Great_one Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 If I brought this key, how much Bank space would I get? [F2P] why not buy a membership instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragons_Might Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dragons Might: If the person has the other persons account and they haven' tried to get it back they probably don't care. F2 P can just give them their info. The one thing I will be pissed at Jagex for would be if they add these people to mailing lists. Otherwise, as long as people actually buy this and it turns into a useful feature for Runescape, this will be a bonus. You actually missed the exact thing I pointed out. Someone can take a password of someone else who doesn't own one of these, AND NOT TAKE THE ACCOUNT YET. If they then buy one, and THEN steal the account, then the person who it is owned by won't be able to get it. "F2P can just give them their info". Tell me, please, what is stopped someone from writing that they are "Insert acc name"'s owner, and getting one? There has to be a system or else anyone can do that... :wall: the trick is to balance all of these methods to get 99 and either play real life or train another skill while farming. 635th to 99 Farming 12/16/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbluer Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 In the first case I think they are pretty well screwed. In the second one, they could require you to type in your password on the website, as well as the code that it gives you. However, the first point would still be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSBDavid Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 If the thing changes every few seconds, what if you are a very slow typer.... My dad: 343... damn it changed 34510.. Damnit not again 3.. [bleep] it *throws at wall* OT: I support this. One thing Jagex would have to do is to watch for copycat websites who try to sell these as Jagex. [software Engineer] - [Ability Bar Suggestion] - [Gaming Enthusiast] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbluer Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I think it changes once a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myweponsg00d Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Customer satisfaction is most important to them? Wow they must think we are really satisfied when we lose 100m+ to glitches every month. Need assistance in any of these skills? PM me in game, my private chat is always ON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Customer satisfaction is most important to them? Wow they must think we are really satisfied when we lose 100m+ to glitches every month. YOU lose 100M+ EACH month? To GLITCHES? I guess you're exaggerating. OT:Nice idea. I'd probably keep mine next to my computer screen. (I only play rs at home anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaael Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Andrew seems pretty bummed about the responses :( 5,693rd to 99 Slayer on 10/08/2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettrider Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Lies: -I noticed he skated over mentioning the $20 price, which WILL make Jagex profit comfortably (if $10 can almost break even by buying in bulk, $20 definitely can) -It does not make any sense that fuller banks are richer. The richest players have only the necessities. Just admit that bank space was the only thing you could sell to keep a straight face and maintain that you don't sell in-game advantages. -Common sense > all security. Before you visit any webpage, hover your mouse and, if necessary, do a google search on it to see what the deal is. He makes it sound like a person using common sense could still get a virus. Of course, not all of us use common sense 24/7, but if we did, we would be completely safe. 2496 Completionist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Lies: -I noticed he skated over mentioning the $20 price, which WILL make Jagex profit comfortably (if $10 can almost break even by buying in bulk, $20 definitely can) -It does not make any sense that fuller banks are richer. The richest players have only the necessities. Just admit that bank space was the only thing you could sell to keep a straight face and maintain that you don't sell in-game advantages. -Common sense > all security. Before you visit any webpage, hover your mouse and, if necessary, do a google search on it to see what the deal is. He makes it sound like a person using common sense could still get a virus. Of course, not all of us use common sense 24/7, but if we did, we would be completely safe. Who told you the price would be $20? As I know I'm not the only user of my computer, it's not perfectly safe. And if people are able to hikack just about anything, than a rs account is everything but fully secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Lies: -I noticed he skated over mentioning the $20 price, which WILL make Jagex profit comfortably (if $10 can almost break even by buying in bulk, $20 definitely can) -It does not make any sense that fuller banks are richer. The richest players have only the necessities. Just admit that bank space was the only thing you could sell to keep a straight face and maintain that you don't sell in-game advantages. -Common sense > all security. Before you visit any webpage, hover your mouse and, if necessary, do a google search on it to see what the deal is. He makes it sound like a person using common sense could still get a virus. Of course, not all of us use common sense 24/7, but if we did, we would be completely safe. Jagex won't profit from this, at all. They do not mind losing money if overall the players will benefit, we have seen this. I had a chat with Mod Mmg earlier, too, who also said they will make a loss on it overall. This is for the players, not themselves. Richest players having only necessities? Heh, 26k'ers maybe. I can't say I visit sites and do a background search on them before I click, I'm sure many more would agree say that also. :| RIP Michaelangelopolous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I'm not rich, but i think most players would like some of there cash in items so they don't have to go to the GE as often for a hammer. