Steph 454 Posted July 4, 2014 I didn't claim to know his situation. He could buy them with gp, he could buy them with rl cash. I am not him or am in a situation to ask him. Unless you have either of those options them neither you or I can do anything but speculate [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guy0ne106 79 Posted July 4, 2014 People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steph 454 Posted July 4, 2014 People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods. I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed. [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guy0ne106 79 Posted July 4, 2014 People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods.I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed. When did drumgun dice or abuse sc for 200m wc and fishing, last i checked drumgun did wc at ivy and fish at rocktails and made his gp merching. and if you say like 15 hours of the sc bug on smithing is a big deal then l0l. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Licert1 145 Posted July 4, 2014 People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods.I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed. When did drumgun dice or abuse sc for 200m wc and fishing, last i checked drumgun did wc at ivy and fish at rocktails and made his gp merching. and if you say like 15 hours of the sc bug on smithing is a big deal then l0l. this may alarm you butthis is a...... competitive game, please dont go into shock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steph 454 Posted July 4, 2014 So a little bit is fine? If it's against the rules then no matter to what extent he broke them. Does anyone have an eta on fors? [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serfal 173 Posted July 4, 2014 especially when people call fors a cheater, when if they had bills and bills, they would do excactly the same thing. and THATS why i react at those bs posts, NOT because im a forsberg adorer. well, i do respect that he went from 2b to 5b in a year. but thats all. just cant stand bs postsNobody here knows his situation. People have just heard rumours about him and depression that might not even be true. Agree with you they should all just stfu lol Also guyone, fish in c2 is 300k hr with bxp not 600k lol. http://www.youtube.com/user/PaxSerf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guy0ne106 79 Posted July 4, 2014 People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods.I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed. When did drumgun dice or abuse sc for 200m wc and fishing, last i checked drumgun did wc at ivy and fish at rocktails and made his gp merching. and if you say like 15 hours of the sc bug on smithing is a big deal then l0l. this may alarm you butthis is a...... competitive game, please dont go into shock especially when people call fors a cheater, when if they had bills and bills, they would do excactly the same thing. and THATS why i react at those bs posts, NOT because im a forsberg adorer. well, i do respect that he went from 2b to 5b in a year. but thats all. just cant stand bs postsNobody here knows his situation. People have just heard rumours about him and depression that might not even be true. Agree with you they should all just stfu lol Also guyone, fish in c2 is 300k hr with bxp not 600k lol. Sc was 680k bxp/h......................................................................................................................................................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guy0ne106 79 Posted July 4, 2014 People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods.I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed. When did drumgun dice or abuse sc for 200m wc and fishing, last i checked drumgun did wc at ivy and fish at rocktails and made his gp merching. and if you say like 15 hours of the sc bug on smithing is a big deal then l0l. this may alarm you butthis is a...... competitive game, please dont go into shock In real life if someone is found cheating to get ahead in the competition they are dqed and banned for life, in runescape its praised. Ok just shows how bad the rs community is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Licert1 145 Posted July 4, 2014 People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods.I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed. When did drumgun dice or abuse sc for 200m wc and fishing, last i checked drumgun did wc at ivy and fish at rocktails and made his gp merching. and if you say like 15 hours of the sc bug on smithing is a big deal then l0l. this may alarm you butthis is a...... competitive game, please dont go into shock In real life if someone is found cheating to get ahead in the competition they are dqed and banned for life, in runescape its praised. Ok just shows how bad the rs community is. except this kind of cheating is endorsed by jagex and promoted & legal ye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guy0ne106 79 Posted July 4, 2014 People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods.I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed. When did drumgun dice or abuse sc for 200m wc and fishing, last i checked drumgun did wc at ivy and fish at rocktails and made his gp merching. and if you say like 15 hours of the sc bug on smithing is a big deal then l0l. this may alarm you butthis is a...... competitive game, please dont go into shock In real life if someone is found cheating to get ahead in the competition they are dqed and banned for life, in runescape its praised. Ok just shows how bad the rs community is. except this kind of cheating is endorsed by jagex and promoted & legal ye If sc/dice was promoted by jagex they wont be reportable offenses. I am not discussing spins even though they are cheating in most peoples book. