Fighter Torso Discussion/Argument Thread

[Death123141]

The difference between plates defence and torsos isn't that much. And the Barrows pure part was obviously an aside, the point I'm making is torso has its uses, particularly for low/mid level rune pures.

 

http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?i ... it=Compare

 

Rune plate is overall better and is cheaper.

[Deathmath]

The only reason? It's simply not worth it. Just stick with Barrows.

 

 

 

If you care so much for fast xp that the str will give you, don't. The time wasted getting the torso will not even come close to the amount of time saved from combat, let alone the time spent banking for extra food. Plus, Fighter torso is just plain sucky... look at the defense.

 

 

 

Most people argue that it's free but... It's NOT free. If you call 6 hours worth of time free, then you're mistaken. BADly.

 

 

 

There is almost no reason to use it. Trust. Me.

 

 

 

Got it, but i still think it worths.

 

I use my torso on slayer, random training, pvp stuff and i think its great (maybe cause i got DFS)...

 

 

 

Anyways if you think worths to spend 6 hrs on it..get.

 

Or if you not willing to spend 6 hrs on it...dont get.

 

 

 

There is an old thread in which is was mathematically proven that an Addy Chain > Fighter torso.

[Mixedeath]

First of all, that's this thread. Secondly, compfreaks calculations were based on efficiency in training, while I am talking about pking. His argument was that in the time it takes to get a torso, you could have gained a ton of exp using a simple addy chain. But thats PvM in PvP the defense bonus of the torso vs rune plate is negligible, it gives 1 less slash defense, which is most warriors attack with, and 4 more strength bonus? Thats completely worth it, imo, and in almost every other zerker pures opinion. just look up zerker pure on youtube, almost every one is wearing torso + rune defender+ barrows gloves, these things are what bring our strength almost to the 1 defence pure range. But whatever, the pro-pkers on tip don't think so.

 

 

 

EDIT: it has better slash defence than rune plate. Its obviously superior to Rune Plate in PVP.

[JoeDaStudd]

I'd much rather spend 6 hours getting a 10% all round boost from void then a small 4+ strength bonus.

 

 

 

If you want a top with strength bonus just kill green dragons and farm for money then buy bandos.

 

Might cost 4x's as long (less the higher level), but you get exp whilst doing it and its got far better stats.

[gremmy]

Worth it. Best strength bonus (non-degradeable), decent defense bonusses and looks damn hot.

[Seraphi]

I assume somebody has posted compfreaks epic calculations by now.

 

Torso is a waste of time and space, don't bother with it.

 

Its barely even worth it for PKing purposes.

 

Surely 50-60 more on all defense is better than an extra four strength?

 

Also, that 4 strength will take at least 4 hours to obtain on average.

 

Using Torags instead, you sacrifice 4 strength for a lot more defense, and you can easily make enough to afford at least 2 torag plates per hour, not that you would ever need to.

 

 

 

So, four hours for +4 strength, or 20 minutes for an extra 50-60 or so defense

 

 

 

Simply put, Fighter Torso is the biggest waste of time ever to have deceived the community of Runescape.

 

 

 

Compfreaks thread.

 

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=778280&hilit=Torso

[Inuashakent]

First of all, that's this thread. Secondly, compfreaks calculations were based on efficiency in training, while I am talking about pking. His argument was that in the time it takes to get a torso, you could have gained a ton of exp using a simple addy chain. But thats PvM in PvP the defense bonus of the torso vs rune plate is negligible, it gives 1 less slash defense, which is most warriors attack with, and 4 more strength bonus? Thats completely worth it, imo, and in almost every other zerker pures opinion. just look up zerker pure on youtube, almost every one is wearing torso + rune defender+ barrows gloves, these things are what bring our strength almost to the 1 defence pure range. But whatever, the pro-pkers on tip don't think so.

 

 

 

EDIT: it has better slash defence than rune plate. Its obviously superior to Rune Plate in PVP.

 

So you're saying that time isn't a factor when it comes to PvP? That's pretty ignorant.

[TomcatLX]

Fighter Torsos are either:

 

 

 

The poor man's training armor.

 

or

 

The low level str pure's choice of armor.

 

 

 

Even then, Void melee owns both categories except for the fact that Fighter Torsos are easier to replace.

 

 

 

The defensive stats are the same as addy. However, most pvpers use slash weapons so you can compare the body to rune if only comparing slash defense bonus.

