Tanjay94 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Hey everyone! I know i am kinda nowhere here but i have a little request to anyone who would be willing to help me. I recently started an internship in programming and i would like to code my own time code to 200m all skills. unfortunately, i quitted rs a long time ago and i am not up to date with every skilling methods used. What i would like to know is: Fastest way to train every skillSkill ratio (melee/slayer ratio for exemple and anything that goes for it)Exp gain with warband per day (and the best skill to use in order plz)Exp from book of char per dayExp possible per day for farming (xp for normal run that players do everyday, not the xp from the *everything* run) I think i might be able to code something pretty accurate with all those information and id be glad to post it here for comparison. Thx in advance, Tanjay ps : if you are wondering about the bad english, it's because i am french :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I posted my xp rates and my algorithm recently. Dig through my recent posts and you'll find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gertjood Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 (I think he means himself) o and probably killerjvPieter, Scuzzy5, Tigern Ulf etc. as well 1 Raise your fist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanjay94 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 @Hedgehog I know u did but there is a couple of information missing like : When u train slayer what is the ratio gained in prayer/summon/mage/range etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serfal Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Top 15 hours according to meredith's calc 1 Drumgun 2302 Forsberg 9893 Suomi 18954 Jake 1,8035 Jdelacroix 1,9796 Geel 1,8877 Dragonseance 3,1628 Alkan 2,9939 AlmostLost 4,11410 My Kingz 3,68211 Elvis 5,31812 Roger Al 3,59413 Paperbag 6,36514 Crystalfarm 3,33315 Makaveli 5,689 Others:iTrolledU 5,942Drowns 6,427no xpwaste 5,608 (Farming is 1.6k hours of it? gj meredith)Carcass 5,651G0d vs D3vil 6,870Lobster Farm 11,755 In order:1 230 - Drumgun2 989 - Forsberg8883 1803 Jake4 1887 Geel5 1895 Suomi6 1979 Jdelacroix7 2993 Alkan8 3162 Dragonseance9 3333 Crystalfarm10 3594 Roger Al11 3682 My Kingz12 4114 Almostlost13 5318 Elvis14 5,608 no xpwaste15 5651 Carcass16 5689 Makaveli17 5942 iTrolledU18 6365 Paperbag19 6427 Drowns20 6870 G0d vs D3vil1 11755 Lobster Farm Pretty interesting.. Btw Meredith your calculator can't even do basic addition, the overall doesn't match up to the numbers put between each individual skillOnly just noticed after finishing writing this down how flawed some of these calculations are, especially the farming so, these hours are most likely A LOT less.and I mean A LOT. (im not gonna calc myself lol)I'm pretty sure you forgot a few people :) Ye why'd you include yourself but not angerfist or daniel e and people like that, licert m8 ciggy butt brain nice list tho, will be cool to see where it stands if someone manages to fix it to include bxp, though it would probably be near impossible. :s http://www.youtube.com/user/PaxSerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradfordly Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 That's easy, just assume everyone has bonus xp for every skill. Divide all of their time to 200m all by 2. 200m Agility osrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 You can't include bonus xp. You can't accurately find out how much bonus xp someone has. If you could, you still can't keep it up-to-date. You'd also have to store the bonus xp of every player in a database yourself because Jagex doesn't make theirs accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDover Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Definitely no bonus exp in a calculator, we can't assume everyone has it, or doesn't. I personally think that vinesweeper should not be used as a default. Keep it at tree runs in my opinion. People can easily opt out and do WBS for farming with tree runs for 600k/day. The vinesweeper just skews some people's results like no xpwaste, Roger Al, and Bizarrely - people who can have 1,500 hours taken off their calcs. Considering we will have a new skill and what not, we can expect at least another 1,000 hours added, and for most people on that list, 100 additional days to farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licert1 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) Top 15 hours according to meredith's calc 1 Drumgun 2302 Forsberg 9893 Suomi 18954 Jake 1,8035 Jdelacroix 1,9796 Geel 1,8877 Dragonseance 3,1628 Alkan 2,9939 AlmostLost 4,11410 My Kingz 3,68211 Elvis 5,31812 Roger Al 3,59413 Paperbag 6,36514 Crystalfarm 3,33315 Makaveli 5,689 Others:iTrolledU 5,942Drowns 6,427no xpwaste 5,608 (Farming is 1.6k hours of it? gj meredith)Carcass 5,651G0d vs D3vil 6,870Lobster Farm 11,755 In order:1 230 - Drumgun2 989 - Forsberg8883 1803 Jake4 1887 Geel5 1895 Suomi6 1979 Jdelacroix7 2993 Alkan8 3162 Dragonseance9 3333 Crystalfarm10 3594 Roger Al11 3682 My Kingz12 4114 Almostlost13 5318 Elvis14 5,608 no xpwaste15 5651 Carcass16 5689 Makaveli17 5942 iTrolledU18 6365 Paperbag19 6427 Drowns20 6870 G0d vs D3vil1 11755 Lobster Farm Pretty interesting.. Btw Meredith your calculator can't even do basic addition, the overall doesn't match up to the numbers put between each individual skillOnly just noticed after finishing writing this down how flawed some of these calculations are, especially the farming so, these hours are most likely A LOT less.and I mean A LOT. (im not gonna calc myself lol)Yeah the addition part is a little glitchy but the times for the individual skills is accurate. Farming is often pretty high because I have people do vinesweeper instead of just doing farming runs to finish 200m farming. People like Roger Al and no xpwaste, who won't finish farming quickly enough, will have a lot of hours to 200m all. It's not like they're legitimate contenders, though, because they'll be stuck with just farming for a long time. Edit: Fixed it Alright cool, didn't think of that.. cool to see you're accounting for different things Top 15 hours according to meredith's calc 1 Drumgun 2302 Forsberg 9893 Suomi 18954 Jake 1,8035 Jdelacroix 1,9796 Geel 1,8877 Dragonseance 3,1628 Alkan 2,9939 AlmostLost 4,11410 My Kingz 3,68211 Elvis 5,31812 Roger Al 3,59413 Paperbag 6,36514 Crystalfarm 3,33315 Makaveli 5,689 Others:iTrolledU 5,942Drowns 6,427no xpwaste 5,608 (Farming is 1.6k hours of it? gj meredith)Carcass 5,651G0d vs D3vil 6,870Lobster Farm 11,755 In order:1 230 - Drumgun2 989 - Forsberg8883 1803 Jake4 1887 Geel5 1895 Suomi6 1979 Jdelacroix7 2993 Alkan8 3162 Dragonseance9 3333 Crystalfarm10 3594 Roger Al11 3682 My Kingz12 4114 Almostlost13 5318 Elvis14 5,608 no xpwaste15 5651 Carcass16 5689 Makaveli17 5942 iTrolledU18 6365 Paperbag19 6427 Drowns20 6870 G0d vs D3vil1 11755 Lobster Farm Pretty interesting.. Btw Meredith your calculator can't even do basic addition, the overall doesn't match up to the numbers put between each individual skillOnly just noticed after finishing writing this down how flawed some of these calculations are, especially the farming so, these hours are most likely A LOT less.and I mean A LOT. (im not gonna calc myself lol)I'm pretty sure you forgot a few people :) I didn't forget anyone, I just didn't choose some people. Top 15 hours according to meredith's calc 1 Drumgun 2302 Forsberg 9893 Suomi 18954 Jake 1,8035 Jdelacroix 1,9796 Geel 1,8877 Dragonseance 3,1628 Alkan 2,9939 AlmostLost 4,11410 My Kingz 3,68211 Elvis 5,31812 Roger Al 3,59413 Paperbag 6,36514 Crystalfarm 3,33315 Makaveli 5,689 Others:iTrolledU 5,942Drowns 6,427no xpwaste 5,608 (Farming is 1.6k hours of it? gj meredith)Carcass 5,651G0d vs D3vil 6,870Lobster Farm 11,755 In order:1 230 - Drumgun2 989 - Forsberg8883 1803 Jake4 1887 Geel5 1895 Suomi6 1979 Jdelacroix7 2993 Alkan8 3162 Dragonseance9 3333 Crystalfarm10 3594 Roger Al11 3682 My Kingz12 4114 Almostlost13 5318 Elvis14 5,608 no xpwaste15 5651 Carcass16 5689 Makaveli17 5942 iTrolledU18 6365 Paperbag19 6427 Drowns20 6870 G0d vs D3vil1 11755 Lobster Farm Pretty interesting.. Btw Meredith your calculator can't even do basic addition, the overall doesn't match up to the numbers put between each individual skillOnly just noticed after finishing writing this down how flawed some of these calculations are, especially the farming so, these hours are most likely A LOT less.and I mean A LOT. (im not gonna calc myself lol)I'm pretty sure you forgot a few people :) Ye why'd you include yourself but not angerfist or daniel e and people like that, licert m8 ciggy butt brain nice list tho, will be cool to see where it stands if someone manages to fix it to include bxp, though it would probably be near impossible. :s I chose myself because I am a great contender for 200m all, with my highest skill being 40m cooking I feel I have a good chance. "Pieter, Scuzzy5, Tigern Ulf etc. as well" Pieter 4,305Scuzzy5 4,506Tigern Ulf 5,526Kingduffy 5,284Wisely Done 5,275Allar 6,807KillerJv 3,770Angerfist 4,687Paulrat3 7,942Y0 Sushi 7,279Green098 8,071 (lol) Have I forgotten anyone ELSE, Angerfist? @@@ NEW LIST1 220 Drumgun2 989 Forsberg3 1803 Jake4 1887 Geel5 1895 Suomi6 1979 Jdelacroix7 2993 Alkan8 3162 Dragonseance9 3333 Crystalfarm10 3595 Roger al11 3682 My Kingz12 3770 Killerjv13 4114 Almostlost14 4305 Pieter15 4506 Scuzzy516 4687 Angerfist17 5275 Wisely Done18 5284 Kingduffy19 5318 Elvis20 5526 Tigern Ulf21 5608 no xpwaste22 5651 Carcass23 5689 Makaveli24 5942 iTrolledU25 6365 Paperbag26 6427 Drowns27 6807 Allar28 6870 G0d Vs D3vil29 7297 Y0 Sushi30 