200M in all Skills

[Excess]

Gemeos2 , why do you lie so much?

[Agen]

I don't think Suomi skipped the step of making money, because he had to build up his reputation by doing strenuous, slow skills so that people would believe in him and his goal for 200m all skills. He has just chosen the fastest way to get to 200m all skills and that's what he's always tried to do, get to 200m the fastest way possible (with insaneness aside [thrones for construction]). If you don't like his way of making money then there's absolutely nothing you can do about it because he's probably approaching the point of not needing them anymore anyway. It's all done and dusted.

[Capo_di_Capi]

 

None. If all a skill takes is extended patience, and a lot of clicking over time, (which means anyone has the potential to, provided they have hands and a lot of free time), there's essentially no real value you can take away from an achievement, other than patience, which is also useful when applied to a plethora of other areas where it can be more productively used. Of course, it may seem like more than that to some players, but I'm the showing the reality of the situation to those few players who are too shy, or deluded, to admit the truth to themselves.

 

Congratulations, you found out after you achieved 99 Strength, that you're a patient person, and that you're "superior" to a few million players for a while. Don't get me wrong. It certainly is an achievement that you meticulously planned this goal, but what was used up in the process? Just your patience and free time. Nothing else. It didn't require advanced mental calculation, it didn't require research into several interdisciplinary areas of study, it didn't require you to formulate an advanced equation, or falsifiable hypothesis, if we wish to compare how the two values could have been used.

 

Bottom line, don't take so seriously a game where nothing takes real skill. That means even relying on someone else, for a short period of time, won't take away much real value already inherent in your goal. Cash donations and having people light fires for you? No difference in the end result, sorry. When you start assigning values like 'integrity' and 'skill' (which in my opinion, are being grossly overused) to an achievement that doesn't take any more real skill then patience, you're going to lead to ridiculous conclusions, and hence delusions, about an achievements' worth. That's because what RS really is, never served, nor ever will serve, as a reliable standard for gauging 'skill'.

 

The above isn't intended to stem or dissuade discussion in this particular vein. I think it's interesting who will reach first for all skills, if that even happens. It's more directed at the players who devalue achievements using these same arbitrary values, and bash others for supporting strategic methods contrary to their opinion.

 

It seems, Osiris, that you and I agree at least on the issue of donations, but I still dislike how you bashed someone else for lacking 'credentials' and the needless ad hominem attacks. You could've conducted yourself more maturely.

 

 

Sounds great. In theory.

 

It's not all about having hands and patience, to be honest. 200M all skills is not something anyone can achieve, even if we get rid of the time-factor. It's dedication (even if it takes you 100 years) and motivation. Willpower is the big thing here, and believe it or not but must people don't even have the willpower to get 99 RC through ZMI, let alone 200M Cooking, let alone 200M all skills.

 

Why has nobody achieved 200M all skills yet? Not because it couldn't happen in the time RS2 exists. Hundreds if not thousands of people had and probably still have this goal. And most of them will eventually quit because of boredom, which is understandable to me. Is boredom a lack of patience? Not sure, but if it is that means that patience is not something anyone can 'use' to achieve 200M all. If it is not, I can connect boredom to willpower and therefore also concluding that it's not all about 'just' having the patience and time.

 

About the value of achievement. Let's say Drumgun gets 200M all on the same day as Suomi does, somewhere in '15. Drumgun mainly DIY'd his way and Suomi took donations. The result for both is the same obviously, but I would value Drumgun's achievement over Suomi's. Now this is of course fictitious but I'm trying to say that not every achievement is (IMO!!!) the same achievement, just because the numbers say so.

 

One last thing. Everyone could be a professor in History, right? Only thing you need is a lot of patience and time to read all those books. There's probably some researching involved but hey, time is on your hands.

 

-Noble

 

 

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you in any way, my native language isn't English. I hope I was clear enough :).

