Total levels overrated?

[meili]

green9090 wrote:

 

The best way would be to do a lot of math to determine how much exp is worth in each skill compared to the others. Cooking and fletching exp would be worth very very little, whereas agility and slayer exp would be worth many times more. Then you multiply a person's exp in each skill by these multipliers and add it all up, and you get their relative competence.

 

 

 

Since that would be insane and time consuming, we use total level.

 

 

 

Oh bah, if we are going to count the worth of skills based on difficulty, I would need like 10x more respect since I got my 99s in RSC. RSC exp is 10x slower, you know. :P :roll:

[Wisdom]

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[Resonae]

Total levels are ftw. Whenever my member friends compare skills all I say is "Total w/out mem skills?"

 

 

 

Yeah. Total level is a better judge of how patient you are, because it involves skills like prayer and runecraft. Anyone can get 99 in their favourite 15 skills but getting skills you hate up shows some nice commitment and should be commended... which they are.

 

 

 

So they're neither overrated nor underrated.

 

 

 

Sorry if that didn't make sense I havvent slept in 2 days.

[Tim]

Imo, its not. Some clans (yes im pointing fingers) have some stupid requirements for the "Elitism" and popularity, rather then the fact of enjoying the game. not everyone has 100m to use for all skills 80+ or 90+ even, if you enjoy a skill, you get a 99 or just enjoy the game, go for it. screw the requirements, thats just what they want to make their level of disapline look good, and same applys to those who think if you have a low total your a noob/newb/neeb/loser etc.

[The Runar]

I'd say total lvl is a show of the fact you can do a variety of skills rather than just one 'set' or so....

 

 

 

:thumbup:

 

 

 

I think that a good player is balanced. I hate noobs who get a skillcape just to show off "LOK IM TEH BEST PLAYERO F RUNE SCAPE I HAVE A SKILL CAPE!" style. Myself I wear my Legends' Cape and I'm proud of it. Most players who train just to get a skillcape don't have it, because to get it you need balanced stats. I train skills depending on my mood, and everyone should do that in my opinion.

[xSxqPowerx]

Best way of measuring overall progress we have, however yes sometimes it fails to reflect total experience properly.

 

 

 

For example, my total experience is extremely higher, and I am always in the top 3 or so for highest experience out of everyone with the same total as me.

[deyan2]

Yes they are.

 

 

 

I have more respect for el_popo1 for example then for the avarage 1800+ RS player.

[psvstef]

Well, here's a formula for rating someone accurately (note that I think rating people purely for their skills is rather dumb, but that's just more accurete):

 

 

 

Total exp/total level= rate.

 

 

 

With your formula, someone with 200M cooking experience and 200 skill total is rated higher than soemone with 2200 skill total and 200M total xp.

 

 

 

Again, total lvl isnt overrated at all, 99s are.

 

 

 

 

 

i agree,i only have usefull 99s,yes except 99 fletch,that was to trim my defence cape :lol:

[Kimberly]

Someone can get 2000 total level with only 83 or 84 in every skill which isnt hard at all yet people think 2000 is a high total

 

 

 

That's pretty high, man. Just because it's easy for you, doesn't mean it's easy for others.

 

 

 

I'd say that your total level is a better indication of your in-game "dedication" as it were than your combat level.

[mega_vegeta6]

Its true that total experience is a much better judge of actual time invested. I agree that total level is slightly overrated. Slightly.

 

I have 32M exp. My friend has 45M exp. Guess who's played 4 years, and the other not nearly 1,5 years. I can say, that i have more than double the playtime she has without doubt.

[Romy]

Its true that total experience is a much better judge of actual time invested. I agree that total level is slightly overrated. Slightly.

 

I have 32M exp. My friend has 45M exp. Guess who's played 4 years, and the other not nearly 1,5 years. I can say, that i have more than double the playtime she has without doubt.

 

Well, obviously you didn't put your enite play time to effectivly train your skills, whether it was mini-games, quests, or just hanging with friends, it is fairly possible that your friend put more time into effectivly training her skills than you did...

[Shelby_Polo]

I don't think total levels are over rated. I for one, am very proud of my total level.

 

I would say my total level is definitely higher than most people I've talked who are my combat level.

 

 

 

All in all, I think 2000+ total can still be high.

[mega_vegeta6]

Its true that total experience is a much better judge of actual time invested. I agree that total level is slightly overrated. Slightly.

 

I have 32M exp. My friend has 45M exp. Guess who's played 4 years, and the other not nearly 1,5 years. I can say, that i have more than double the playtime she has without doubt.

 

Well, obviously you didn't put your enite play time to effectivly train your skills, whether it was mini-games, quests, or just hanging with friends, it is fairly possible that your friend put more time into effectivly training her skills than you did...

 

Yes, it's obvious, but. My post was to prove that experience points are not a measure of playtime put in that account. instead i think jagex should show total playtime at your account info page.

[D Jay99]

For example, my total experience is extremely higher, and I am always in the top 3 or so for highest experience out of everyone with the same total as me.

Same, except I always have the lowest experience. :P

 

 

 

I think at least 70+ is a 'requirement' for high level players, if you can be bothered to spend loads of time to max combat why not spend a little bit more time and just unlock a lot more stuff?

 

 

 

I don't think it's overrated, combat levels are.

[obfuscator]

I don't think so. All 80 stats are fairly difficult to obtain. I also look at total xp when looking at total level.

