New 26k pvp method

[walka92]

there is NOTHING wrong with the 26king, let alone the ways of building dp which all pkers do, 26kers or not.

 

 

 

and can someone PLEASE tell me why 26k trick is so "evil" and is something "wrong with the game?"

 

Okay. I'll sum it up like this.

 

 

 

Why the hell should you get a better drop, using the weakest of equipment in a controlled setting, than someone who's using an AGS and full Bandos, in a place where PJing could occur at literally any moment?

 

the people who fight in ags and full bandos can get just as good of drops as the 25kers, not get BETTER drop. infact the real pkers are more likely to get better drops because the people they kill are more likely to drop rune, barrows, whips etc, because of the chance of getting an opponents item, when the killed in the 26k trick, give no such chance. also, more gp lost on death gives a higher chance of a good drop to the killer.

 

 

 

hence, the "real" pkers do get better drops, and the 26kers are in no way doing bug abuse or any such thing either

 

 

 

also for the using weakeast of equipment bla bla bla... what the hell does that mean? the people building potential with weak weapons? NEWSFLASH GENIUS, the normal pkers do that aswell, because everyone needs to get potential

[Italian5kamikaze]

Pvp worlds look like they're starting to fail, we need a new pvping system and I doubt bh will be any better.

[Ravenkana]

there is NOTHING wrong with the 26king, let alone the ways of building dp which all pkers do, 26kers or not.

 

 

 

and can someone PLEASE tell me why 26k trick is so "evil" and is something "wrong with the game?"

 

Okay. I'll sum it up like this.

 

 

 

Why the hell should you get a better drop, using the weakest of equipment in a controlled setting, than someone who's using an AGS and full Bandos, in a place where PJing could occur at literally any moment?

They shouldn't. But because 75k is the limit for increasing drop potential, they don't. That expensive equipment really doesn't help drop potential because someone in rune plate, rune legs, and with a DDS can get the same drop potential by risking only two items.

[999134]

I don't even know why people still waste their time with this dumb pvp trick. I mean even if by some chance you do get a dfs or dfh, in the time it took to get one you could have made 10x that somewhere else, like armadyl. Stop wasting your time and go boss hunt like every normal person trying to make money.

 

you fail sorry. I can easily make 1mil an hour drop fixing. Thats with badish drops (maybe a zerker ring + rune/dragon stuff) 1 hour in goutweed room then less than one hour getting the kills = easy cash.

[The_dmt1234]

Pff not like there's much pvp left... All I see are void nerds and their dark bows ruining good fights, or some random nerd who could buy claws. And all they do is camp at the edges, turn prayer on run in spec, pjing the other and making them lose like 100ks of decent gear for real pvp. Mostly it's like this, like 20 people fighting, 100 are ready to pj and all the rest is windstriking and some others are fighting with teams in the wild.

 

 

 

yes double that, i can't fight fairly, i'm level 100 vs level say 97-103

 

then some dumb level 110-116 tried g maul, dds, d claw or some random dragon arrows come hit me so anyoen can do what they want as far as i see it

[Blutters]

Just about the entirety of the replies on this thread are SPAM.

 

Moosecow wasn't asking about what anyone thinks about the legality or morality of "tricking drops" or "tricking potential".

 

If all (obviously referring to people mentioned above) of you want to argue about it, make your own thread.

 

 

 

Now, actually addressing the topic...

 

I wouldn't put too much faith into weak Ranged weapons either. Despite what lots of whiners love to repeat over and over, JaGEx isn't stupid.

 

They've already taken away fun weapons (melee) and strike spells (Magic) so why is it that you don't seem to believe that they wouldn't do a preemptive strike on Ranged or Bronze equipment without telling everybody (that is, if they are so obviously against this as some are saying)?

 

I'd go so far as to say they've already undone Bronze-Black melee & Ranged and Chaos tier spells. And if they didn't, then they don't care that much.

 

Simple as that...

 

 

 

... Which means that finding a new effective method for whatever you like to call this practice is going to be more complicated than getting drunk off your [wagon]...