[RU_Insane]

 

None. If all a skill takes is extended patience, and a lot of clicking over time, (which means anyone has the potential to, provided they have hands and a lot of free time), there's essentially no real value you can take away from an achievement, other than patience, which is also useful when applied to a plethora of other areas where it can be more productively used. Of course, it may seem like more than that to some players, but I'm the showing the reality of the situation to those few players who are too shy, or deluded, to admit the truth to themselves.

 

Congratulations, you found out after you achieved 99 Strength, that you're a patient person, and that you're "superior" to a few million players for a while. Don't get me wrong. It certainly is an achievement that you meticulously planned this goal, but what was used up in the process? Just your patience and free time. Nothing else. It didn't require advanced mental calculation, it didn't require research into several interdisciplinary areas of study, it didn't require you to formulate an advanced equation, or falsifiable hypothesis, if we wish to compare how the two values could have been used.

 

Bottom line, don't take so seriously a game where nothing takes real skill. That means even relying on someone else, for a short period of time, won't take away much real value already inherent in your goal. Cash donations and having people light fires for you? No difference in the end result, sorry. When you start assigning values like 'integrity' and 'skill' (which in my opinion, are being grossly overused) to an achievement that doesn't take any more real skill then patience, you're going to lead to ridiculous conclusions, and hence delusions, about an achievements' worth. That's because what RS really is, never served, nor ever will serve, as a reliable standard for gauging 'skill'.

 

The above isn't intended to stem or dissuade discussion in this particular vein. I think it's interesting who will reach first for all skills, if that even happens. It's more directed at the players who devalue achievements using these same arbitrary values, and bash others for supporting strategic methods contrary to their opinion.

 

It seems, Osiris, that you and I agree at least on the issue of donations, but I still dislike how you bashed someone else for lacking 'credentials' and the needless ad hominem attacks. You could've conducted yourself more maturely.

 

 

Sounds great. In theory.

 

It's not all about having hands and patience, to be honest. 200M all skills is not something anyone can achieve, even if we get rid of the time-factor. It's dedication (even if it takes you 100 years) and motivation. Willpower is the big thing here, and believe it or not but must people don't even have the willpower to get 99 RC through ZMI, let alone 200M Cooking, let alone 200M all skills.

 

Why has nobody achieved 200M all skills yet? Not because it couldn't happen in the time RS2 exists. Hundreds if not thousands of people had and probably still have this goal. And most of them will eventually quit because of boredom, which is understandable to me. Is boredom a lack of patience? Not sure, but if it is that means that patience is not something anyone can 'use' to achieve 200M all. If it is not, I can connect boredom to willpower and therefore also concluding that it's not all about 'just' having the patience and time.

 

About the value of achievement. Let's say Drumgun gets 200M all on the same day as Suomi does, somewhere in '15. Drumgun mainly DIY'd his way and Suomi took donations. The result for both is the same obviously, but I would value Drumgun's achievement over Suomi's. Now this is of course fictitious but I'm trying to say that not every achievement is (IMO!!!) the same achievement, just because the numbers say so.

 

One last thing. Everyone could be a professor in History, right? Only thing you need is a lot of patience and time to read all those books. There's probably some researching involved but hey, time is on your hands.

 

-Noble

 

 

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you in any way, my native language isn't English. I hope I was clear enough :).

 

 

You were clear. :)

 

You bring up a good point. Maybe I oversimplified by reducing skill to just two factors of patience and time. Motivation is indeed a large factor in continued game play. But I'd argue that if you have motivation, that you have patience to an extent too. I understand why you'd value Drumgun's achievement over Suomi's. I'm fine with that. You're justified to do so. I just think in the end, the difference between their respective achievements isn't as big as some are making it out to be. :P I think boredom is a lack of motivation. I'd say a lack of patience is frustration. I think the two can intersect though (e.g. bored and frustrated, patient and motivated).

 

Gemeos2 , why do you lie so much?

 

Twelve minutes ago, your location was in Brazil. Now it's in Lithuania. Your first post is also attacking someone for no reason, and you posted right after Osiris. Are you his alt? I know this is off topic, but seriously? Quit trolling.