7942 Paulrat331 8071 Green0981 11755 Lobster Farm (I'm so close!!) That was more of a pain in the ass than I expected tbh lol Edited June 20, 2014 by Licert1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdulla Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 what a terrible list u didnt even include me /s 1 (22:28:44) <@Leik> LE INTORNUTZ SPEEK xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licert1 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 what a terrible list u didnt even include me /sI was about to yell at you until I realised the /splzno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr148 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 You forgot buddhism Wait your only 3k hours away from green098, throw me in this calc real quick i just want to see something. And also these farm numbers do kind of skew the hours left but owell http://www.youtube.com/user/PajamaGaming^click for RS vids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The problem with farming is that if I just set it so players do warbands and farming runs, then there's no way to tell from the outside that a player won't finish farming in time. For example, Roger Al would be the 3rd closest to 200m all, but he's practically guaranteed to finish at least 7th or 8th because of farming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W48 Burthorpe Unit Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 What am I looking at Find Me Here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiZzhhMUjls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licert1 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 You forgot buddhism Wait your only 3k hours away from green098, throw me in this calc real quick i just want to see something. And also these farm numbers do kind of skew the hours left but owellfor [bleep] sake Buddhism 5,314Kr148 11,386 Happy now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rena Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 You forgot buddhism Wait your only 3k hours away from green098, throw me in this calc real quick i just want to see something. And also these farm numbers do kind of skew the hours left but owellfor [bleep] sake Buddhism 5,314Kr148 11,386 Happy now? Will you pretty please do mine?In exchange you can have a cute picture of a kitten: /s 2 現実とうひを繰り返してもうそうしてんだ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 11,307 I'm 11,166 so you're worse than me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E M R E Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Fors will hit 100M fish tomorrow probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanjay94 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Just finished my own 200m code!!! Here is what i implemented (i would really appreciate if someone could point out some mistake i could have made): first of slayer : wasn't really sure how to implement the ratio like i asked but for now all i did is reduce 1/4 of slayer xp needed from attack xp and if attack would reach 200m then i would take it off strength. Used 130k/h as xp rates for slayer. (i would need to know what ration to reduce from herblore and prayer for each slayer xp gained.) attack/strength : For what is left after slayer, i used 440k/h like Hedgehog defense/mage: 600k/h range: 400k/h prayer: 1100k/h cook:804k/h fletch:700k/h fishing:140k/h crafting:700k/h thieving:300k/h rc:130k/h hunter:350k/h summon:5000k/h Here is where it gets interesting :). After those calculation, my code register the hours needed to get 200m in all the above. Assuming an average of 15h/days, it then computes how many days reaching 200m in all of the above would take. Lets call them HOURS and DAYS to simplify the following explication. With those i am able to implement the dailys: Divination: Since it is the slowest skill, i took into account that players would use the jack of trade aura on it every day so the divination xp left would be : div xp - 24 257.5 x DAYS. The rest of the skill is trained at 95k/h. firemaking: first of, my code does fm xp - 1300k x DAYS (book of char). the rest is trained at 350k/h jebrimskill: assuming one feather is used every minutes of skilling (max of 1 feather in 45 sec, it seemed to me that 1/min would be a nice average, correct me if i am wrong plz). I can do agi xp - 51612 x HOURS (51612 is the xp gained from 1 hour with the sh boots assuming 1 feather/min, incase anybody would be lost :P) The rest is trained at 130k/h. dg : assuming all daily task are going into dg, my code does dg xp - 178932 x DAYS (i am assuming every top player as 120 dg). The rest is trained at 600k/h. wc: i really dont know where it comes from but Hedgehog added a daily wc xp of 40k into is code so i did it to :P (it would be appreciated if someone could explain it to me.) So i do wc xp - 