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Finally, the big cannons come out to dismiss the FUD about this thing. It just seems that people can't take what's said at face value to mean something at face value; Jagex isn't the kind of company with an evil motive behind every question or update. For those of us familiar with this technology, rolling it out for $10 is not only a bargain, but they're taking a major hit - to be frank, I would be glad to pay $20 for such a thing. But that's neither here nor there. Now, let's get to the FUD here! I hope he scraps this whole idea which he probably will. Doesn't look like he will. If it does get scrapped, it's a shame, but that totally depends on the community, not just him. Customer satisfaction is most important to them? Wow they must think we are really satisfied when we lose 100m+ to glitches every month. How many people have lost that kind of cash to a glitch before? Besides, if the updates to curb RWT and then this don't give you the feeling that Jagex cares enough about their customer's satisfaction, then nothing will - they can't make neon lights for "obvious" in the size you'd need... [No, this isn't a flame or a troll, just telling you how I feel.] -I noticed he skated over mentioning the $20 price, which WILL make Jagex profit comfortably (if $10 can almost break even by buying in bulk, $20 definitely can) So you know how much it would cost to deploy it, right? I really, really don't think that $20 would let them make any kind of profit. -It does not make any sense that fuller banks are richer. The richest players have only the necessities. Just admit that bank space was the only thing you could sell to keep a straight face and maintain that you don't sell in-game advantages. Is it not true that if you have lots of items, you have some semblance of value? We're not talking wealth, per se, but sentimental value. Wouldn't it suck to lose something sentimental to you, that you know you couldn't get back? (E.X. Faladian Knights' Sword) -Common sense > all security. Before you visit any webpage, hover your mouse and, if necessary, do a google search on it to see what the deal is. He makes it sound like a person using common sense could still get a virus. Of course, not all of us use common sense 24/7, but if we did, we would be completely safe. I laughed out loud so hard at this. Familiarize yourself with Murphy's Law - if it can go wrong, it will. You should also know that common sense alone isn't going to save you from getting a virus. Sure, it'll prevent some of the more obvious instances, but all it takes is one wrong click. Not even common sense could save you then. Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4ngewarlord Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 i like the idea but im going to lose that thing wayyy to often. still i may get it. Gamertag: EFs Predator.Games I play: Halo 3, Halo wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masarius Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I can't say I visit sites and do a background search on them before I click, I'm sure many more would agree say that also. You could always use Norton Internet Security or McAfree Site Advisor (or both, as I do) to do the background search for you.... Norton and Mcafree are both actively scanning web pages for virus's as a preventative measure to try to stop computers from being infected in the first place. Whenever you do a google search Norton Internet Security and McAfree Site Advisor both insert icons next to the hyperlinks to tell you the security of the website; green tick for virus free, yellow for potential threats and red for sites where threats have been detected. In each case you can hover your mouse over the icon to get a break down of what the potential threats are including viruses in the page code, virus infected downloads available on site, or links to sites with known threats. Furthermore Norton Internet security will often block virus containing web pages that you accidently click on or if you typed in the URL. Just some software you might like to look into for a basic level of security... Check out my blog!www.masarius.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fools_Taco Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 i would pay 100$ to make my account more secure. You dont have to worry about other people pretending to be your account and get your key. Im sure they will only send these devices to the billing address of the credit card on the account. They could achieve the same kind of hackproof security by just moving your bank pin to when you log in. Like when you log into the game you have to enter a pin to even move or type. then if someone actually had your password, when they logged in they couldent do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf1085 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Why the need to couple security and increased bank space? Personally, I'll buy it, but only if I can later disable it and keep the extra bank space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Heh, I actually really like Andrew's response to this. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtemisCatal Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I can't say I visit sites and do a background search on them before I click, I'm sure many more would agree say that also. You could always use Norton Internet Security or McAfree Site Advisor (or both, as I do) to do the background search for you.... Norton and Mcafree are both actively scanning web pages for virus's as a preventative measure to try to stop computers from being infected in the first place. Whenever you do a google search Norton Internet Security and McAfree Site Advisor both insert icons next to the hyperlinks to tell you the security of the website; green tick for virus free, yellow for potential threats and red for sites where threats have been detected. In each case you can hover your mouse over the icon to get a break down of what the potential threats are including viruses in the page code, virus infected downloads available on site, or links to sites with known threats. Furthermore Norton Internet security will often block virus containing web pages that you accidently click on or if you typed in the URL. Just some software you might like to look into for a basic level of security... Both of which cost more than $20. edit: and if you play on a not ever so modern computer (and lots of 'scapers do), both slow your computer