[Hedgehog]

He changed his location to Lithuania because of me, silly. Quit trolling, mate.

[Paperbag]

I think I see a little problem with Suomi's farming xp. If he were to keep the pace he trains it now with about 1.4m a week, he won't get 200m farm for another 600 days ish. That seems like a problem because Suomi is just beasting through skills these days and the only "long" thing left he has to do is cave crawlers for 200m rc. I think it could take less than 600 days for him to finish what he has left. So maybe he should pick up the pace in farming to make sure he gets it before everything else is done. But I guess if worse comes to worse he could always go on herb and watermelon runs or do livid farm even though both are pretty crappy xp. What do you guys think?

[RU_Insane]

He changed his location to Lithuania because of me, silly. Quit trolling, mate.

 

I'm not trolling, I pointed it out because I thought it was suspicious. Even if you told him to change his location, it wasn't obvious, because that wasn't posted anywhere in the thread. Now that I've been corrected, I'll drop the issue, but not because you told me to.

 

@topic: When do you think someone will reach 200M in all skills? I know this has been asked before, but what are your thoughts now? I say 2015.

[Paperbag]

@topic: When do you think someone will reach 200M in all skills? I know this has been asked before, but what are your thoughts now? I say 2015.

Way before that if Suomi keeps up his pace. I say early 2013. But hopefully it can be before 12/21/12 because the world will end. :thumbsup:

[Paperbag]

Congratulations to Tezz on rank 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-o

1 xp over lol gf elias

[Suomi_Finland]

I think I see a little problem with Suomi's farming xp. If he were to keep the pace he trains it now with about 1.4m a week, he won't get 200m farm for another 600 days ish. That seems like a problem because Suomi is just beasting through skills these days and the only "long" thing left he has to do is cave crawlers for 200m rc. I think it could take less than 600 days for him to finish what he has left. So maybe he should pick up the pace in farming to make sure he gets it before everything else is done. But I guess if worse comes to worse he could always go on herb and watermelon runs or do livid farm even though both are pretty crappy xp. What do you guys think?

 

I will get about 20M+ Farming Xp from effigy stages while getting 200M Runecrafting at Cave crawlers, I don't think 200M Farming will be a problem. Even if it was my last 200M skill I could always effigy it, almost 25M Farming Xp/month so it's not really a problem.

 

About donations, it's fine if someone doesn't want to value my achievements because of donations but no need to get personal. Some day rs might not be here anymore. Personally I would never dislike/hate someone just for playing the game, especially when I am not breaking any rules or trying to harm anyone.

 

Even with donations 200M all skills takes so much time and thanks for understanding that I didn't just suddenly get all my donations. I have been working on this goal for over 3 years and have played over 20k hours. And it's a race against time, world might end before I make it so all the help was more than needed.

 

Also gratz Tezz on rank 2, 1 Xp over 3B looks funny haha =P

[Popetaco]

@topic: When do you think someone will reach 200M in all skills? I know this has been asked before, but what are your thoughts now? I say 2015.

Way before that if Suomi keeps up his pace. I say early 2013. But hopefully it can be before 12/21/12 because the world will end. :thumbsup:

 

Maybe the Mayans were just predicting when SUOMI would achieve his goal? Makes sense to me.

[Jagerblue]

I think I see a little problem with Suomi's farming xp. If he were to keep the pace he trains it now with about 1.4m a week, he won't get 200m farm for another 600 days ish. That seems like a problem because Suomi is just beasting through skills these days and the only "long" thing left he has to do is cave crawlers for 200m rc. I think it could take less than 600 days for him to finish what he has left. So maybe he should pick up the pace in farming to make sure he gets it before everything else is done. But I guess if worse comes to worse he could always go on herb and watermelon runs or do livid farm even though both are pretty crappy xp. What do you guys think?

He should get a substantial amount from the countless effigies he will get from 10m slayer xp and 160m rc xp..