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Licert1 145 Posted July 4, 2014 So a little bit is fine? If it's against the rules then no matter to what extent he broke them. Does anyone have an eta on fors?Hmm... 5,263,261.2 fishing xp/day avg past 5 days ~6-7 days Mining probably around 4-6 days Agility is 130k/h at barb and probably another 40k(?) with sh so, 170k/h, 94 hrs just assume ~17-21 days People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods.I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed. When did drumgun dice or abuse sc for 200m wc and fishing, last i checked drumgun did wc at ivy and fish at rocktails and made his gp merching. and if you say like 15 hours of the sc bug on smithing is a big deal then l0l. this may alarm you butthis is a...... competitive game, please dont go into shock In real life if someone is found cheating to get ahead in the competition they are dqed and banned for life, in runescape its praised. Ok just shows how bad the rs community is. except this kind of cheating is endorsed by jagex and promoted & legal ye If sc/dice was promoted by jagex they wont be reportable offenses. I am not discussing spins even though they are cheating in most peoples book. i hate that you're able to bait me into this shit i dont think anyone here is saying dicing, sc with alts, spins AREN'T cheating 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E M R E 38 Posted July 4, 2014 i think he means spins etc. anyways /care@ guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steph 454 Posted July 4, 2014 Wow is he really that close o.o [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Licert1 145 Posted July 4, 2014 So a little bit is fine? If it's against the rules then no matter to what extent he broke them. Does anyone have an eta on fors?Hmm... 5,263,261.2 fishing xp/day avg past 5 days ~6-7 days Mining probably around 4-6 days Agility is 130k/h at barb and probably another 40k(?) with sh so, 170k/h, 94 hrs just assume ~17-21 days People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods.I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed.When did drumgun dice or abuse sc for 200m wc and fishing, last i checked drumgun did wc at ivy and fish at rocktails and made his gp merching. and if you say like 15 hours of the sc bug on smithing is a big deal then l0l.this may alarm you butthis is a...... competitive game, please dont go into shockIn real life if someone is found cheating to get ahead in the competition they are dqed and banned for life, in runescape its praised. Ok just shows how bad the rs community is.except this kind of cheating is endorsed by jagex and promoted & legal yeIf sc/dice was promoted by jagex they wont be reportable offenses. I am not discussing spins even though they are cheating in most peoples book.i hate that you're able to bait me into this shit i dont think anyone here is saying dicing, sc with alts, spins AREN'T cheatingWow is he really that close o.o yeah like 2 weeks ago or something i calced it at ~40 days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guy0ne106 79 Posted July 4, 2014 So a little bit is fine? If it's against the rules then no matter to what extent he broke them. Does anyone have an eta on fors?Hmm... 5,263,261.2 fishing xp/day avg past 5 days ~6-7 days Mining probably around 4-6 days Agility is 130k/h at barb and probably another 40k(?) with sh so, 170k/h, 94 hrs just assume ~17-21 days People say what Forsberg did isn't cheating. Although it wasn't at the time, because jagex is extremely slow at deciding when something needs to be stopped. Dicing was finally something jagex considered to be against the rules one year later. of course this was more for rwt rather than people getting gp for 200m all, it still ended up being against the rules. So obviously it was cheating and Jagex was just too slow to do anything about it. Multilogging to benefit in minigames Jagex was also too slow to remove, allowing a lot of players to get all the bxp they needed for 200m all. again it was cheating and these are methods People who are competing for 200m all can not use these anymore, because they are now against the rules. But people who got a year out of dicing get to keep all their gp and others have to figure out other methods to make gp. It's Jagex's fault for allowing players to use these methods for so long, then just removing them