to a crawl... you don't have to worry about virus, etc, cause you never go anywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I honestly think that its [cabbage] that members have to pay for this. #-o The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Do I have to say it again? Because I am anyway. Sorry to dust this old reply off, but I still think you're reading too much into this and that they're trying to come up with solutions and on the whole, the concept isn't that bad.... I still don't know why everybody's so paranoid all the time and act like they're some evil organization that's out to get you when your back is turned. I couldn't play a game if I had to worry about that every minute I'm logged in. They ain't no Viacom, that's for sure. The only alternate solution I see anybody else proposing is that somehow the playerbase gets smarter. We already tried that with the stronghold of security, remember? Regardless of the fact that they actually attempted to do that, I will still partake in one good minute of literal LOLing. Seriously, if you got anything better, let's hear it. (Note: Of course members have to pay for it. It's a physical piece of hardware. Nice as they are about the situation, they're not giving out free highly valuable candy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masarius Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Both of which cost more than $20. edit: and if you play on a not ever so modern computer (and lots of 'scapers do), both slow your computer to a crawl... you don't have to worry about virus, etc, cause you never go anywhere! Sorry ArtemisCatal but that's not entirely true. Site Advisor is a firefox (and internet explorer I think?) plugin and is free to download from the McAfree website, it requires no subscription for updates and is a completely free service. Also as it is a browser plugin it should require next to no extra system resources to run. I cannot comment on it slowing down dialup connections as I haven't used dialup in years, but I suspect it would have a minimal impact. Yes Norton does cost, which is why I also included the free alternative in my original post. In past years Norton has been a real dog to run on less than optimal system environments, but with the realease of 360 last year they have made a real effort to reduce the system footprint of the software. I'm using norton on my laptop right now with no noticable problems - and this computer can only run runescape with SD graphics! In any case the point of the post was not to say that these programs should be a replacement for the system jagex plans to beef up security for runescape, no virus protection will offer that sort of security for the game! The point was to build on a previous post that said you should be careful what websites you open as they can contain viruses. When someone replied that they don't check that the sites they are going to are safe I wanted to point out that there is software that will do this for you from some very reliable developers so you don't have to do it yourself. My post wasn't necessarily about runescape security but just to point out some software that can provide you a first line of defence for your computer in general while browsing the net. Edit: Expanding on what I said about the system resources necessary to run this software I should also point out that neither application is actually scanning the web pages. McAfee and Norton are doing this themselves. Software like site advisor work by comparing the url to a database of url's on a McAfee or Nortons server that the companies themselves have taken the time to scan. As such they shouldn't slow your computer down like a virus scanner can during a full system scan. Check out my blog!www.masarius.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazi Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I would definately buy it, $20 would be a steal. As for the bank space, I could care less, as I only use 50/4XX spaces that members get anyway. Its nice to see Jagex looking out for their players. Take that Hellslayer H (aka Timmy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordjake Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 i don't think i'll buy it, unless future (f2p) updates require me to get more bank space. it would be a pain in the [wagon] to keep that key with me though - i'd be much more likely to lose the security key than to be hacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtemisCatal Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I was only really familiar with the Norton, so if the other one is free, then I appologize the error. But, if you are still playing on a computer thats 10 years old (and I still have computers in my house that came with windows 98 installed (one is a 333mhz that I uses to actually be able to play rs on, haven't tried since before hd update)) then things really do crawl to a halt (more like halt altogether). Anyway, I take the crazy women's aproch to security. Got a firewall (both physical on router and software), got a virus scanner, and clonezilla my computer periodically with day to day data stored on flash drives, linux server storage and external hardrives. A computer starts acting up, I just load up my last good comfiguration off my last clone. Time intensive, can be. Effective... has been so far. But my newest computer is also over 3 years old and all my others are frankenstiens of other people "no longer working computers" that I've cobled together into linux desktops or servers. You would be suprised how many people will throw out a computer just because the hard drive fails, or the video card burns up, or ram fails. You can take all the other bits of those computers, put them together, and actually have a computer that works, if you have a little know-how. Cutting edge computers, they aren't, but I can surf the internet, read forums, blog, and play rs. Without these cobled together pieces of junk, I could barely play at all. Don't discount those of us truly on dinosours of computers. And those computers are security holes because you can't use the latest and greatest on them. But I get by. Linux is probably what saves me most of the time. edit: as such, I am interested in how this all plays out. This thing might be neat, might be a hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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