[Poopingman]

Its true that total experience is a much better judge of actual time invested. I agree that total level is slightly overrated. Slightly.

 

 

 

Not quite true. There is a huge difference between 10m cooking xp and 10m runecrafting xp. It's really a mix between total xp and total level.

 

 

 

Rating anyone on any system in this game is over rated.

 

 

Most true answer. [/thread]

 

I understand. There is some disparity. But its still a more clear-cut method than relying on total skill level.

[drgnslyer_15]

I wouldn't say it's overrated. I know a lot of people like to play thier game and i like to play mine. Before summoning came out i was 116 with over 2k total which was a lot better than most people that were higher cbt than me. It all goes with what you want to do with the game. Personally i like total level. Having highish skills allows me to be more independant in the game.

[Romy]

Its true that total experience is a much better judge of actual time invested. I agree that total level is slightly overrated. Slightly.

 

I have 32M exp. My friend has 45M exp. Guess who's played 4 years, and the other not nearly 1,5 years. I can say, that i have more than double the playtime she has without doubt.

 

Well, obviously you didn't put your enite play time to effectivly train your skills, whether it was mini-games, quests, or just hanging with friends, it is fairly possible that your friend put more time into effectivly training her skills than you did...

 

Yes, it's obvious, but. My post was to prove that experience points are not a measure of playtime put in that account. instead i think jagex should show total playtime at your account info page.

 

No, I meant it's the total play time PUT INTO SKILLING!!!

[Romy]

Double post :oops: . I didn't know it was still possible, silly lags...

[Toad]

the player with 13 99s would pretty much top the xp in that rank of the highscores, and if he/she did decide to get other skills up, they'd fly up past the other person in no time, so no.

[mega_vegeta6]

Its true that total experience is a much better judge of actual time invested. I agree that total level is slightly overrated. Slightly.

 

I have 32M exp. My friend has 45M exp. Guess who's played 4 years, and the other not nearly 1,5 years. I can say, that i have more than double the playtime she has without doubt.

 

Well, obviously you didn't put your enite play time to effectivly train your skills, whether it was mini-games, quests, or just hanging with friends, it is fairly possible that your friend put more time into effectivly training her skills than you did...

 

Yes, it's obvious, but. My post was to prove that experience points are not a measure of playtime put in that account. instead i think jagex should show total playtime at your account info page.

 

No, I meant it's the total play time PUT INTO SKILLING!!!

 

 

Yes, it's obvious, but. My post was to prove that experience points are not a measure of playtime put in that account. instead i think jagex should show total playtime at your account info page.

 

 

 

#-o Yes, i knew that, and still, i have put more hours in to skilling that she has anyway. Efficiently or not, i play for the fun.

[green9090]

yes, and no it truly detrmines the value of a skill.....fletvhig is overated now because msb are like not used and common from clues... but back when fleching was more widly needed and msb were the true ranger weapon it was a valued skill.....

 

 

 

and in classic cooking was prised uo near atk str minning or smithing...the fishermen were really the rich ones in them days.....but know? food is cheap economy is crap ans ppl dont get 99 cooking with fishing cause the want that coveted skill cape.....

 

 

 

rember at one time ever skill was valued highly....(smithing still hasnt really lost its covetedness tho....)

 

I'm talking about how hard it is to gain exp in a skill, not how useful the skill is. Cooking and fletching have always been easy exp (though not as easy as now, with the do-X functions), and in the past they even MADE money.

[jords]

Well I suppose my few is kind of an obvious one, if we look at my stats we'll be able to see that I am 93 combat at 1919 total level, so I'm going to total levels are not overrated however I can see how others may think they are. I also see how many people who do think they are overrated are lets be honest low on total level. I find a mix between total exp and total level and/or combat the best way of measuring a player. I personally don't agree with a maxed out combat player with 800 total to be that good compared to a player who has 70 in every single skill. Would seem to me that the combat person may not really enjoy the game that much and should perhaps play a game that is all combat e.g. Everquest 2.

[AdamMonkey0]

I have several thoughts on this

 

 

 

I'd answer yes to this if the person rating the other person didn't take into concideration about what the rated player likes to do and their path chosen.

 

 

 

I'd answer no, if the rater does take the things into consideration.

 

 

 

I think that if you look at the likings of the person, then you could see a bit more on how they are doing. (hard to explain (imo))

 

 

 

Example Ranking System

 

Type of Player: Rate Out of

 

F2P Skillers: 799

 

F2Pers and P2P Skillers (w/o slayer): 1494

 

P2P Skillers (w/ slayer): 1592

 

 

 

If people rated by the above, depending on the type of player, then it would help lower the overratedness.

 

 

 

Also, XP as people mentioned before is less overrated. However, it would be fairer to neglect the XP gained beyond a 99. Something on that scale when doing that math. ;)

[snewham]

I think combat level is more overrated then total level.

 

 

 

When my brother asks me what my level is, I say I have over 2050 total level.

 

He then says "Yeah thats all fine, but whats your combat level?"

 

 

 

A 138 could have a really low total level, but still get more 'fame' then a 110 with 13 99's.

 

 

 

 

 

Good point, Jagex puts too much emphasis on combat levels within the game, where in fact it's pretty easy to get over 120 combat nowadays with all of the recent updates to the game.

 

 

 

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I think it would be nice to have an option where you could select in your settings whether to display peoples total levels or combat levels.

 

 

 

What do you think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scott