[gda_scooby]

The people who are complaining about being jumped - isnt this how the old wildy was? anyone could attack anyone at any time?

 

 

 

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[n00bfiterpk6]

I used to afk windstrike for like 6 hours at a time, but used all my potential on actual pking.

 

 

 

i just thought of a way to sort of nerf trick, or atleast make it less rewarding.. make it that the person you are killing must risk 75k.. as why would anyone bring less then 75k into a pvp world except for doing pvp trick? there is no point.. If you had to risk 75k alot of the drops wouldnt pay off and people may stop doing trick as much. Tbh jagex are going to nerf pvp sooner or later, so may as well enjoy it while you can.

 

 

 

Also shouldnt this be in help and advice?

[SlayerMalk]

not really it was more for people to give their input in rather then asking for help or advice. its not drop fixing you dont affect what you get you just get dp in a more safe manner yes thats legal to all the people who actually pk. and besides a lot of people find when you actually kill someone with real pking with little dp you get trash drops almost always. its just a way to get dp

[bedman]

I dont get Jagex. They obviously dont want players to do "the pvp trick", yet they refuse to think of a general solution. Banning air strikes. Wow, brilliant plan, players will just find something else?

 

 

 

You don't cure a disease by removing some symptoms.

 

 

 

Now on topic: Why is everyone suggesting bronze weaopns and stuff? Why any weapon at all, just fist them. Or isnt that allowed either?

[n00bfiterpk6]

just fist them.

 

:shock:

[wakka102]

Personally I put the blame for the PVP abuse on Jagex, not on the players. Jagex should have known that when they released all of that information about the drop system that players would abuse it. As soon as you release information about how a system works you can always find ways to improve your odds at something if you know how it works. If Jagex had just kept it to themselves I think PVP would be far more genuine "PVP" and a small group who come up with myths about how the PVP system works.

[bedman]

just fist them.

 

:shock:

 

I know I would get this :-)

 

 

 

Fist fight them

 

 

 

better?

[kudos6969]

its a way of earning money for noobs.

 

You can earn a far lot more in the time i takes to do this i tried it a couple of times to see what its like and got drops from 40k-200k never a 1 mill +drop and thats for 30mins work on a pvp world, i can easily earn more than that in 30mins of doing a variety of other activities.

 

 

 

Killing someone on a world for 10 hours and finnaly getting that dragon chain worth 5m when i could easily spend 10 hours at gwd and earn 5-150m really sows how bad and silly it is wasting your life killing people on a pvp world.

 

 

 

I think the method is fine and anyone should be able to do it, there was no need for a change because there is far more ways to earn money.

 

 

 

Its also not really exploiting that much when you consider what it would be like if the worlds were like the old pkin system when you get all the drops and can RWT as you please.

 

 

 

You could also say that rushing with dragon claws praying melee and carrying teleport runes is exploiting so go figure.

 

 

 

Have fun.

[Lemeja]

This is exactly why pking was removed in the first place...Jagex obviously doesn't want people doing this so it needs to stop or they'll have to do something drastic (again). You're bringing it on yourselves by doing this :|

[chris1216]

its a way of earning money for noobs.

 

You can earn a far lot more in the time i takes to do this i tried it a couple of times to see what its like and got drops from 40k-200k never a 1 mill +drop and thats for 30mins work on a pvp world, i can easily earn more than that in 30mins of doing a variety of other activities.

 

 

 

Killing someone on a world for 10 hours and finnaly getting that dragon chain worth 5m when i could easily spend 10 hours at gwd and earn 5-150m really sows how bad and silly it is wasting your life killing people on a pvp world.

 

 

 

I think the method is fine and anyone should be able to do it, there was no need for a change because there is far more ways to earn money.

 

 

 

Its also not really exploiting that much when you consider what it would be like if the worlds were like the old pkin system when you get all the drops and can RWT as you please.

 

 

 

You could also say that rushing with dragon claws praying melee and carrying teleport runes is exploiting so go figure.

 

 

 

Have fun.

 

 

 

The reason you're wrong and dumb is that most windstrikers did it while afk (doing homework, doing something else, sleeping).