40k x DAYS. The rest is trained at 170k/h. mining/smithing/herblore/construct: Assuming warband xp is used into this order i take 365000 xp x DAYS out of mining before training it at 110k/h. If mining reach 200m before the number of DAYS it takes for the above skill, my code automatically pass it to the next skill so smithing then herblore if any DAYS are left and finally construct. If not enough DAYS, those skill are respectively trained at 246k/h, 740k/h and 850k/h. farming: Assuming a daily xp of 74k (i am pretty sure this is wrong but i really didn't know what the right xp was), i can do farming xp - 74k x DAYS. The rest is trained at 64k/h. So this is it, thats my code! i know couple of things are assumed and i would be really glad if u guys could help me adjust it. For exemple: is 15h/day a good average? farming daily xp? Thx in advance Tanjay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licert1 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Just finished my own 200m code!!! Here is what i implemented (i would really appreciate if someone could point out some mistake i could have made): first of slayer : wasn't really sure how to implement the ratio like i asked but for now all i did is reduce 1/4 of slayer xp needed from attack xp and if attack would reach 200m then i would take it off strength. Used 130k/h as xp rates for slayer. (i would need to know what ration to reduce from herblore and prayer for each slayer xp gained.) attack/strength : For what is left after slayer, i used 440k/h like Hedgehog defense/mage: 600k/h range: 400k/h prayer: 1100k/h cook:804k/h fletch:700k/h fishing:140k/h crafting:700k/h thieving:300k/h rc:130k/h hunter:350k/h summon:5000k/h Here is where it gets interesting :). After those calculation, my code register the hours needed to get 200m in all the above. Assuming an average of 15h/days, it then computes how many days reaching 200m in all of the above would take. Lets call them HOURS and DAYS to simplify the following explication. With those i am able to implement the dailys: Divination: Since it is the slowest skill, i took into account that players would use the jack of trade aura on it every day so the divination xp left would be : div xp - 24 257.5 x DAYS. The rest of the skill is trained at 95k/h. firemaking: first of, my code does fm xp - 1300k x DAYS (book of char). the rest is trained at 350k/h jebrimskill: assuming one feather is used every minutes of skilling (max of 1 feather in 45 sec, it seemed to me that 1/min would be a nice average, correct me if i am wrong plz). I can do agi xp - 51612 x HOURS (51612 is the xp gained from 1 hour with the sh boots assuming 1 feather/min, incase anybody would be lost :P) The rest is trained at 130k/h. dg : assuming all daily task are going into dg, my code does dg xp - 178932 x DAYS (i am assuming every top player as 120 dg). The rest is trained at 600k/h. wc: i really dont know where it comes from but Hedgehog added a daily wc xp of 40k into is code so i did it to :P (it would be appreciated if someone could explain it to me.) So i do wc xp - 40k x DAYS. The rest is trained at 170k/h. mining/smithing/herblore/construct: Assuming warband xp is used into this order i take 365000 xp x DAYS out of mining before training it at 110k/h. If mining reach 200m before the number of DAYS it takes for the above skill, my code automatically pass it to the next skill so smithing then herblore if any DAYS are left and finally construct. If not enough DAYS, those skill are respectively trained at 246k/h, 740k/h and 850k/h. farming: Assuming a daily xp of 74k (i am pretty sure this is wrong but i really didn't know what the right xp was), i can do farming xp - 74k x DAYS. The rest is trained at 64k/h. So this is it, thats my code! i know couple of things are assumed and i would be really glad if u guys could help me adjust it. For exemple: is 15h/day a good average? farming daily xp? Thx in advance TanjayLooks good, you should factor in the time it takes to get bonus through fishing stealing creation & work out the average exp/hour from there, think it's like 200k/h so you'd spend 935 hours at sc for 200m starting from 13m, i cbf working out how to calculate the average from xp/hr from that but ye should do stuff like that the 43k wc xp/day is from daily locations (yew trees) from divinaiton is your crafting rate for dragonstones? because gl finding many people willing to do dragonstones tbh lol also ur farming rates way off lol (daily) idk rates but it aint that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanjay94 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Just ran a quick test for my code, assuming a player with all 99 and 120 dungeon :Time to get 200M slayer = 1438Time to get 200M attack = 318Time to get 200M defense = 311Time to get 200M strength = 425Time to get 