200M in all Skills

[Aribiterspar]

@squareroot Most would be slaying for their effigies I guess. With a task list of 10-11 tasks it's possible for all of the tasks to be 2.5hours an effigy or lower. Or like some people quote ~100k slayer xp @ ~40k xp/hr avg.

You will get less range xp per hr slaying, but more melee & hp xp I'd guess. Slayer also has the benefit of breaking even at least on cash.

However if you have a huge cash pile ~1b+ it could be viable as if you spent every effigy on slayer xp, you'd be earning ~45k slayer xp/hr. You would lose out on using the lamp on say, rc Xp, but would gain 2x more xp in the slower skills as you are getting effigies at close to twice the rate of top slaying.

 

Then you have to factor in the time it takes to make the cash (This doesn't take into consideration if you have a huge cash pile already). So since cave crawlers is -1.5-2m/hr and powerslaying is 0 - 1m+ an hr, every couple hours of cave crawlers attributes to 1hr of money making.

 

Lots of efficiency values to work out & if anyone wants to do them, i'd love to add it to my effigy guide.

 

Actually with cannon and steel titan your range keeps up with your slayer and your melee falls behind

[Yay0siris]

to people saying suomi got his skills in 2.5 years.. i'm pretty sure suomi has been a top player since rsc (2004) because i remember seeing his name in the HS back when i played rsc and I think he was top21 in fishing even back then.

[Zarfnot]

Since this is by far the best place to talk about playing efficient I have a little question.

 

I recently fm'ed yew logs to 94 but i intend to get 99 wc, so i decided to try out teaks today. They seem epic xp and I am alching the logs that my adze doesn't burn. My relevant levels are 94 FM, 80 WC and 85 Mage. Assuming i stay here to 99 WC does anyone have any ideas at all what magic/firemaking level ill end up with? Any xp rates would also be fantastic or other suggestions.

 

Im currently flipping +50m profit a week so ill be taking quick regular breaks to the ge. Also should I keep these "Special Teak Logs" that are used for the sawmill minigame (I have no idea what they are for).

 

Any feedback appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

ZarfNot / Jon

[Articultural]

Special teak logs give a reduced price when turning logs into planks, useless as turning logs into planks is a waste of time. :P

[Aribiterspar]

Since this is by far the best place to talk about playing efficient I have a little question.

 

I recently fm'ed yew logs to 94 but i intend to get 99 wc, so i decided to try out teaks today. They seem epic xp and I am alching the logs that my adze doesn't burn. My relevant levels are 94 FM, 80 WC and 85 Mage. Assuming i stay here to 99 WC does anyone have any ideas at all what magic/firemaking level ill end up with? Any xp rates would also be fantastic or other suggestions.

 

Im currently flipping +50m profit a week so ill be taking quick regular breaks to the ge. Also should I keep these "Special Teak Logs" that are used for the sawmill minigame (I have no idea what they are for).

 

Any feedback appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

ZarfNot / Jon

 

 

alch the special teaks

[Aiel]

Since this is by far the best place to talk about playing efficient I have a little question.

 

I recently fm'ed yew logs to 94 but i intend to get 99 wc, so i decided to try out teaks today. They seem epic xp and I am alching the logs that my adze doesn't burn. My relevant levels are 94 FM, 80 WC and 85 Mage. Assuming i stay here to 99 WC does anyone have any ideas at all what magic/firemaking level ill end up with? Any xp rates would also be fantastic or other suggestions.

 

Im currently flipping +50m profit a week so ill be taking quick regular breaks to the ge. Also should I keep these "Special Teak Logs" that are used for the sawmill minigame (I have no idea what they are for).

 

Any feedback appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

ZarfNot / Jon

There's an entire forum (help and advice) for questions like this.

[Xensure]

Since this is by far the best place to talk about playing efficient I have a little question.

 

I recently fm'ed yew logs to 94 but i intend to get 99 wc, so i decided to try out teaks today. They seem epic xp and I am alching the logs that my adze doesn't burn. My relevant levels are 94 FM, 80 WC and 85 Mage. Assuming i stay here to 99 WC does anyone have any ideas at all what magic/firemaking level ill end up with? Any xp rates would also be fantastic or other suggestions.