 

 

 

Can you make that 5-150m while sleeping? Thought not.

[Peronix]

Hmm, perhaps then Jagex should make it to where drop potential increases by how much your opponent looses instead of time spent in an area? Yeah that seems like it's kind of an obvious solution, but hey, they're... Jagex. :roll:

[siim]

Oh Oh! I got another!

 

 

 

Bronze arrows on rune/granite/dragon or any other armour that doesn't degrade.

 

 

 

Bronze arrows with normal shortbow on longrange

 

I guess you DID read my post in the update topic? :roll:

[Ned]

Shouldn't Jagex just restrict potential gained when in combat for extended periods of time with the same person? That doesn't seem hard, if they can be as specific as this update.

 

 

 

That would prevent a lot more...

 

 

 

Sorry if that was already suggested :P

[totalpwnage]

26k takes skillz

 

I lol'ed so hard.

 

 

 

As a 26k'er myself, I personally only do it when I can't be bothered to do PvP for a long period of time, or can't get any kills. I've actually resorted to rushing just because of the fact that everyone just dh's or gets lucky as hell specs or runs to bank on 5 food -- its too damn boring now.

 

 

 

I can personally say that I make a ton of money doing 26k'ing, but I do SKILLS, not windstriking or any of that unless I'm using mage brawlers -- and for that, I HAVE to be at the computer, casting stun over and over and using charge every so often. Though I've resorted to high alch.

 

 

 

I believe that they are going to make it so that this happens.

 

1. If you are brewed to under half your stats, you will not gain DP.

 

2. If you are in a fight with one person for more than 10 minutes, you will not gain DP while fighting him for another hour.

 

 

 

#2 would probably work best. Fights do NOT last 10 minutes or more where they are trying to kill the other person unless they've done like 3 fights and one of them has run to bank every time. And that would probably be an easy work aroudn if they are able to implement the first part.

 

 

 

Anyways, they kinda had to reveal how the pvp system worked, otherwise everyone would quit the game again complaining about the drops. They wouldn't know how much they had to risk to at least get something. People would have tons of misconceptions. With jagex's clarification, people can actually get drops at lower levels (otherwise none of the pures would risk 75k)

 

 

 

It shouldn't be allowed to be able to build DP without risking anything at all. PvP is SUPPOSED to be dangerous.

[TheWilch]

ok....

 

 

 

so aside from the argument about if its pvp'ing or not.

 

 

 

what about bronze daggers+full rune. i like the idea of bronze arrows.

[ValaraZ]

 

I don't get what's wrong with just normal PKing you know... like... what the PvP worlds are actually there for? Just... throwing that insane idea out there...

 

 

 

That was an awesome post. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

Go skill in PvP or go PK there, don't freeload.

[mervinator_9]

God i hate to say it but the old pvp system was so much simpler, Why couldn't we just have random drops in the wildy?

 

 

 

Hmm, perhaps then Jagex should make it to where drop potential increases by how much your opponent looses instead of time spent in an area? Yeah that seems like it's kind of an obvious solution, but hey, they're... Jagex. :roll:

That seems logical too, almost to logical.

 

 

 

And as for my personal two cents on the whole is 26king thing against the rules or moral?

 

Well no for both, it obviously not how the pvp aspects of the game were designed to be played so why its okay to do it doesnt make sense.

 

 

 

As for people saying "If its wrong, why dont they ban it?" Well if Y'all can try an' put ya thinkin caps on and recall the last time Jagex took major action to stop people using a pvp system to cheat you may just recall player reaction was less than positive so my guess would be Jagex are on their tippy toes about not doing something drastic to its replacement.

[niperwiper]

By now it should be totally clear to you all that Jagex doesn't want you doing this, so why must you continue to exploit their efforts when PvP worlds were meant to appease your whining in the first place? God you people sicken me.

[Skull]

Once Jagex makes worlds with pking only in the wilderness (but same method as pvp worlds) I'm guessing at least a few people will go back to normal pking. There will probably always be 26kers though, some people like easy money and I don't blame them.

 

 

 

*Worlds with only wilderness pking is only an assumption for now, they're not confirmed*