200M in all Skills

[deyan2]

woot inbe4 langer ^_^

 

Tickle me telmo oops i mean telmomarques 2b xp

And 700K xp left between Telmo and Elvis :P!

[tuggernongy]

and Telmomarques has taken top spot, at least for now. Should be interesting to watch. :)

[Obtaurian]

I don't really find the battle for "#1" very exciting, personally, as we all know that Telmo and Elvis are pretty far behind Skiller, Zarfot, etc.

[zhowzurfer]

I don't really find the battle for "#1" very exciting, personally, as we all know that Telmo and Elvis are pretty far behind Skiller, Zarfot, etc.

both are able to join the competition. rather than jdelacroix at the moment. if telmo and elvis contínue their play time on other skills, non buyables they would still gain on zarfot and skiller big terms. and they still dont have all buyables maxed. 8 months ago the difference was 600 mil. now its 350 mil (to zarfot).

 

they simply play way more than he does.

[Aylarliez]

To zshow:

 

Whos gonna buy suomi's junk then, when the item reaches top price and start crashing?

 

Edit: also the money needed for all buyables 200M with max methods would be like 20B only?

 

6B herb (ovls)

5B pray (frosts)

3B cons (mahogany)

3B crafting (diamonds)

3-4B farming (mage, palm)

 

=20-21B

[Jebrim]

it would be a mind blowing cut scene to see both, drumgun and suomi having unlimtted cash to max out buyables, i guess they will do 400m per month lol, once the time has come and we must be patient, once suomi has maxed out all non buyables, slayer and finished up runecrafting, there will be a year when suomi destroys all buyables that would mean: 200m prayer 200m herblore 200m crafting 200m construction 200m in like 2 -3 months. I really hope by then he will have overthought merching and will have enough cash from his donations to make those billions really needed.

 

I think suomi and jebrim are friends right? so jebrim you know him and you know a lot about merching, and you have stated he fears the risks and actually isnt against it due seeing merching as exploiting a bug (sry but that statement of drumgun was ridiculous), why wouldnt you teach him how to merch or tell him what to flip or invest? I would suggest making a 'Suomi' merch clan where you manipulate very uncommon items, let suomi buy out the stock and then a couple of maxed players should rebuy and rebuy until the item get x4 x10 or more of its ground price. if you pick leather vambs like i did, you can raise it by more than 8x within a month guess how easy money transferring would be then. No donations needed, he just takes his 300mil he has now and makes 2,4 bil every month.

 

You seriously suggest something like that to suomi, jebrim. His donation system gets him 300 m per year, an own price manipulation clan which only supports his idea of getting 200m maxed out, could get him more than 20 bil a year and thats nowhere near unrealistic, if you know anything. all you need for this is a bunch of rich people who support his idea. I guess you only need 50 bil investments. and in your position you should find 50.

Real merching is not manipulating prices. Suomi makes more money from donations than you think and doing your stated method would still incur risks. Idr mentioning anything about bug abuse either. He refuses to merch because there are risks involved and his donation method has similar profits, if only over a longer period of time. If other people want to do a more meaningful donation, donate him an actively rising partyhat for GE price.

[zhowzurfer]

it would be a mind blowing cut scene to see both, drumgun and suomi having unlimtted cash to max out buyables, i guess they will do 400m per month lol, once the time has come and we must be patient, once suomi has maxed out all non buyables, slayer and finished up runecrafting, there will be a year when suomi destroys all buyables that would mean: 200m prayer 200m herblore 200m crafting 200m construction 200m in like 2 -3 months. I really hope by then he will have overthought merching and will have enough cash from his donations to make those billions really needed.

 

I think suomi and jebrim are friends right? so jebrim you know him and you know a lot about merching, and you have stated he fears the risks and actually isnt against it due seeing merching as exploiting a bug (sry but that statement of drumgun was ridiculous), why wouldnt you teach him how to merch or tell him what to flip or invest? I would suggest making a 'Suomi' merch clan where you manipulate very uncommon items, let suomi buy out the stock and then a couple of maxed players should rebuy and rebuy until the item get x4 x10 or more of its ground price. if you pick leather vambs like i did, you can raise it by more than 8x within a month guess how easy money transferring would be then. No donations needed, he just takes his 300mil he has now and makes 2,4 bil every month.

 

You seriously suggest something like that to suomi, jebrim. His donation system gets him 300 m per year, an own price manipulation clan which only supports his idea of getting 200m maxed out, could get him more than 20 bil a year and thats nowhere near unrealistic, if you know anything. all you need for this is a bunch of rich people who support his idea. I guess you only need 50 bil investments. and in your position you should find 50.