 

Im currently flipping +50m profit a week so ill be taking quick regular breaks to the ge. Also should I keep these "Special Teak Logs" that are used for the sawmill minigame (I have no idea what they are for).

 

Any feedback appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

ZarfNot / Jon

 

 

WCing teaks gives about 30% FMing xp compared to WCing xp.

The xp from 80-99 is about 11m xp. (.3)(11m) = 3.3m FMing xp (You should get about this much FMing xp from 80-99 WCing)

Since each log is 85xp you need to cut 129k of them from 80-99 WCing.

You get 105xp from every log burned so, 105*(x)=3.3m, Therefore you burn around 31k of the logs you get.

129k-31k = 98k logs left to alch.

At 65xp each alch, 98k*65 = 6.37m Mage xp

 

These calculations don't take in to account lumberjack, but that shouldn't effect the numbers too much.

[deyan2]

15 November:

Well 2 people already have 200M in dungeoneering. That was the fastest time 200M has been gotten in a new skill..wonder how long it'll take for the top 21 to be filled up.

under a month

Want to bet? No way it's going to be with one month only.

12/22 places given allready

It's still getting close :P

[Aylarliez]

to people saying suomi got his skills in 2.5 years.. i'm pretty sure suomi has been a top player since rsc (2004) because i remember seeing his name in the HS back when i played rsc and I think he was top21 in fishing even back then.

 

His account are from classic times yes, but the fact is that he did get 200M flet, 200M agil, 200M mining, 200M smith, 200M cook, 200M fishing and almost 200M mage in 2.5 years (actualy more like 2 years 3 months or so). He had no over xp's that matters in those skills.

[deyan2]

Serpent had ? 0M xp at 2007 (12.8M xp at 24 april 2008 maxed at 434M xp on 6 march 2010)

Telmomr had 62M xp at 16 oktober 2007 (maxed at 389M xp on 15 juni 2009, had 1446M xp on 15 juni 2010)

Timlhye had 137M xp at 15 oktober 2007 (maxed at 251M xp on 27 april 2008, had 1026M xp on 27 april 2009)

Dapledo had 164M xp at 30 oktober 2007 (maxed at 502M xp on 15 febru 2009, had 999M xp on 15 febru 2010)

suomi had 166M xp at 16 oktober 2007 (Never maxed...)

Drumgun had 184M xp at 15 oktober 2007 (ttllvl 2343 840M xp on 10 may 2009, had total 2347 and 1647M on 10 may 2010)

Zarfot had 184M xp at 14 oktober 2007 (maxed at 427M xp on 25 juli 2008, had 1051M xp on 25 juli 2009, had 2033M xp on 25 juli 2010)

Lowland had 200M xp at 24 oktober 2007 (never really maxed, hard to track)

Jdlcrox had 238M xp at 14 oktober 2007 (maxed at 361M xp on 15 may 2008, had 861M xp on 15 may 2009, had 1834M xp on 15 may 2010)

Delta 81 had 330M xp at 15 oktober 2007 (maxed at 428M xp on 13 march 2008, had 1044M xp on 13 march 2009, had 1129M xp on 13 march 2010)

Skiller had 370M xp at 17 oktober 2007 (maxed at 490M xp on 20 april 2008, had 1261M xp on 20 april 2009, had 1993M xp on 20 april 2010)

Gertjrs had 419M xp at 11 oktober 2007 (maxed at 645M xp on 15 march 2008, had 1510M xp on 15 march 2009)

Kingduf had 516M xp at 16 oktober 2007 (maxed at 695M xp on 13 febru 2008, had 1141M xp on 13 febru 2009, had 1467M xp on 13 febru 2010)

Zezima had 1102M xp at 17 oktober 2007

 

Some are hard to compare because they continue to train when they are not maxed yet or train hard skills instead of the buy skills or are affected because of the release of dung or (allmost) stop playing.

Lowlander and Serpenttine got the advantage of still not wasting any xp because they don't have any 200M skills (dapledo only 1 btw).

In the end I shouldn't be surprised if Serpenttine is very well compareble with Telmo for example.

Yes he/she started like 1.2 years later as Telmo for example but that's just a matter of time.

I notice that most high lvl players also just +- rush the buyebles after maxing and after that go on with slayer and the handfull of players who don't are barely named nowadays but they still aren't really behind on the timeschedule, they are just behind in xp (except for suomi).

