its actualy a giant dagger, not a sword. It is primarily a stab weapon. Not very useful in pvp (except against dragon hide and mage armour of course) because of max dammage issues, but effective versus monsters particularly weak to stab attacks (kalphites come to mind). I think it has a more accurate stab than any other weapon except maybe a spear.
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December 16, 200817 yr Scimitar> longsword, end of discussion. It's a proven and well-documented fact. Still, somehow, and I don't know how or why, the scimitar definatly has a higher damage output per unit of time than a dragon longsword in most cases. Normally by the time an opponents defence hinders teh scimitar the longsword is not having much better luck, it just tends to hit higher. The shortsword actualy has a use almost everyone misses. Its actualy a giant dagger, not a sword. It is primarily a stab weapon. Not very useful in pvp (except against dragon hide and mage armour of course) because of max dammage issues, but effective versus monsters particularly weak to stab attacks (kalphites come to mind). I think it has a more accurate stab than any other weapon except maybe a spear. First paragraph: Scimitar is 20% faster than a longsword. It's not rocket science. Second paragraph: The`strongest shortsword in the game is rune, lol. Though I suppose the leaf-bladed sword could be classified as a short sword. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
December 16, 200817 yr We don't need an unbiased comparison when comparing statistics in RS - you can't be biased in mathematics lol Bottom line: Scimitar is the best all-around metallic weapon Also, scimitars are the same speed as daggers. Test it out yourself by fighting someone with a dagger and your damage will appear simultaneously. For further proof... http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... le_id=2010 Also, it really doesn't matter about how certain weapons prioritize crush att and such rather than slash... the defence bonus differences between a chain and a plate are negligible so choosing a weapon based on its attack setting is pointless
December 16, 200817 yr Longsword=Probably the worst type. Their damage is on-par with the dagger, 3:5 hit ratio to Scimitar. Nothing good about them. Have you even used a longsword before? Ever? Ever even look at the stats? A longsword hits considerably harder and more accurately than a scimitar, though the scimitar is still the superior weapon. And the speed ratio is 5:6. Also, it really doesn't matter about how certain weapons prioritize crush att and such rather than slash... the defence bonus differences between a chain and a plate are negligible so choosing a weapon based on its attack setting is pointless Most NPCs don't wear platebodies. ;) A leaf-bladed sword with its 50 strength bonus will kill mithril dragons faster than a whip, which shows how important attack style is. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
December 16, 200817 yr Instead of Longsword, I think you meant Shortsword, the most useless and least used weapon in this game. Oh we'll see when Dragon Sword comes out with a special that makes people laugh in the face of DDS and D claws.
December 16, 200817 yr Instead of Longsword, I think you meant Shortsword, the most useless and least used weapon in this game. Oh we'll see when Dragon Sword comes out with a special that makes people laugh in the face of DDS and D claws.When you put it that way: Today we have finally released the illustrious Dragon Kite. Requiring only a mere four fractured pieces acquired from the level 532 Berserk Champion and a level 80 smithing level, we believe you'll be quite pleased with it's slightly superior stats and, as such, have placed the price at 15 mil. On another note, today we've also released the dragon shortsword. It's special, Draw and Quarter, deals eight blows in quick succession with greater accuracy and damage as well as giving an extremely slim chance for an "insta-kill." We have priced it, according to its stats and abilities, at fifty thousand gold pieces. Good hunting! If the CORPORAL beast is this hard, imagine how hard a GENERAL or COLONEL beast would be. a corporal is not even an admirable rank in armies that use that ranking system. Yeah, it is a pking minigame, so any arguments anybody makes will probably be biased.The best way this will end :Everybody just says,"I'm not arguing with you anymore, goodbye."The worst way this will end: I don't really know, psychological warfare? Worldwide thermonuclear war? Pie eating contest?
December 16, 200817 yr We don't need an unbiased comparison when comparing statistics in RS - you can't be biased in mathematics lol Bottom line: Scimitar is the best all-around metallic weapon Also, scimitars are the same speed as daggers. Test it out yourself by fighting someone with a dagger and your damage will appear simultaneously. For further proof... http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... le_id=2010 Also, it really doesn't matter about how certain weapons prioritize crush att and such rather than slash... the defence bonus differences between a chain and a plate are negligible so choosing a weapon based on its attack setting is pointless That link also says that whips are the same speed as daggers LOL
December 16, 200817 yr We don't need an unbiased comparison when comparing statistics in RS - you can't be biased in mathematics lol Bottom line: Scimitar is the best all-around metallic weapon Also, scimitars are the same speed as daggers. Test it out yourself by fighting someone with a dagger and your damage will appear simultaneously. For further proof... http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... le_id=2010 Also, it really doesn't matter about how certain weapons prioritize crush att and such rather than slash... the defence bonus differences between a chain and a plate are negligible so choosing a weapon based on its attack setting is pointless That link also says that whips are the same speed as daggers LOL Maybe because Whips are the same speed as daggers?
December 16, 200817 yr We don't need an unbiased comparison when comparing statistics in RS - you can't be biased in mathematics lol Bottom line: Scimitar is the best all-around metallic weapon Also, scimitars are the same speed as daggers. Test it out yourself by fighting someone with a dagger and your damage will appear simultaneously. For further proof... http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... le_id=2010 Also, it really doesn't matter about how certain weapons prioritize crush att and such rather than slash... the defence bonus differences between a chain and a plate are negligible so choosing a weapon based on its attack setting is pointless That link also says that whips are the same speed as daggers LOL Maybe because Whips are the same speed as daggers? They are?? Haha sorry didn't know that - i'm still a supernoob
December 16, 200817 yr Just as clarification, in Runescape, weapon's have an attack speed on a scale of 1 to 10, although I believe the maximum for any player weapon is 7. 7 - Stealing Creation's SC Dagger, Darts, Knives 6 - Scimitar, Dagger, Sword, Claws, Shortbow, Abyssal Whip, Zamorakian Spear, Saradomin Sword 5 - Longsword, Mace, Spear, Crystal Bow 4 - Battleaxe, Warhammer, Crossbow, Godsword 3 - Halberd, 2H Sword, Granite Maul "Rapid" on ranged weapons raises the speed, approximately by one rank. So yes, Dagger, Whip, and Scimitar are all the same speed, unless you are referring to the dagger that you use in Stealing Creation. Want to learn to Nex? The Nex Hunters are recruiting! Click for more information!
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