Real merching is not manipulating prices. Suomi makes more money from donations than you think and doing your stated method would still incur risks. Idr mentioning anything about bug abuse either. He refuses to merch because there are risks involved and his donation method has similar profits, if only over a longer period of time. If other people want to do a more meaningful donation, donate him an actively rising partyhat for GE price.

 

yes i didnt know about the exact maxing out prices for the most expensive methods. 21 bil is even easier.

 

jebrim, i know you said something about suomi fearing the risk, and so did you now. price manipulation is the most effective method to get money if you know what you are doing, there is no doubt at all, whether it is real merching we dont care. you are speaking of him getting his money and donations and so on but actually if he wants to do the most effective method then he needs the money. he deserves to bury fdb he deserves to make overloads and to burn magic tree logs.

 

you are absolutely correct about donating rising items, its effective but since jagex nerfes prices a partyhat will never come up to his values, i doubt it will double over the next year. and money transferring wont work like this too. or it would take ages to tell him to buy botted items for minimum and selling them for the trade price in a normal trade. rather sell him slings or something which will rise for ages now.

 

if you raise common items which have no bot influence arent highly traded in the grand exchange but are still traded quite much, you can leave the whole stock of an item for 1 gp over med price and it will get bought out. since you dont have any competition and your offers are in first place, there is no term like dumping. there wont be a dump you will continuely sell the whole stock away and then it will fall again due to other people selling theirs and so on. you dont let the graph crash instantly otherwise you would betray the clan members and they would lose their money. suomi who sells his stock at max price before the final limit will have nothing to do with what happens after. he has no risk only the others have one which is at minimum when manipulating the right item.

 

im not talking about what chessy018 did with santa hats. there is no real stock for santa hats as no new will enter the game.. im not talking about making a 25 mil item 110 mil in a year.. im talking about items around 5-50 gp which get tenfolded or even more in under a month. open your mind guys just to give you an example on a merch i and some merch clans did some weeks ago:

http://services.runescape.com/m=itemdb_rs/Amulet_of_accuracy/viewitem.ws?obj=1478&scale=2

 

that was no dump there, jagex deleted the price overnight (comparable to climbing boots at the opposite) i tripled my invested cash in that merch btw (i only invested 700mil) and guess suomi invest 500 mil without rebuying, then he will get out 5 bil of it in a month.

 

only jagex can stop us, guys, they can set caps and stop merches..

we can tenfold items in a month and usually jagex wont do anything about such merches. we wanted to get the amulet to 130k and it would have been easily possible. suomi isnt included in such a merch, he just buys out the stock before the actual merch starts. then sells once the price got decent, and the merch clan then decides whether to continue the manipulation and when to stop.

 

all you guys need is a ground potential of around 30-50 bil, and no offence i know 15 people on my own who have over 5 bil (you guys never heard of and never will, as they arent famous for xps) not including me at this point, so i guess jebrim you should know a lot more. and of those guys, if you arent the one, there will be one mastermind who overlooks and checks items and picks the right ones.

 

afterall i can only say, price manipulation isnt hard, its very easy, no offence in the first place but just think of, how a little narrow-minded young girl who has no clue about the real life economy managed to become that rich, although chessy018's idea is more about scamming, but since you have read till this point you know my suggestion has nothing to do with scamming.

 

jebrim as long as you cant ensure me that suomi is getting his 21 bil needed once he maxes out all non buyables, i highly suggest you to tell him about such ideas, they are fool proof and ridiculously easy to convert. you dont need to tenfold items, if that sounds unrealistic to you guys (which it isnt and never will be) but x3 x4 would do a lot to suomi, since 1 bil wont equal 4 bil.

 

 

 

 

in this thread we have literally discussed every skill and its most effective method, but when it comes to merching, all you guys do is flip merching whips and other useless stuff for maybe 200 mil a month. you not only waste a lot of time at the ge but you also ignore the best moneymaking method in runescape. price manipulation, i hope, if you dont agree on my idea, you still agree on that, because thats a fact.

 

didnt read my post, and im not native so hf with my ugly grammar and spelling mistakes =)

[deyan2]

I don't really find the battle for "#1" very exciting, personally, as we all know that Telmo and Elvis are pretty far behind Skiller, Zarfot, etc.

 

Well if you only look at total xp it would be a really really slow battle...

I look at many battles in between, otherwise the first tiny bit exiting moment will come around March or so and is also way to predicteble to be anything close near exiting actually.

Imo, the best player of RS is the player who has been rank 1 for the longest amount of time in days/hours, so yes atm Telmo is better as Zarfot is and yes in that way Zezima is still the best (with about a 1000 days or so?) ;).

Same thing for F2p, I'm just not really sure who it is there, but probably Mendark 9 (so not Syzygy, S diamant y, Water (is nat), or El popo1 or...).