[Squisher_33]

guess suomi isnt gonna do dung now

[Yay0siris]

to people saying suomi got his skills in 2.5 years.. i'm pretty sure suomi has been a top player since rsc (2004) because i remember seeing his name in the HS back when i played rsc and I think he was top21 in fishing even back then.

 

His account are from classic times yes, but the fact is that he did get 200M flet, 200M agil, 200M mining, 200M smith, 200M cook, 200M fishing and almost 200M mage in 2.5 years (actualy more like 2 years 3 months or so). He had no over xp's that matters in those skills.

 

My point is he has been an active player since rsc. Of course it would be impossible to get 200M exp in a skill in rsc, let alone maxing every skill +200M experience. It was an incredible achievement to have max combat, let alone max 99's in rsc. To my knowledge, suomi had good stats in rsc, proving he would be a worthy opponent in this sort of race. I commend him for playing runescape for so long and having the patience to stay at the top of the highscores for so long (xp wise). If anyone will max, I think it will be suomi. I would have said it years ago, and a few years ago, the majority of the top21 were probably on tutorial island.

[langer]

Interesting numbers Deyan. It really shows how the highscore and XP rates exploded in the last 3 years. I mean look at Zarfot, 1,3B xp in 16 months, telmo has the same XP in 17 months. We are talking the XP of the highscore legend Zezima (2001-2008) in less than a year and a half!

 

I don't doubt for a second someone will max out all skills with rates like these that are bound to grow with time.

[Squisher_33]

if suomi got some cash he could do 1b xp in a matter of 3 months (craft prayer herblore construction, and maybe the 5th could be fming mages or just grind thieving)

[Aribiterspar]

Interesting numbers Deyan. It really shows how the highscore and XP rates exploded in the last 3 years. I mean look at Zarfot, 1,3B xp in 16 months, telmo has the same XP in 17 months. We are talking the XP of the highscore legend Zezima (2001-2008) in less than a year and a half!

 

I don't doubt for a second someone will max out all skills with rates like these that are bound to grow with time.

 

 

just sayin skills werent nearly as fast when zez did it also buyables were done alot in that time at least in zars case con craft herb were a couple of them were also a lot slower in zezes day. not saying 1 is better then the other or putting down zar just sayin that 1.3b xp now isnt same as it was then

[langer]

Interesting numbers Deyan. It really shows how the highscore and XP rates exploded in the last 3 years. I mean look at Zarfot, 1,3B xp in 16 months, telmo has the same XP in 17 months. We are talking the XP of the highscore legend Zezima (2001-2008) in less than a year and a half!

 

I don't doubt for a second someone will max out all skills with rates like these that are bound to grow with time.

 

 

just sayin skills werent nearly as fast when zez did it also buyables were done alot in that time at least in zars case con craft herb were a couple of them were also a lot slower in zezes day. not saying 1 is better then the other or putting down zar just sayin that 1.3b xp now isnt same as it was then

 

That's what I was saying by XP rates. Things have changed a lot.

[zhowzurfer]

it would be a mind blowing cut scene to see both, drumgun and suomi having unlimtted cash to max out buyables, i guess they will do 400m per month lol, once the time has come and we must be patient, once suomi has maxed out all non buyables, slayer and finished up runecrafting, there will be a year when suomi destroys all buyables that would mean: 200m prayer 200m herblore 200m crafting 200m construction 200m in like 2 -3 months. I really hope by then he will have overthought merching and will have enough cash from his donations to make those billions really needed.

 

I think suomi and jebrim are friends right? so jebrim you know him and you know a lot about merching, and you have stated he fears the risks and actually isnt against it due seeing merching as exploiting a bug (sry but that statement of drumgun was ridiculous), why wouldnt you teach him how to merch or tell him what to flip or invest? I would suggest making a 'Suomi' merch clan where you manipulate very uncommon items, let suomi buy out the stock and then a couple of maxed players should rebuy and rebuy until the item get x4 x10 or more of its ground price. if you pick leather vambs like i did, you can raise it by more than 8x within a month guess how easy money transferring would be then. No donations needed, he just takes his 300mil he has now and makes 2,4 bil every month.

