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For the autotyping I completely agree, jagex can not do much about it and at the ge it is becoming a mess with all the merching clan advertising.


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I dont see the huge fuss about autotypers, just always have your public chat on "hide" and eventually a pmod will mute them anyways.


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I dont see the huge fuss about autotypers, just always have your public chat on "hide" and eventually a pmod will mute them anyways.

 

Obviously didn't read the article.


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auto-typing: mute because of spam, not because they use an auto-typer. auto-typers are immaterial, and are perfectly acceptable if you are not spamming.

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Personally if I where with jagex I'd add a spam filter to chat, and warn players that if they spam a certain amount of lines per minute that it will result in a temporary chat mute. Nothing large, but like even a 30 minute auto mute would help in solving a lot of these issues.


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Article 1: Yeah, autotypers can get annoying, but I've just learned to live with them. In the recent Q&A, a Jmod did say they were going to try to stop merching clans, which would stop most of the autotyping at the ge then.

 

Article 2: I did notice the ad too when I logged on right after the update (and downtime). I'm P2P though so It didn't really affect me. I'm sure some people dislike it, though. (Like the author of the article)

 

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2nd one sounded like typical F2P whinning. "AMG we see Members advertising [email protected][email protected]!"

 

Who gives a crap if you dislike it? You are playing for free, the least you should expect is a bit of advertisement.


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but don't you need to click something to see the advert?

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auto-typing: mute because of spam, not because they use an auto-typer. auto-typers are immaterial, and are perfectly acceptable if you are not spamming.

It's not that simple. The rules state that you can not report someone for 'game related spam'. So if I say "b sale" 50 times per minute, you are not 'allowed' to report me.

As for them being acceptable, The rule is not having ANY third party software that directly acts on the game. I would say that a program that types for you works on the game. Why would it be acceptable that someone is too lazy to play the game them selves to choose to cheat?

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Ad in disguise: I don't really see how this affects players at all. Surely it is advertising, but it's not a full video advertisement and as such, I don't care. As long as it doesn't interrupt or affect gameplay, players shouldn't complain. If they are, they're complaining for the sake of complaining.

 

Auto-typing: I agree. Not much you can do.


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I agree with the second article, I dislike the advertisement feeling of the login page now. As a member I don't want to see how Members has an 'Epic' sized world or 'Creature Companions'. Also, I think in general it's a poor thing. It's going against the principles that MMG set out last year. He said he didn't want to make things geared towards advertising members but then he slaps on a huge ad on the login page...


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1st article: While the autotyping bots are annoying, they're ultimately only as harmful as people allow them to be. A bot that gathers resources for sale or effortlessly grinds a skill is detrimental to legitimate players who've worked for their levels and wealth. An autotyper bot is no more harmful than a human with good typing skills.

If Jagex were to address the problem of price-manipulation clans, I'd prefer them to do it by addressing the price-manipulation directly. Good luck to 'em trying that, though.

 

2nd article: As the article says, Jagex got rid of the forced video adverts, and they got rid of the in-game adverts for members' content (even though it's claimed that the Gnomecopters were genuinely effective), and they've even removed quite a lot of members' options that f2p used to see and click on. I think, in return for all this, we can jolly well put up with seeing that advert on the way into the game. The website's always had stuff to encourage newbies to subscribe, and it makes little practical difference whether the "advert" is on the website or in the lobby.

The lobby's graphical style is a bit off-putting, but that's a separate whinge.

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To the first article: It seems like Jagex says in every single QnA that they really need to do something about the advertisements. But they never do, they have been talking about it for several months...

 

The second article: I love the lobby/new login system. The advertisement doesn't bother me much, even when I was F2P (I just got members back last week).


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2nd one sounded like typical F2P whinning. "AMG we see Members advertising [email protected][email protected]!"

 

Who gives a crap if you dislike it? You are playing for free, the least you should expect is a bit of advertisement.

But doesn't it annoy you, a member, that every single time you log in, you also have to go past this annoying advert.

 

Personally, I support the lobby, not so much the "advertisement" before that, but hasn't really bothered me that much.