so future players can ever use them again, and players fault for actually thinking that 680k bxp/h in something like fish or wc is actually an intended feature. Jagex says to use common sense, obviously players pretend they have none so they can continue to abuse these methods.I don't like how this contradicts the amount of respect for drumgun you've displayed. When did drumgun dice or abuse sc for 200m wc and fishing, last i checked drumgun did wc at ivy and fish at rocktails and made his gp merching. and if you say like 15 hours of the sc bug on smithing is a big deal then l0l. this may alarm you butthis is a...... competitive game, please dont go into shock In real life if someone is found cheating to get ahead in the competition they are dqed and banned for life, in runescape its praised. Ok just shows how bad the rs community is. except this kind of cheating is endorsed by jagex and promoted & legal ye If sc/dice was promoted by jagex they wont be reportable offenses. I am not discussing spins even though they are cheating in most peoples book. i hate that you're able to bait me into this shit i dont think anyone here is saying dicing, sc with alts, spins AREN'T cheating He did dice and sc though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steph 454 Posted July 4, 2014 I feel like this is becoming an opinion vs opinion situation again, I'd be happy to discuss this in pm if you want to continue [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hedgehog 2501 Posted July 4, 2014 If you have a problem with how someone is behaving, report them and move on 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muggiwhplar 2221 Posted July 4, 2014 Or just do what I do and put half of this thread's regular posters on your ignore list :lol: This thread's very tame and more rational for me to read now. Only about 5-10 posts/page max instead of 20 :D 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex PFC 0 Posted July 4, 2014 inb4 new skill is released an drumgun has to get 200m in that too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J a m e s 148 Posted July 5, 2014 To echo what guy0ne106 said a couple pages back, the only vaguely competitive aspect of the last few years of RS has been how hard you can abuse the broken or overpowered XP or GP methods while they still exist or are legal. Examples:- AFK barraging dags before aggro range severe nerf- barraging abyss before AOE spells were heavily nerfed (alongside daily slaying abyssal demons w/ mask and barrage, was ~260k slay xp/hr self tested at the time)- kalphite king slaying with a bunch of Twitch stream slaves (1mil+ slay xp/hr, still possible)- general ridiculous minigame BXP accumulation- dice hosting I'm sure you guys can think of many others since I wasn't playing RS3 for most of 2013/2014. It's not totally just a recent thing either; SUOMI and many others suckled at the teat of effigyscape by cannoning cave crawlers. This is all totally ignoring RWTscape of course, where like someone else said XP is being shoved down the throats of RWTers during Prismania weekends... Anyway, huge props to Drumgun for being 2nd person to 200m all. 1 noobs crowding hill giants? not on my watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artemis1330 453 Posted July 5, 2014 To echo what guy0ne106 said a couple pages back, the only vaguely competitive aspect of the last few years of RS has been how hard you can abuse the broken or overpowered XP or GP methods while they still exist or are legal. Examples: - AFK barraging dags before aggro range severe nerf - barraging abyss before AOE spells were heavily nerfed (alongside daily slaying abyssal demons w/ mask and barrage, was ~260k slay xp/hr self tested at the time) - kalphite king slaying with a bunch of Twitch stream slaves (1mil+ slay xp/hr, still possible) - general ridiculous minigame BXP accumulation - dice hosting I'm sure you guys can think of many others since I wasn't playing RS3 for most of 2013/2014. It's not totally just a recent thing either; SUOMI and many others suckled at the teat of effigyscape by cannoning cave crawlers. This is all totally ignoring RWTscape of course, where like someone else said XP is being shoved down the throats of RWTers during Prismania weekends... Anyway, huge props to Drumgun for being 2nd person to 200m all. To counter that, methods have been getting "more op" for 10 years. Let's go back to 76king for bills and brawlers. Half the top page did that. How about ge merching during first year after release? It had no limits whatsoever. Half rs was harping about the death of merching while the other half was pulling in hundreds of mil/day while harldy touching offers. Then before that there was gwd for insane amounts of gp/hour that have never been matched in pvm to this day. All the way back to hunter release, when certain players found out about chinning and hoarded hundreds of millions of red chins for pennies, used what they needed, leaked it to friends, and sold millions of chins for 1000% profit. I can give many more examples going back 10 years. Yes, the scale of the gainz increases (as in the xp/hour