200M range = 467Time to get 200M prayer = 170Time to get 200M mage = 311Time to get 200M cook = 232Time to get 200M fletch = 267Time to get 200M fishing = 1335Time to get 200M crafting = 267Time to get 200M thieving = 623Time to get 200M rc = 1438Time to get 200M hunter = 534Time to get 200M summon = 37Time to get 200M divination = 1959Time to get 200M woodcut = 1052Time to get 200M dg = 28Time to get 200M mining = 0Time to get 200M smithing = 0Time to get 200M herblore = 0Time to get 200M construct = 0Time to get 200M firemaking = 0Time to get 200M agility = 15Time to get 200M farming = 0Time to get 200M hp = 0Total time needed for 200M all = 11234 farming is now 250k daily (probably off again, waiting for someone to confirm number plz :)) Its funny to see how much skills a new maxed player doesn't even have to train in order to reach 200m all, even without effigy or spin implemented. Ps: could someone inform me about bonus fishing xp rates so i can workout the correct formula for average xp/h? thx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licert1 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Just ran a quick test for my code, assuming a player with all 99 and 120 dungeon :Time to get 200M slayer = 1438Time to get 200M attack = 318Time to get 200M defense = 311Time to get 200M strength = 425Time to get 200M range = 467Time to get 200M prayer = 170Time to get 200M mage = 311Time to get 200M cook = 232Time to get 200M fletch = 267Time to get 200M fishing = 1335Time to get 200M crafting = 267Time to get 200M thieving = 623Time to get 200M rc = 1438Time to get 200M hunter = 534Time to get 200M summon = 37Time to get 200M divination = 1959Time to get 200M woodcut = 1052Time to get 200M dg = 28Time to get 200M mining = 0Time to get 200M smithing = 0Time to get 200M herblore = 0Time to get 200M construct = 0Time to get 200M firemaking = 0Time to get 200M agility = 15Time to get 200M farming = 0Time to get 200M hp = 0Total time needed for 200M all = 11234 farming is now 250k daily (probably off again, waiting for someone to confirm number plz :)) Its funny to see how much skills a new maxed player doesn't even have to train in order to reach 200m all, even without effigy or spin implemented. Ps: could someone inform me about bonus fishing xp rates so i can workout the correct formula for average xp/h? thx Warbands still takes 15 minutes/day (unless you buy I guess)p.s can you put this up on a spreadsheet or something where we can calculate players for ourselves? + is this still put at 15 hr/day? if so, should put more at probably 7-9, no ones gonna play at 100% efficiency for 15 hrs/day every day also, where do you get 28 hours of dg from >.>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanjay94 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Well my code is written in python so u would need to have it downloaded as well to run it unfortunately as for the 15mins/day warband, i dont think it matters since the play time per day is already averaged... Averaging 9h/day, a new maxed player would need :Time to get 200M slayer = 1438Time to get 200M attack = 318Time to get 200M defense = 311Time to get 200M strength = 425Time to get 200M range = 467Time to get 200M prayer = 170Time to get 200M mage = 311Time to get 200M cook = 232Time to get 200M fletch = 267Time to get 200M fishing = 1335Time to get 200M crafting = 267Time to get 200M thieving = 623Time to get 200M rc = 1438Time to get 200M hunter = 534Time to get 200M summon = 37Time to get 200M divination = 1952Time to get 200M woodcut = 1020Time to get 200M dg = 0Time to get 200M mining = 0Time to get 200M smithing = 0Time to get 200M herblore = 0Time to get 200M construct = 0Time to get 200M firemaking = 0Time to get 200M agility = 41Time to get 200M farming = 0Time to get 200M hp = 0Total time needed for 200M all = 11193 It takes less playtime to reach 200m all since your taking more irl days to complete your goal meaning more xp gained from dailys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J a m e s Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 He probably gets it from daily challenges, not sure. Better to do sinkholes and use dailies on rc, though (the most efficient daily skill last I checked). noobs crowding hill giants? not on my watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanjay94 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Sorry, i didn't see your comment about dg, but James is right, like i said in my previous post, daily challenge are putted in dg. But now that i see its not the best thing to do, could you tell me how much xp does sinkholes yield in average? I could easily change my code to implemented what you said (sinkholes = dg, daily = rc) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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