I wonder what happened to that person, he went from 100K rc xp a day to stop playing RS within 1 day... So I'm affraid he's not alive any more.

Anyway, soon or later El popo1 will overtake him, but yes, atm I see Mendark 9 as a better RS player, just at a diffrend time.

[Aylarliez]

Why would merchers buy 5b worth of suomi's item if they know that item is going to crash after that? Just loaning ur statement where u said he could sell just before crash.

[bedman]

Zhowsurfer, you claim the price manipulation is the best way to make money, but for anyone but SUOMI, who would sell early, you would have to get rid of 1B+ of junk. I'd rather take 200m a month, than getting involved in all this tedious junk trading.

[zhowzurfer]

Why would merchers buy 5b worth of suomi's item if they know that item is going to crash after that? Just loaning ur statement where u said he could sell just before crash.

 

i think i have mentioned it. in this sort of merch there is no dump. the item wont crash as long as the merch clan dominates the stock. all members (i mean all not only 95%...) are then selling their stocks over med price. people have no chance to surpass the vast majority of the item regulations. im not speaking of rune essence, where every hour a botter sells 100k pure essence for min. you have no competitions in the merches i have mentioned, it requires a decent item choice.

 

Maybe if i give you an example at rares. If somebody sells a half wine jug via ge the price gets updated immediately after 1 (concerning its 15 bil street price), if the person who bought it, sells his it will rise again, and complete those processes again and again ... thats how you manage to pull of changes that quickly. If you dominate the market of amulet of defence, the recent stocks have been bought out and bought out until you have reached a cap of jagex or decide to stop. you then have a lot of stocks which are usually traded within a year in your hand. nobody has that much ammys of defence, although there might be 10k sold for minimum each day, that has no influence at the items fluctuations as you the clan will always sell way more than the same on the other side of the medium price. this results in a very low rise every day or the item will get locked at its price. thats the best thing as your offers have priority, as i said you will not merch rune essence, because you tend to place offers below medium at first. if you want an amulet of defence though and you dont get it instantly for 7.4k (that would be a merch end) you will not care to set it to max price then buying for 7.6k and then another amulet of defence will be bought out of the clans stock. imagine that happening every split of a second.

 

the reason why this works is, that nobody needs to buy 100k amulet of defence for minimum as the item is useless if you have it already. the price starts to faill again if the merch clans stock vanished means bought out, and people tend to sell their ammys for lowest, after looting in pvp or something else, i hope you understand this

 

the reasons why a lot of clans fail at this is because they are mass clans with a lot of early dumpers (there is a difference between 10 trusted people with 10 bil each, and 100000 random people with 100k each, no selling for minimum (selling below medium price) will not cause a downfall of an item. the item wont crash until the last merchers amulet of defence has been sold for 7,520k

[iamsomebody1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjIYSMxHlHw

 

Zarfot quit apparently :/

[pyl]

War in hiscores? It seems like Telmomarques and Elvis log out every 15-30 minutes to update the scores and right now Telmomarques wins by 56k! It is prayer vs herblore time.

 

1 Telmomarques 2,496 2,007,576,834

2 Elvis 2,496 2,007,520,076

[Teamed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjIYSMxHlHw

 

Zarfot quit apparently :/

What..the.. GL with life, Zar. :)

Good decision.

[langer]

Zarfot quit apparently :/

 

Good luck to your goals outside the game Zarfot! Early congratulations to Jdelacroix for rank 1 overall.

[Obtaurian]

Was just about to post the video. My favorite player . . . quitting. How can I go on?

 

//wrists

[langer]

One day at a time...one day at a time. (imagine a robotic voice from someone who has smoked too many cigarettes during the vietnam war....now guess who I'm refering to!)

[Yay0siris]

i don't think zarfot quit.. that video looks really sarcastic.

[Yay0siris]

not going to lie, zarfots videos are frigging hilarious!

[Paraphiliac]

200 meters all skills :lol:

 

Sad to see Zarfot go.

[Trey]

There was sarcasm in the video but I think its genuine.

 

He's my favorite maxed player and I hope he has fun playing Cataclysm.

[Aribiterspar]

There was sarcasm in the video but I think its genuine.

 

He's my favorite maxed player and I hope he has fun playing Cataclysm.

 

seems genuine so far, havent seen em at all today neither have rest of us i dont think + his tracker is 0 xp gain today

[Sir_Kurity]

Should have at least taken up high risk pking before he decided to quit.

[FirenLazah]

Did he actually quit? I couldn't tell from the sarcasm in the video

[iamsomebody1]

Should have at least taken up high risk pking before he decided to quit.

 

Why kill, when you can skill?