just goes up), but my point is it's always been this way. 3 I am not a skiller, but i do some skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kr148 193 Posted July 5, 2014 Oooo looks like alkan will be the third person to get 120 all stats in the next day or so. He could have been the first a long time ago but he stopped on div for a while. O well cool none the less http://www.youtube.com/user/PajamaGaming^click for RS vids Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steph 454 Posted July 5, 2014 To echo what guy0ne106 said a couple pages back, the only vaguely competitive aspect of the last few years of RS has been how hard you can abuse the broken or overpowered XP or GP methods while they still exist or are legal. Examples:- AFK barraging dags before aggro range severe nerf- barraging abyss before AOE spells were heavily nerfed (alongside daily slaying abyssal demons w/ mask and barrage, was ~260k slay xp/hr self tested at the time)- kalphite king slaying with a bunch of Twitch stream slaves (1mil+ slay xp/hr, still possible)- general ridiculous minigame BXP accumulation- dice hosting I'm sure you guys can think of many others since I wasn't playing RS3 for most of 2013/2014. It's not totally just a recent thing either; SUOMI and many others suckled at the teat of effigyscape by cannoning cave crawlers. This is all totally ignoring RWTscape of course, where like someone else said XP is being shoved down the throats of RWTers during Prismania weekends... Anyway, huge props to Drumgun for being 2nd person to 200m all.To counter that, methods have been getting "more op" for 10 years. Let's go back to 76king for bills and brawlers. Half the top page did that. How about ge merching during first year after release? It had no limits whatsoever. Half rs was harping about the death of merching while the other half was pulling in hundreds of mil/day while harldy touching offers. Then before that there was gwd for insane amounts of gp/hour that have never been matched in pvm to this day. All the way back to hunter release, when certain players found out about chinning and hoarded hundreds of millions of red chins for pennies, used what they needed, leaked it to friends, and sold millions of chins for 1000% profit. I can give many more examples going back 10 years. Yes, the scale of the gainz increases (as in the xp/hour just goes up), but my point is it's always been this way.It's almost like Runescape is a regularly updated game 5 [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artemis1330 453 Posted July 5, 2014 To echo what guy0ne106 said a couple pages back, the only vaguely competitive aspect of the last few years of RS has been how hard you can abuse the broken or overpowered XP or GP methods while they still exist or are legal. Examples: - AFK barraging dags before aggro range severe nerf - barraging abyss before AOE spells were heavily nerfed (alongside daily slaying abyssal demons w/ mask and barrage, was ~260k slay xp/hr self tested at the time) - kalphite king slaying with a bunch of Twitch stream slaves (1mil+ slay xp/hr, still possible) - general ridiculous minigame BXP accumulation - dice hosting I'm sure you guys can think of many others since I wasn't playing RS3 for most of 2013/2014. It's not totally just a recent thing either; SUOMI and many others suckled at the teat of effigyscape by cannoning cave crawlers. This is all totally ignoring RWTscape of course, where like someone else said XP is being shoved down the throats of RWTers during Prismania weekends... Anyway, huge props to Drumgun for being 2nd person to 200m all.To counter that, methods have been getting "more op" for 10 years. Let's go back to 76king for bills and brawlers. Half the top page did that. How about ge merching during first year after release? It had no limits whatsoever. Half rs was harping about the death of merching while the other half was pulling in hundreds of mil/day while harldy touching offers. Then before that there was gwd for insane amounts of gp/hour that have never been matched in pvm to this day. All the way back to hunter release, when certain players found out about chinning and hoarded hundreds of millions of red chins for pennies, used what they needed, leaked it to friends, and sold millions of chins for 1000% profit. I can give many more examples going back 10 years. Yes, the scale of the gainz increases (as in the xp/hour just goes up), but my point is it's always been this way. It's almost like Runescape is a regularly updated game Yes Steph, Runescape is updated regularly. Thank you for taking James and my posts and adding such insightful wisdom to the conversation. Anyway James, just thought I'd add that I do agree with you as well. And the unfortunate part of all this is that Jagex has taught us the only thing to do with these op methods that pop is to take advantage of them, asap, to the maximum extent. Because while you're waiting for the nerf others will take full advantage of them for 18 hours/day and they will get miles ahead. 2 I am not a skiller, but i do some skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites