Zierro Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Do you think your vote makes a difference or not? I don't think mine does, unless the votes are tied which is extremely rare so I wouldn't count that. Look at how many people there are voting. Those are slim odds. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauke Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Votes only make an actual difference if your vote could balance the outcome from one side to the other. Usually that's not the case. Certainly not with the elections. Though, voting is good, because if everyone just dropped their vote because it wouldn't make a difference, then you don't have an accurate representation of what the people want. And that is important. Funny example though. We've had for the city council. And I decided not to vote. After the elections I heard that "my" party needed one more vote for an extra seat in the city council :D Well, that's just a small community, so that's why this could've happened. Though it was quite funny. Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_love_burritos Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 In the grand scheme of things - no. To help you get your ego trip once every 4 or 5 years, then yes. However voting as a concept is good. And is worthwhile. Freedom of expressions blah blah blah. All that cal. It's funny because on its own an individual vote doesn't mean anything, unless you want to be all pretentious and go ooh ahh, it gives me my freedoms, anyway, as I was saying. Also its only how the vote tips in favour of the elected that actually matters. I don't give a damn. Maybe I'm saying it wrong. OK. One vote is insignificant. Unless it tips the balance. What if a certain party was the equivalent of some hard right wing "thing" and yet everyone voted for them. Even though it wasn't "right". Again voting is a process determining what is good and bad, all all shades in between. However it is a raw and blatant numerical value with little to no siginificance to the value being conveyed. Socrates debated this before he died. Socrates was judged and prosecuted, and out voted to die by about 20% of the voters in the court, if I remember correctly. So yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 It counts, but obviously it only makes up a very small fraction of all the other votes that count too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Socrates was judged and prosecuted, and out voted to die by about 20% of the voters in the court, if I remember correctly. That's the problem I've always had with democracy. It only works to satisfy the majority no matter how ridiculous, not to do what's fair or what's right. It counts, but obviously it only makes up a very small fraction of all the other votes that count too. That's a very nice way of putting it, because it sounds optimistic but it's still accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 yes, although any single vote doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things, when you put everyones insignifigance together it adds up. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 statistically, no. but i still tink voting is important. I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin0001 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Even if you don't think it counts, you should still vote. If you can vote but don't then you don't have a right to complain the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusqi Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 It's a Tragedy of the Commons. If everyone took an interest in politics and voted, we'd all be better off because then politicians wouldn't be able to get away with so much and everyone would give their potentially valuable input. But for the individual it's better not to put the time in because your one vote is very unlikely to change the outcome of the election. It ends up that few people bother to vote, because most people follow their self interest. I never understood the argument that if you don't vote you can't complain. If you look at the outcome after an election and find that even if you had voted it wouldn't have changed the result, then I'd say that you're still entitled to complain. For it is the greyness of dusk that reigns.The time when the living and the dead exist as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uldric Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Voting in Australia is mandatory so yes, your vote does count, even if it is 1/20million. It doesn't matter the size of the population voting because what if it comes down to 50/50 and you did a dummy vote. Then you'd feel like a stupid idiot. Whether the size of population voting is 1 billion people or 10 people, your vote always counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perakp Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Your vote counts just as much as everyone else's, which is only fair. But for each person who doesn't use their vote, my vote becomes relatively more significant, meaning I and my fellow voters have more power compared to those who do not vote. Or atleast I have the illusion of having power. \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 In the UK general elections my vote makes no difference because I'm in one of the strongest Labour constituencies in the country (Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath - Gordon Brown's constituency), you could put any idiot in a Labour rosette here and they'd win. In the Scottish parliamentary elections we have the added PR system so that makes the vote count for me a bit more. He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastortoise Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Since my voting system was invented by some crazy canadians, my vote doesn't count. However, that's only because I vote for the Green party, essentially killing my vote at the municipal level and doesn't go on to anything higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieMcD Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 One person's vote rarely does actually matter, but when everyone starts thinking "Hey, my vote doesn't matter at all" is when it truly does start to matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5000 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Your individual vote doesn't count. Yet if everyone doesn't vote, thats where you get problems. So you are better off voting. Luck be a Lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Your individual vote doesn't count. Yet if everyone doesn't vote, thats where you get problems. So you are better off voting. Yes, that's the problem there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joes_So_Cool Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I wasn't able to vote in this election, being only 16, but I think my vote does count for things I can vote for, class president, weather to read aloud or to ourselves, etc. Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren0gade Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Vote or die! :shame: Masta Chef Drops-- Dragon: Medium(2),Spear(1),Legs(2),Skirt(1) Pharaoh's Scepter(1) Barrows items(10 total) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0rd Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Yes [iNSERT "I R EATIN TEH SHIX ATM" BILL COSBY SIGNATURE GIF HERE, LOL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Even if you don't think it counts, you should still vote. If you can vote but don't then you don't have a right to complain the country. You should always have the right to complain. That's the best way to get things done when it comes to government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Mine does. \ PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenshinjapan Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Even if you don't think it counts, you should still vote. If you can vote but don't then you don't have a right to complain the country. You should always have the right to complain. That's the best way to get things done when it comes to government. I don't think a person that didn't vote should be allowed to complain about governmental leaders, knowing that they didn't do anything to stop that person from reaching power. Oh, and voting matters. YOU! ATTEND TET EVENTS! CLICK HERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave0293 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Your individual vote doesn't count. Yet if everyone doesn't vote, thats where you get problems. So you are better off voting. I don't get this logic, or perhaps my logic is flawed. Everyone's vote counts; your vote counts. I don't get the if the vote's are tied logic. Why does you vote count, or matter morem then? It still counts the same; your vote isn't the one that will "tip the scale," all of the ones that voted for whoever counted the same. Even here, your vote is worth the same as Joe Smo, whether he was the one who voted 250th and you when the votes were tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Voting in the American electorial college is useless. Only by popular vote should democracy stand. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGoddessI Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I usually cast blank votes so I'd say mine makes a difference (however small) in not electing the wrong person over ticking random boxes :lol: The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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