[Paperbag]

I honestly forgot about them lol

Only used a few myself

[Aribiterspar]

I think I see a little problem with Suomi's farming xp. If he were to keep the pace he trains it now with about 1.4m a week, he won't get 200m farm for another 600 days ish. That seems like a problem because Suomi is just beasting through skills these days and the only "long" thing left he has to do is cave crawlers for 200m rc. I think it could take less than 600 days for him to finish what he has left. So maybe he should pick up the pace in farming to make sure he gets it before everything else is done. But I guess if worse comes to worse he could always go on herb and watermelon runs or do livid farm even though both are pretty crappy xp. What do you guys think?

 

I will get about 20M+ Farming Xp from effigy stages while getting 200M Runecrafting at Cave crawlers, I don't think 200M Farming will be a problem. Even if it was my last 200M skill I could always effigy it, almost 25M Farming Xp/month so it's not really a problem.

 

About donations, it's fine if someone doesn't want to value my achievements because of donations but no need to get personal. Some day rs might not be here anymore. Personally I would never dislike/hate someone just for playing the game, especially when I am not breaking any rules or trying to harm anyone.

 

Even with donations 200M all skills takes so much time and thanks for understanding that I didn't just suddenly get all my donations. I have been working on this goal for over 3 years and have played over 20k hours. And it's a race against time, world might end before I make it so all the help was more than needed.

 

Also gratz Tezz on rank 2, 1 Xp over 3B looks funny haha =P

 

Donations are part of the game till Jagex makes them illegal all complaints are just jelly. Even @ drumguns future comment about to claim to not be jelly its really a ridiculous argument then, if suomi was doing something that wasnt available to anybody else then yeah it might be un fair but its YOUR OWN choice to not make it widely known you accept donations or ask for them and nothing is stopping you or anybody else complaining about donations from doing it except yourself, he has no extra advantage except from obviously being smart enough to take advantage of an opportunity and it would be completely foolish to not do it. Saying his xp is less valuable because he got donations is no different than complaining somebody got 200m agility quicker because they did advanced barbarian and you did brimhaven while barbarian was completely available to you as well you just didnt feel like doing it. Yeah the person may have worked longer and harder because they did brimhaven instead of barb but there fault for not just doing barb.

 

Life lesson: Work smarter not harder, your own faults if you can figure that out.

[Jacks0n]

i will be first to 200m all skills.

[Jebrim]

He changed his location to Lithuania because of me, silly. Quit trolling, mate.

 

I'm not trolling, I pointed it out because I thought it was suspicious. Even if you told him to change his location, it wasn't obvious, because that wasn't posted anywhere in the thread. Now that I've been corrected, I'll drop the issue, but not because you told me to.

 

@topic: When do you think someone will reach 200M in all skills? I know this has been asked before, but what are your thoughts now? I say 2015.

2012

[Jebrim]

 

None. If all a skill takes is extended patience, and a lot of clicking over time, (which means anyone has the potential to, provided they have hands and a lot of free time), there's essentially no real value you can take away from an achievement, other than patience, which is also useful when applied to a plethora of other areas where it can be more productively used. Of course, it may seem like more than that to some players, but I'm the showing the reality of the situation to those few players who are too shy, or deluded, to admit the truth to themselves.

 

Congratulations, you found out after you achieved 99 Strength, that you're a patient person, and that you're "superior" to a few million players for a while. Don't get me wrong. It certainly is an achievement that you meticulously planned this goal, but what was used up in the process? Just your patience and free time. Nothing else. It didn't require advanced mental calculation, it didn't require research into several interdisciplinary areas of study, it didn't require you to formulate an advanced equation, or falsifiable hypothesis, if we wish to compare how the two values could have been used.

