Have I just detroyed a rare?

[999134]

W2 just crashed and everyone that was logged on was disconnected + couldn't log in for awhile. After I logged back in I found myself rolled back roughly 20 minutes. This only effected people on w2 and every other world stayed the same.

I had just bought a green h'ween mask but after the rollback I had the cash back + no mask.

my question is : what happens to that mask? And did I just spawn 92mil gp #-o

[Kimberly]

If it was truly a rollback, then no it wasn't destroyed.

[Lacoste]

The mask goes back to the owner?

[Kaur]

The maximum time for rollback is 15 minutes - they make copy of the game state every 15 minutes.

As for the items, it would depend on a lot of things:

Did you buy the mask from GE or from a player on w2?

Was the guy who sold the mask to GE also on w2, if he was, did he log out w2 before the crash?

Did the guy, who sold you the mask in trade, leave w2 before the crash happened?

 

Unless you know those answers(which is impossible) you can't really tell.

[@Dan3HitU]

The mask goes back to the owner?

Yes.

[999134]

I bought it on the ge and as far as i know only that world was effected.

how would it be returned to the owner if he had taken the cash out of ge, or took it and then spent it, would he get a free 92mil...?

[Hegelstad]

Interesting thought :o

[Lacoste]

I bought it on the ge and as far as i know only that world was effected.

how would it be returned to the owner if he had taken the cash out of ge, or took it and then spent it, would he get a free 92mil...?

Do you understand what the concept of a roll back is?

[elucin8er]

I bought it on the ge and as far as i know only that world was effected.

how would it be returned to the owner if he had taken the cash out of ge, or took it and then spent it, would he get a free 92mil...?

Do you understand what the concept of a roll back is?

 

Topic poster said it only affect world 2. What if the seller did it through the ge on a different world? :o

[BiJay]

I bought it on the ge and as far as i know only that world was effected.

how would it be returned to the owner if he had taken the cash out of ge, or took it and then spent it, would he get a free 92mil...?

Do you understand what the concept of a roll back is?

Do you understand what he wants to say? The roll back only happened to one world, so what happens to the other guy who sold the mask? What happens if he already spent his money? So many questions open.

[Grimy_Bunyip]

I bought it on the ge and as far as i know only that world was effected.

how would it be returned to the owner if he had taken the cash out of ge, or took it and then spent it, would he get a free 92mil...?

Do you understand what the concept of a roll back is?

Do you understand what he wants to say? The roll back only happened to one world, so what happens to the other guy who sold the mask? What happens if he already spent his money? So many questions open.

I know that in other MMOs, some gamers try to time their trades with certain isolated rollbacks with the hopes of duplicating an item.

The same logic can be applied to destroying items.

 

are you sure they applied the rollback to a single world?

[holiday]

Yes. The Runescape economy is forever out of balance now thanks to you, good job.

[Hej_Dar]

Yes. The Runescape economy is forever out of balance now thanks to you, good job.

[Tres]

since it was 1 world only and if player who you bought mask from, werent rolled back, i assume mask is no longer exist and you both have that cash only.

 

lets say you trade party hat to someone in w2 for cash, 10 min later w2 crashes and you get 12min rollback but player who you traded phat to, were changing world before w2 crashes (so his game was "saved" also in world hop)...then both of you should have phat and cash have vanished from game.

 

i guess thats the way and w2 crashing would usually cause alot of duplicated items since its world where most rares are traded....hmm i been always wondering how there is so many phats in game still..

[Everyonedies]

One of Two things happened: 1: The mask is gone unless the user who sold it on the GE was on world 2 and if that was the case he kept the mask and its still in the GE.

or thing number 2: Jagex tracks all GE transactions when one world is rolled back but others are not items already sold and turned into cash simply disappear from the game forever.

 

So in conclusion the mask is most likely gone. Jagex has taken many steps to avoid creating duplicate items.

[Mylez]

Very interesting thought, but given the fact that you received your money, and Runescape roll-backs load 15 minute old states, it's likely the H'ween mask went back to its owner through the same process your GP did.

[la la la]

The more interesting thought is that, if the situation were reversed (the seller was rolled back and you were not, keeping the mask), it may have created a rare.

[Will H]

Wait, is it even possible to roll back a single world separately from the others? What if you'd done a D&D on the world, and it rolled back?

 

I don't think I can accept that rolling back a single world is possible, there's too many potential issues. 15 minute rollbacks for the entire game, however, have often happened. In that case, the mask went back to the original owner.

[Danny_TeamDan]

I was in the middle of a pvp war and the world had to be reset, so yes it is possible to only reset one world.

[BeNiceOk]

Wait, is it even possible to roll back a single world separately from the others? What if you'd done a D&D on the world, and it rolled back?

 

I don't think I can accept that rolling back a single world is possible, there's too many potential issues. 15 minute rollbacks for the entire game, however, have often happened. In that case, the mask went back to the original owner.

 

Single world roll-backs could be possible. For your D&D example.

Say you did penguins on w2 and just traded in your points. 1 of 2 situations would arise.

 

1) You stayed logged in, and the server crashed. This rolled your account to its last known save point (sometime in the past 15 minutes) Anything you did since the last save point was lost, including your penguin point trade in. You should still have the points, and still be able to trade them in, since the server basically "lost" the data that penguin points were exchanged.

 

2) You logged out and hopped to a different world. Changing worlds transfers your data from one server to another "re-saving" its current state. If W2 got rolled back after you already left your penguin point rewards were already recorded and set-in-stone per say. The data would not have been lost, so you could not do your penguins and it would be as if nothing happened.

 

So IF w2 was reset, and the other worlds were no, the "data" of the GE purchase would be lost for the person in W2, but the person on the other world should see not difference as if nothing happened. It's highly possible that person selling the mask got his GP, the mask was destroyed, and you gained your GP back since the data of you purchasing the mask was "lost".

 

This would be my assumption anyways, because if the player on the other world took out the GP from the GE and dropped it, the game would have no way of knowing where to get the original GP from. The only way the mask could have been returned is if the mask offer was not collected by the player who sold the item on the different world.

[Tres]

Wait, is it even possible to roll back a single world separately from the others? What if you'd done a D&D on the world, and it rolled back?

 

I don't think I can accept that rolling back a single world is possible, there's too many potential issues. 15 minute rollbacks for the entire game, however, have often happened. In that case, the mask went back to the original owner.

 

its rolling back player save states that were in crashed world...it wont affect to other ppl in other worlds.

i assume player save states are stored to dedicated database server where all worlds players saves are sent....when world crashed, it could not sent them from that world so its restoring them from backup to last saved state.

 

GE dont have anything to do with single world since its same across worlds so there is separated servers for GE and as well players data could not sent from crashed world to GE servers...your ge offers will most likely update doesnt matter what world you are in or if world crashed.

 

ofcourse it would be nice to hear ppl that did trades right before rollback...seller and buyer...and when either one switched before crash....but my assumption is that if other ppl did switch and didnt get booted off, it wont have any effect to his trade or his GE buys/sells.

 

also it would be interesting to know how rollback will effect for item lending in cases you lent item, world crashed and you returned to state before lending item...most likely player who borrowed your item, still have it but wondering does it let same item to be lended again...