The F2P General Discussion Thread

[LordAdib]

So how are the "more conservative" F2P purists among us approaching this update? Is a P2P skill still a P2P skill regardless of whether it's been partially opened up to F2P, meaning we shouldn't even get level 5 in those stats (or visit Burthorpe & Taverley and unlock their attendant music tracks)? Or are we looking at the whole thing with more latitude: anything at all that's opened up to F2P is ours, including former P2P-only opportunities, and we should thus make use of them?

[Kaida23]

Personally, I'm of a mind that if it's available on a free world and without buying membershiop, then it's F2P and fair game. Today's update is just an expansion of what that used to entail.

[Zantareous]

On principle, I still see them as P2P skills despite the ability for us to train them, and as such personally wouldn't.

 

It's hard. We've never encountered something quite like this, nothing to compare it to. A definite gray area....

[Ammako]

I don't really see why anyone should restrict themselves from training these skills up to Lv. 5, for the same reasons as Kaida.

The first five levels are F2P content, available using method available to F2P players. I don't see the issue.

[Water Tablet]

People are so like the Amish, anti p2p too much, but can't see what F2P has given for us.

[mackenzie14]

It's somewhat similar situation like in 2005, when addy arrows and stuff was made from p2p to f2p (although then 100% of us didn't even think over ignoring these like nowadays) . Just a update for f2p also, we have become so afraid of updates due to the rarity of these events.

[Piu]

Magic shortbows were previously P2P, should you prohibit their use as well?

[mackenzie14]

No, that was the point of my post. Although I have not used it yet.

[Mister Raven]

We have to level those skills up to five, 'cause now it IS free to play. I did level up several of them :)

Oh and how I should get wolf bones if wolfs doesn't drop them to me? They should give us wolf bones too if they already gave spirit wolfs.

[Kaida23]

You can buy wolf bones from the summoning tutor.

[Fire_Hawk154]

You can buy wolf bones from the summoning tutor.

 

Last time I checked the tutor had 1 for free but had 0 for sale. :unsure:

[Kaida23]

Probably sold out. Or maybe I'm thinking of the shards.

[Ammako]

Probably sold out. Or maybe I'm thinking of the shards.

Stores stopped having public stock a while ago.

[Piu]

Since spirit shards are now F2P, I'd like to give a quick tip that buying them for 24ea on the G.E. nets a nice 1m profit per 2 weeks or so. :)

 

Pocket money if you have some cash just idling around.

[Kaida23]

Pro tip: After completing the Death Plateau quest, if you talk to Denulth again he will ask you to bring supplies to the archers on the ridge. When you do, the Ambush Commander will give you three experience lamps that give 180xp each. Then, just home tele back to Burthorpe and repeat. This can be done 5 times and makes getting the mems skills to level 5 a breeze. :thumbup:

 

But don't use them on Agility. Just going through the cave will take care of that.

[Ammako]

Very good idea! I'll do that to get Construction and Farming to 5.

[Miss Lioness]

Very good idea! I'll do that to get Construction and Farming to 5.

 

As far as I know Construction is still locked...

[Ammako]

Very good idea! I'll do that to get Construction and Farming to 5.

 

As far as I know Construction is still locked...

 

It is possible for free players to get Construction up to level 5 (I've done it), you just have to be creative. ;)

[Indigo_Aqua]

Since spirit shards are now F2P, I'd like to give a quick tip that buying them for 24ea on the G.E. nets a nice 1m profit per 2 weeks or so. :)

 

Pocket money if you have some cash just idling around.

Sorry, but I don't understand how this makes money? If you bought them off the G.E, who do you sell them to?

[Octarine]

Since spirit shards are now F2P, I'd like to give a quick tip that buying them for 24ea on the G.E. nets a nice 1m profit per 2 weeks or so. :)

 

Pocket money if you have some cash just idling around.

Sorry, but I don't understand how this makes money? If you bought them off the G.E, who do you sell them to?

The summon tutor/other summon shops buy them from the player for 25 ea :)

[Kaida23]

As far as I know Construction is still locked...

It is possible for free players to get Construction up to level 5 (I've done it), you just have to be creative.

 

Proof. ;)

 

It's just training through use of the skill that's locked.

[hic2482w]

After the completion of Death Plateau, are DOric and Boric tasks now available to F2P? :P

[Lord Slayas]

So how are the "more conservative" F2P purists among us approaching this update? Is a P2P skill still a P2P skill regardless of whether it's been partially opened up to F2P, meaning we shouldn't even get level 5 in those stats (or visit Burthorpe & Taverley and unlock their attendant music tracks)? Or are we looking at the whole thing with more latitude: anything at all that's opened up to F2P is ours, including former P2P-only opportunities, and we should thus make use of them?

 

I'd say it really is mostly a personal choice at this point. The trend seems to be most of the higher level / older players refusing to touch them, and most of the lower level / newer players training them (with exceptions on both sides of course).

 

It would really be up to your own preference whether to train them or not.

[slickmovedude]

So, it's been a while since I've posted here (with a similarly named account that I lost), but I've been stalking this thread for a few years.

 

As for parts of p2p becoming f2p, I think that if it's there, you may as well use it. So far, I've found one useful(ish) training place. If you use the agility shortcut by the falador west bank, and head south a bit, you'll find a mine with 3 iron rocks (and 2 coal). Good for mining and superheating (I haven't tried either yet).

 

Also, a while ago, I went from 75-80 fishing using salmon and trout. During this time EoC was introduced, but I also took down the number of fish I had before I started training, EoC and after I got 80 fishing. I found that that I caught more salmon after EoC was introduced, whether that was due to EoC or my fishing level increasing.

But long story short, the ratio I found for trout to salmon was about 34:25 (or 1.36) for the whole time, and about 7:5 (or to a few more digits: 1.406) after EoC/fishing level increased (not quite sure which level I was at sadly). (Note: I'm not calculating standard deviation and stuff). For those that are wondering the numbers are (trout:salmon):

beginning: 8540:6118

EoC: 10355:7501

Finish: 12729:9189

Now, this doesn't take into account urns or increasing level, which I assume has something to do with the catch ratio. But I am currently planning to get 80-85 fishing (actually I am as typing), and will be recording the numbers, and maybe even making a graph from the data (although 7 points is a tad slim for a graph relating catch ratio to level).

So if anyone would like to either see this, or help with it, that'd be great (by providing the number of fish from one level to the next). I will also being doing a study into the fishing urns (just the regular ones), and how many you need for so much xp, etc. But if someone has the exact percent for each fish (salmon and trout) that'd be great, as I'm actually curious about this.

[setelima]

I hope this helps:

 

Fishing lvl | Fishing XP | Feather# | Urn# | Trout# | Salmon#| Trout% | Salmon%

------------|------------|----------|-------|--------|--------|--------|--------

88 | 184,470 | 2,645 | 58 | 1,484 | 1,161 | 56.11% | 43.89%

89 | 264,810 | 3,889 | 75 | 2,246 | 1,643 | 57.75% | 42.25%

90 | 14,980 | 224 | 4 | 135 | 89 | 60.27% | 39.73%

91 | 82,630 | 1,173 | 27 | 649 | 524 | 55.33% | 44.67%

92 | 602,676 | 8,566 | 197 | 4,772 | 3,794 | 55.71% | 44.29%

93 | 594,460 | 8,466 | 194 | 4,758 | 3,708 | 56.20% | 43.80%

94 | 105,760 | 1,496 | 35 | 823 | 673 | 55.01% | 44.99%

95 | 831,100 | 11,804 | 273 | 6,584 | 5,220 | 55.78% | 44.22%

96 | 846,290 | 12,003 | 280 | 6,696 | 5,307 | 55.79% | 44.21%

------------|------------|----------|-------|--------|--------|--------|--------

Total | 3,527,176 | 50,266 | 1,143 | 28,147 | 22,119 | 56.00% | 44.00%

 

EoC drop fishing. Trout and salmon numbers are calculated from fishing xp, feathers (fish total), and urns.

 

I think you have good fishing luck :)