 

My method of avoiding auto-typers: Skill worlds. I have yet to seen any of the annoying auto-typers advertising the merch (price manipulation) clans on there.

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auto-typing: mute because of spam, not because they use an auto-typer. auto-typers are immaterial, and are perfectly acceptable if you are not spamming.

It's not that simple. The rules state that you can not report someone for 'game related spam'. So if I say "b sale" 50 times per minute, you are not 'allowed' to report me.

As for them being acceptable, The rule is not having ANY third party software that directly acts on the game. I would say that a program that types for you works on the game. Why would it be acceptable that someone is too lazy to play the game them selves to choose to cheat?

 

then i disagree with the rules. It makes no difference to me if you use a "spoken word to text" program to post on the tip.it forums, or chat ingame: it's none of my business and doesn't make a difference to me.

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First article: I turn my chat to friends when I'm at the GE - sorted.

 

Second article: Life is too short for me to get stressed about such minor matters.


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The GE, and sometimes lumbrige autotypers are getting to be ridiculous, any decent PMOD with half a brain should be able to tell the difference between a level 3 spambot for a merch clan, and somebodt trying to run their own bank sale.

 

This abuse needs to be squashed, pronto!

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The whole deal with autotypers doesnt really bother me. Who cares if your chat bar disappears faster? I just put them in my ignore box. Then it's perfectly fine. If anything there is one or two new autotypers every week. Atleast that's what I have noticed.

 

The whole deal with ads is stupid. I don't care if they are there or not. They should be there and people shouldnt whine about it. When I log in, I click log in, and don't even look at the ad. It's there for five seconds. The five seconds it takes you to move your mouse to the log in button.


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Once again, the first article was definitely NOT edited by anyone, as there are a few glaring mistakes that could not possibly be overlooked by anyone with some semblance of an education. While it would be nice if the writers could proofread and correct their own mistakes as much as possible before submission, it's ultimately the editor's job to make sure that NOTHING is posted without being thoroughly checked for errors.


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This quote is from the first paragraph of the 1st article.

But not only have a certain type of macros grow exponentially since the introduction of the Grand Exchange,they have also become near undetectable and therefore unbannable.

I think this sentence should be "Not only has a certain type of macros grown exponentially [sic] the Grand Exchange, they have also become near undetectable and unbannable."

</end grammar nazi>

 

I support the 2nd article. I am a paying member and the advert irks me.


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Article about macros:

 

If you go on F2P and do normal F2P actions, you can see sooooo many bots, it isn't even funny. The autotyper is clearly the most common, but that's not a real bot. The only thing keeping that character from logging out is the constant typing program. I see bots mining, killing hill giants, straight training, you name it, they are probably doing it. At least that's the case on F2P. For the most part, I've seen a lot of the bots to be male avatars, with black hair and/or black pants. But besides those common features (which not all bots have), they are literally undetectable. And sometimes, even then they have a human playing for them, that or they're programmed so well, that they react differently to each situation! It's not fair. It's not right. And Jagex isn't doing anything about it.


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Thanks for the feedback from everyone...

 

Yes they are annoying, but the greater shock and annoyance is that Jagex is virtually powerless against upholding one of their major rules. And that is the key issue we want to discuss here.

 

Once again, the first article was definitely NOT edited by anyone, as there are a few glaring mistakes that could not possibly be overlooked by anyone with some semblance of an education. While it would be nice if the writers could proofread and correct their own mistakes as much as possible before submission, it's ultimately the editor's job to make sure that NOTHING is posted without being thoroughly checked for errors.

 

I can assure you that it was edited before being posted. The editor is only human and sometimes things can slip by them. If you have some suggested edits mirror or myself will gladly take them from you.

 

This quote is from the first paragraph of the 1st article.

But not only have a certain type of macros grow exponentially since the introduction of the Grand Exchange,they have also become near undetectable and therefore unbannable.

I think this sentence should be "Not only has a certain type of macros grown exponentially [sic] the Grand Exchange, they have also become near undetectable and unbannable."

</end grammar nazi>

 

I support the 2nd article. I am a paying member and the advert irks me.

 

Thanks for catching that, not sure how I missed that.


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