 

You seriously suggest something like that to suomi, jebrim. His donation system gets him 300 m per year, an own price manipulation clan which only supports his idea of getting 200m maxed out, could get him more than 20 bil a year and thats nowhere near unrealistic, if you know anything. all you need for this is a bunch of rich people who support his idea. I guess you only need 50 bil investments. and in your position you should find 50.

[Golvellius]

Serpent had ? 0M xp at 2007 (12.8M xp at 24 april 2008 maxed at 434M xp on 6 march 2010)

Telmomr had 62M xp at 16 oktober 2007 (maxed at 389M xp on 15 juni 2009, had 1446M xp on 15 juni 2010)

Timlhye had 137M xp at 15 oktober 2007 (maxed at 251M xp on 27 april 2008, had 1026M xp on 27 april 2009)

Dapledo had 164M xp at 30 oktober 2007 (maxed at 502M xp on 15 febru 2009, had 999M xp on 15 febru 2010)

suomi had 166M xp at 16 oktober 2007 (Never maxed...)

Drumgun had 184M xp at 15 oktober 2007 (ttllvl 2343 840M xp on 10 may 2009, had total 2347 and 1647M on 10 may 2010)

Zarfot had 184M xp at 14 oktober 2007 (maxed at 427M xp on 25 juli 2008, had 1051M xp on 25 juli 2009, had 2033M xp on 25 juli 2010)

Lowland had 200M xp at 24 oktober 2007 (never really maxed, hard to track)

Jdlcrox had 238M xp at 14 oktober 2007 (maxed at 361M xp on 15 may 2008, had 861M xp on 15 may 2009, had 1834M xp on 15 may 2010)

Delta 81 had 330M xp at 15 oktober 2007 (maxed at 428M xp on 13 march 2008, had 1044M xp on 13 march 2009, had 1129M xp on 13 march 2010)

Skiller had 370M xp at 17 oktober 2007 (maxed at 490M xp on 20 april 2008, had 1261M xp on 20 april 2009, had 1993M xp on 20 april 2010)

Gertjrs had 419M xp at 11 oktober 2007 (maxed at 645M xp on 15 march 2008, had 1510M xp on 15 march 2009)

Kingduf had 516M xp at 16 oktober 2007 (maxed at 695M xp on 13 febru 2008, had 1141M xp on 13 febru 2009, had 1467M xp on 13 febru 2010)

Zezima had 1102M xp at 17 oktober 2007

 

Some are hard to compare because they continue to train when they are not maxed yet or train hard skills instead of the buy skills or are affected because of the release of dung or (allmost) stop playing.

Lowlander and Serpenttine got the advantage of still not wasting any xp because they don't have any 200M skills (dapledo only 1 btw).

In the end I shouldn't be surprised if Serpenttine is very well compareble with Telmo for example.

Yes he/she started like 1.2 years later as Telmo for example but that's just a matter of time.

I notice that most high lvl players also just +- rush the buyebles after maxing and after that go on with slayer and the handfull of players who don't are barely named nowadays but they still aren't really behind on the timeschedule, they are just behind in xp (except for suomi).

 

Cute.

I had 5 million xp less than jdlcrox in 2007 and now its like 1.5 billion. Lol...

[Aribiterspar]

it would be a mind blowing cut scene to see both, drumgun and suomi having unlimtted cash to max out buyables, i guess they will do 400m per month lol, once the time has come and we must be patient, once suomi has maxed out all non buyables, slayer and finished up runecrafting, there will be a year when suomi destroys all buyables that would mean: 200m prayer 200m herblore 200m crafting 200m construction 200m in like 2 -3 months. I really hope by then he will have overthought merching and will have enough cash from his donations to make those billions really needed.

 

I think suomi and jebrim are friends right? so jebrim you know him and you know a lot about merching, and you have stated he fears the risks and actually isnt against it due seeing merching as exploiting a bug (sry but that statement of drumgun was ridiculous), why wouldnt you teach him how to merch or tell him what to flip or invest? I would suggest making a 'Suomi' merch clan where you manipulate very uncommon items, let suomi buy out the stock and then a couple of maxed players should rebuy and rebuy until the item get x4 x10 or more of its ground price. if you pick leather vambs like i did, you can raise it by more than 8x within a month guess how easy money transferring would be then. No donations needed, he just takes his 300mil he has now and makes 2,4 bil every month.

 

You seriously suggest something like that to suomi, jebrim. His donation system gets him 300 m per year, an own price manipulation clan which only supports his idea of getting 200m maxed out, could get him more than 20 bil a year and thats nowhere near unrealistic, if you know anything. all you need for this is a bunch of rich people who support his idea. I guess you only need 50 bil investments. and in your position you should find 50.

 

 

in reality though when suomi does buyables it will be the cheap way lol dont expect any extra ordinary records

[zhowzurfer]

it would be a mind blowing cut scene to see both, drumgun and suomi having unlimtted cash to max out buyables, i guess they will do 400m per month lol, once the time has come and we must be patient, once suomi has maxed out all non buyables, slayer and finished up runecrafting, there will be a year when suomi destroys all buyables that would mean: 200m prayer 200m herblore 200m crafting 200m construction 200m in like 2 -3 months. I really hope by then he will have overthought merching and will have enough cash from his donations to make those billions really needed.

 

I think suomi and jebrim are friends right? so jebrim you know him and you know a lot about merching, and you have stated he fears the risks and actually isnt against it due seeing merching as exploiting a bug (sry but that statement of drumgun was ridiculous), why wouldnt you teach him how to merch or tell him what to flip or invest? I would suggest making a 'Suomi' merch clan where you manipulate very uncommon items, let suomi buy out the stock and then a couple of maxed players should rebuy and rebuy until the item get x4 x10 or more of its ground price. if you pick leather vambs like i did, you can raise it by more than 8x within a month guess how easy money transferring would be then. No donations needed, he just takes his 300mil he has now and makes 2,4 bil every month.

 

You seriously suggest something like that to suomi, jebrim. His donation system gets him 300 m per year, an own price manipulation clan which only supports his idea of getting 200m maxed out, could get him more than 20 bil a year and thats nowhere near unrealistic, if you know anything. all you need for this is a bunch of rich people who support his idea. I guess you only need 50 bil investments. and in your position you should find 50.

 

 

in reality though when suomi does buyables it will be the cheap way lol dont expect any extra ordinary records

 

im totally serious about my post, why shouldnt this be considered. I see no negative aspects here. All participants are mature enough to not dump early, so everybody could make a decent profit. Like the other experienced merch clans the only difference is, that one time the stock was bought out before the merch started. You probably need to wait 2 to 5 days to start the merch after suomi has bought his part. This is a 100% non-risky way for sumoi to make his billions. He does not lose any time organizing ge offers. He buys once and sells once.

 

Correct me if i am wrong but currently suomi has about 500 mil or? technically he could get his 35 bil to max all skills with the fastest methods, in under a year with this method. I guess it will turn out slower but he will get everything set in 2 years at maximum, by then he should not have maxed all non buyable skills.

[Yay0siris]

i don't think it would be the same if suomi merched.

[Sir_Kurity]

Yea i don't get that.

 

How can you not merch if you play as seriously as he does.

[Aribiterspar]

woot inbe4 langer ^_^

 

Tickle me telmo oops i mean telmomarques 2b xp

[Xensure]

woot inbe4 langer ^_^

 

Tickle me telmo oops i mean telmomarques 2b xp

 

How the [bleep] are you actually supposed to pronounce his name? Tell-mo Marks? Tell-mo Mar-case? Tel-om-ar-case? Some combination there of?

 

On topic: With that nice chunk of Herb and Prayer xp he got after 200m dungeon, he will probably be the first to 9 200m skills. Assuming he has all of herb and prayer banked and Drumgun hasn't built up enough cash yet to start in on the buyables.

[Kekek]

woot inbe4 langer ^_^

 

Tickle me telmo oops i mean telmomarques 2b xp

 

How the [bleep] are you actually supposed to pronounce his name? Tell-mo Marks? Tell-mo Mar-case? Tel-om-ar-case? Some combination there of?

 

On topic: With that nice chunk of Herb and Prayer xp he got after 200m dungeon, he will probably be the first to 9 200m skills. Assuming he has all of herb and prayer banked and Drumgun hasn't built up enough cash yet to start in on the buyables.

He is Portuguese, so it should be almost like tell-mo-mark-case.