 

 

 

It is honestly better to get a Granite plate if your a low level or barrows if your a high level. Bandos chest plater would work if you have lots of money but I'd still stick to barrows.

[Mixedeath]

God, people fail. I'm asking if for a 45 defence zerker pure torso is worth it. Considering that it has +5 slash defence compared to rune plate and +4 strength bonus. The answer is obvious...

 

And to the person that says time doesn't matter in pking..the fact is it doesn't. It doesnt matter how much or how little time/money you put into your gear if the other person koes you. lmao, using your argument it wouldn't make sense to train say a obby mauler pure because they take so much more time than a dscim pure.

[Lets_3ekout]

God, people fail. I'm asking if for a 45 defence zerker pure torso is worth it. Considering that it has +5 slash defence compared to rune plate and +4 strength bonus. The answer is obvious...

 

And to the person that says time doesn't matter in pking..the fact is it doesn't. It doesnt matter how much or how little time/money you put into your gear if the other person koes you. lmao, using your argument it wouldn't make sense to train say a obby mauler pure because they take so much more time than a dscim pure.

 

Your missing the point, if you lose your torso it's gone. You must spend an INSANE amount of time for it again. If any obby mauler dies they can re-buy their equip and get right back into whatever they want to do - they don't have to re-train their stats.

 

 

 

I got a torso a few weeks after BA came out, I'm pretty sure BCP didn't exist back then so it was somewhat worthwhile if you wanted to see your max (which I did, of course). Now there are so many replacements it just isn't worth bothering. My torso has been dormant in my bank for months - it just isn't worth using. I can't be bothered with a BCP but there's nothing I can't do better with a torso that I can do than with a barrows top. If you want to be cheap and max, go for it, but maxing only stays fun for so long before you want to try out your max where it counts - real pvp and pvm. In both of those, torso just sucks.

[oropher]

If you want one, it's worth it. If you don't want one, it's not.

[Championfurydelta123]

Worth it ? / Not worth it ?

 

 

 

How long will it take !

 

 

 

Also looking for a good Barbarian Assault team !

 

Maybe Some other player looking to get a torso PM me and we'll figure something out

 

 

 

Worth it if you have high defense. The defensive stats are equal to a rune plate (or is it addy?). There is a +5 strength bonus for it.

 

 

 

It will take about 6 hours.

 

 

 

It is a +4 strength bonus...

[Inuashakent]

God, people fail. I'm asking if for a 45 defence zerker pure torso is worth it. Considering that it has +5 slash defence compared to rune plate and +4 strength bonus. The answer is obvious...

 

And to the person that says time doesn't matter in pking..the fact is it doesn't. It doesnt matter how much or how little time/money you put into your gear if the other person koes you. lmao, using your argument it wouldn't make sense to train say a obby mauler pure because they take so much more time than a dscim pure.

 

Sure, everything in Runescape revolves around winning a single fight.

 

 

 

This is why Runescape has such a bad rep... people lack common sense. Refer to what Philip_kolar said, he said exactly what I was about to.

[yuyu13]

God, people fail. I'm asking if for a 45 defence zerker pure torso is worth it. Considering that it has +5 slash defence compared to rune plate and +4 strength bonus. The answer is obvious...

 

And to the person that says time doesn't matter in pking..the fact is it doesn't. It doesnt matter how much or how little time/money you put into your gear if the other person koes you. lmao, using your argument it wouldn't make sense to train say a obby mauler pure because they take so much more time than a dscim pure.

 

Sure, everything in Runescape revolves around winning a single fight.

 

 

 

This is why Runescape has such a bad rep... people lack common sense. Refer to what Philip_kolar said, he said exactly what I was about to.

 

I know exactly wht u mean. I say torso sucks, they say no. I say addy chain is more efficient and show em the math, they say fight me. >.> like, seriously?

[thesearcher]

The arguments against the fighter torso are compelling, and based on them I've decided that I won't be replacing the torso I lost today. Perhaps my lagging out was an omen?

[yuyu13]

The arguments against the fighter torso are compelling, and based on them I've decided that I won't be replacing the torso I lost today. Perhaps my lagging out was an omen?

 

This thread never seems to die. Anyways, it really isn't worth getting, and if you have it, it really isnt worth using.

[Zaaps1]

I have one from a few years ago. I have to say while at some places it's a good thing to have (like a dusties or fire giants), it is not worth the time it took to get.

 

 

 

It's also fairly lightweight, and therefore good for runecrafting, although V armor 3 and Larupia are far better for that.