 

Bottom line, don't take so seriously a game where nothing takes real skill. That means even relying on someone else, for a short period of time, won't take away much real value already inherent in your goal. Cash donations and having people light fires for you? No difference in the end result, sorry. When you start assigning values like 'integrity' and 'skill' (which in my opinion, are being grossly overused) to an achievement that doesn't take any more real skill then patience, you're going to lead to ridiculous conclusions, and hence delusions, about an achievements' worth. That's because what RS really is, never served, nor ever will serve, as a reliable standard for gauging 'skill'.

 

The above isn't intended to stem or dissuade discussion in this particular vein. I think it's interesting who will reach first for all skills, if that even happens. It's more directed at the players who devalue achievements using these same arbitrary values, and bash others for supporting strategic methods contrary to their opinion.

 

It seems, Osiris, that you and I agree at least on the issue of donations, but I still dislike how you bashed someone else for lacking 'credentials' and the needless ad hominem attacks. You could've conducted yourself more maturely.

 

 

Sounds great. In theory.

 

It's not all about having hands and patience, to be honest. 200M all skills is not something anyone can achieve, even if we get rid of the time-factor. It's dedication (even if it takes you 100 years) and motivation. Willpower is the big thing here, and believe it or not but must people don't even have the willpower to get 99 RC through ZMI, let alone 200M Cooking, let alone 200M all skills.

 

Why has nobody achieved 200M all skills yet? Not because it couldn't happen in the time RS2 exists. Hundreds if not thousands of people had and probably still have this goal. And most of them will eventually quit because of boredom, which is understandable to me. Is boredom a lack of patience? Not sure, but if it is that means that patience is not something anyone can 'use' to achieve 200M all. If it is not, I can connect boredom to willpower and therefore also concluding that it's not all about 'just' having the patience and time.

 

About the value of achievement. Let's say Drumgun gets 200M all on the same day as Suomi does, somewhere in '15. Drumgun mainly DIY'd his way and Suomi took donations. The result for both is the same obviously, but I would value Drumgun's achievement over Suomi's. Now this is of course fictitious but I'm trying to say that not every achievement is (IMO!!!) the same achievement, just because the numbers say so.

 

One last thing. Everyone could be a professor in History, right? Only thing you need is a lot of patience and time to read all those books. There's probably some researching involved but hey, time is on your hands.

 

-Noble

 

 

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you in any way, my native language isn't English. I hope I was clear enough :).

 

Hundreds/thousands have not had 200m all skills as a goal lol. Drumgun isn't interested nor has he chosen the right steps, and it won't be 2015 before someone gets it. Just next year.

[Souml]

I just wish, runescape doesn't die spontaneously soon. I want to be able to see what i and many others been waiting to see... Max total =] I'm still completely awed when i see s u o m i with 3.2bil xp. Its truly amazing. I''ve been a Zezima fanboy since i started runescape back in 2004 and i cant remember anyone getting this much attention since him. Good luck S u o m i in your wicked goals =] Its a legendary accomplishment regardless how you get it. :D

[Slayin_Zoras]

Now all that is left is for Drumgun to make his Alog public to so I can stalk it like I do tezz's and now Suomi's :ohnoes:

[Existent]

Has anyone tried barbarian fishing recently, for some reason my character stops fishing every 4-5 fish.

 

Edit: Apparently you can now get strange rocks from barbarian fishing.

[codecRS]

i liked this thread when it was about people getting 200M in all skills and not peoples ego's

[Tama]

Not sure if it's been posted, but congratulations to S U O M I on overtaking Dark Lust and now holding the overall monthly record.

[A13d]

Has anyone tried barbarian fishing recently, for some reason my character stops fishing every 4-5 fish.

 

Edit: Apparently you can now get strange rocks from barbarian fishing.

This has been happening to me at Rocktails as well. Extremely annoying when trying to do homework.

[Jaccoud]

It's really hard to convice people to donate to your 200m in all skills goals, mostly because people wouldn't believe that you are capable of doing it.

If Suomi managed to grow his reputation and got alot of money from it: good for him.

 

Anyone can do the same.

[Viv]

i will be first to 200m all skills.

no imaget 200m all skills first!! i got secret military no sleep technology goodfight suomi!