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12-Oct-2010 - Charm Sprite Hunting


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Does that familiarisation d&d contribute? The 3x charms thing?


No.

1) That ability effects charm DROPS. These are not drops.
2) They do NOT give charms, they give charm slices.


Have you actually tried it?


No but its pretty obvious it won't.

Why would a bonus that effects CHARM DROPS effect something that is neither charms or a drop?

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Are you kidding me? I'd feel sorry for people fighting me if they didn't know I was packing a steel titan. Summoning isn't an entirely combat-based skill, but it affects combat so drastically that it HAS to raise your combat level. Slayer, on the other hand, does not affect your combat ability outside of being able to kill more stuff than most people.


The point is that this update was anticipated to help skillers gain charms through non-combat. Their moving aggressive monsters out of the area seems to point to that anyways. It is a shame then that summoning still seems to rely on combat as the only realistic method for gaining charms. Especially given that the skill has so many non-combat applications.

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Regarding make-x no longer working with a BoB.....

To be perfectly honest, I didn't know people were training like that. It wasn't even meant to be possible for you to get items from your BOB while the offer-X loop was in progress; this may have cropped up as a bug during an engine change to the way those loops work.

I'm really sorry about that.


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That sucks, still got 9k d bones to do :angry: oh well, can live with the 2 second loss i guess.


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Realistic? As far as I'm aware, you can gather charms via sprites. It doesn't get much more realistic than that. FYI, the lava titan is the highest level familiar that a skiller really needs. There's nothing stopping skillers from camping waterfiends for their charms if sprites aren't fast enough.

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Regarding make-x no longer working with a BoB.....

To be perfectly honest, I didn't know people were training like that. It wasn't even meant to be possible for you to get items from your BOB while the offer-X loop was in progress; this may have cropped up as a bug during an engine change to the way those loops work.

I'm really sorry about that.


Basically confirms everything that I've ever thought about the developers.


So you cant make-x with BoBs anymore?

Are you [bleep]ing kidding me Jagex?
I have an assload of d bones left to do how dare you -.- :thumbdown:

"I didn't know people were training like that."
Shows how much Jagex knows about how to play their own game :wall:

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Regarding make-x no longer working with a BoB.....

To be perfectly honest, I didn't know people were training like that. It wasn't even meant to be possible for you to get items from your BOB while the offer-X loop was in progress; this may have cropped up as a bug during an engine change to the way those loops work.

I'm really sorry about that.


Basically confirms everything that I've ever thought about the developers.


So you cant make-x with BoBs anymore?

Are you [bleep]ing kidding me Jagex?
I have an assload of d bones left to do how dare you -.- :thumbdown:

"I didn't know people were training like that."
Shows how much Jagex knows about how to play their own game :wall:


Later on in that thread they mention they've been training with ectofungus... I guess that does explain a lot. :unsure:

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Realistic? As far as I'm aware, you can gather charms via sprites. It doesn't get much more realistic than that. FYI, the lava titan is the highest level familiar that a skiller really needs. There's nothing stopping skillers from camping waterfiends for their charms if sprites aren't fast enough.


Yak would be pretty useful for skillers. A skiller dosn't "need" any familiars, just like a main dosn't "need" familiars. It's just a nice addition to the game and training.

As far as gathering charms with this update it is slow and not much of a benefit to gather charms with due to that. If any skiller is serious about getting charms i doubt they will use this method.

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Regarding make-x no longer working with a BoB.....

To be perfectly honest, I didn't know people were training like that. It wasn't even meant to be possible for you to get items from your BOB while the offer-X loop was in progress; this may have cropped up as a bug during an engine change to the way those loops work.

I'm really sorry about that.


Basically confirms everything that I've ever thought about the developers.


So you cant make-x with BoBs anymore?

Are you [bleep]ing kidding me Jagex?
I have an assload of d bones left to do how dare you -.- :thumbdown:

"I didn't know people were training like that."
Shows how much Jagex knows about how to play their own game :wall:

I didn't know this.... and I consider myself a veteran player with a good knowledge of the game. To expect that everyone at Jagex knows this is asking too much.
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"I didn't know people were training like that."
Shows how much Jagex knows about how to play their own game :wall:

I didn't know this.... and I consider myself a veteran player with a good knowledge of the game. To expect that everyone at Jagex knows this is asking too much.


I suppose it is a bit much to say that the mod in question should have known about this. Apologies if you were offended in some manner :oops:
What i suppose i meant was,

"doesnt jagex read guides/watch videos made by players to see how they are using the content,
and what methods are being used. aka the 'try-not-to-break-it' list"

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oyes please have them do this with the other low level spells [after say 500 casts?] gf afkers?

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Kale's sling is two-handed and fast. I think shortbow speed, but I wasn't paying that much attention. I can one-hit level 2 men with it, L.

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At least they thought about blocking the spell above a certain level to counter the free exp...

Charm Sprites: well, if you still need to train Summoning, this could be a nice way to train Hunter. It would be better if either the sprites ALWAYS gave a charm slice, or if the amount of slices per charm was lowered.

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used to be +4, now it's +11

also 3.1 str bonus lol.

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Regarding make-x no longer working with a BoB.....

To be perfectly honest, I didn't know people were training like that. It wasn't even meant to be possible for you to get items from your BOB while the offer-X loop was in progress; this may have cropped up as a bug during an engine change to the way those loops work.

I'm really sorry about that.


Basically confirms everything that I've ever thought about the developers.


So you cant make-x with BoBs anymore?

Are you [bleep]ing kidding me Jagex?
I have an assload of d bones left to do how dare you -.- :thumbdown:

"I didn't know people were training like that."
Shows how much Jagex knows about how to play their own game :wall:


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oyes please have them do this with the other low level spells [after say 500 casts?] gf afkers?




sorry, to clarify, you only get the message after killing a npc. you get the same msg with the slingshot too.

which is a shame :(

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Regarding make-x no longer working with a BoB.....

To be perfectly honest, I didn't know people were training like that. It wasn't even meant to be possible for you to get items from your BOB while the offer-X loop was in progress; this may have cropped up as a bug during an engine change to the way those loops work.

I'm really sorry about that.


Basically confirms everything that I've ever thought about the developers.

It's not a bug, it's a feature. But, yeah, where has Mod Ash been the last 2 years? That was one of the best parts of constructing flatpacks/gilded altar offerings with a BoB.
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Charm Sprites: well, if you still need to train Summoning, this could be a nice way to train Hunter. It would be better if either the sprites ALWAYS gave a charm slice, or if the amount of slices per charm was lowered.


Charm sprites do always give a charm slice, it's just that it can be one of four colours. It just takes too many slices per charm to be even a halfway decent method of collecting charms (or even very helpful in collecting charms at all). It's not super unbalanced, but it could be much better without making it overpowered; if it were even lowered to five slices per charm with would be more viable (although I think ideally it would be more like two or three slices per charm). It still wouldn't compete with most combat options for collecting charms, but it would be a decent compromise in hunter xp/hour and charms/hour for someone interested in getting both at the same time.
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