michel555555 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 They said in the twitter hint that they were looking for a new way to release it. Somethign thy've never done before. We've gotten lots of drag gear from quests, monster drops give armour, square, spears and helms, skilling gets us darts. I'm hopping for high level slayer drop :thumbsup:Dragon boots are a slayer drop. A pickpocketed dragon item, though, hasn't ever been done. forgot about boots <_< , Although it would be good to have a new cyclopse monster as a slayer monster to drop it, just to keep the theme of the other defenders. [spoiler=click you know you wanna]Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 i'm guessing a quest/miniquest will be required to access a new monster, which will either drop the defender or pieces of the defender. i'm hoping the defender and its pieces, if applicable, will be untradeable. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 If it were tradeable, then we may as well just pave the Warrior's Guild over and build a nice little diner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 If it were tradeable, then we may as well just pave the Warrior's Guild over and build a nice little diner.Not if the ease of attaining it is on the level of, say, dragon claws. People would still use rune defenders for PvP and other dangerous situations rather than risking a 30m pointy piece of metal. I wouldn't mind either way. The game desperately needs both more high level untradable content, and more difficult, high level bosses/moneymakers. The only way they could mess it up is by making it horribly easy to get. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Stats would be: +29 (30) stab+28 (29) Slash+27 (28) Crush-3 Mage-2 Range +9 Summoning+6 Strength .007% margin of error, give or take. Numbers in parenthesis are if Jagex chooses to round up, although they round down in most cases. Edit: This was calculated with dragon as Tier 8, which would place it at 50 defense, however it could possibly be Tier 9, so I'll calculate that in a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyMuddy Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I also hope its untradable, and I would perfer it if it had a quest requirment or some high skill requirments. Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAGamer Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Wouldn't monkeys carry dragon defends in their hands? :P In any case, I'm not holding my breath. I still remember when Dragon Pickaxe was listed in the K.B. under the types of pickaxes. Did it come out that week? No. That month? No. I'm not certain, but it might not have even been the year either. this link kills spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspbeetle Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 2hs and shields prices has pretty much been screwed up now after Jagex mods start talking about it... Wonder what happens after its actual release.Hate to admit it, but I have lose over 3 mil with the dragonfire shield sold at 2.7mil in fear for a bail out due to the dragon defender feasco.If I buy dfs back now at max i am going to lose another 3 mil, thats the first time I have lose over 6mil for a single item in the market for 9 years of playing and 3 years of investing.I still cant figure out whats the releationship between defenders and dragonfire shield, people who prefer defenders and has 85+ herblore never use shields at all and people who are using dragon shields wont be using defenders in the near furture anyway.I guess livermore rules dont work in rs... On the other hand... blessed spirit sheild doesnt seem to be affected... weird? yes. I hope it will be a quest reward though, since most of the rs population dont bother to do quests and an untradeable rare drop sounds like as fail as challenge scrolls. Examine ChenGMT (level: 138) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 2hs and shields prices has pretty much been screwed up now after Jagex mods start talking about it... Wonder what happens after its actual release.Hate to admit it, but I have lose over 3 mil with the dragonfire shield sold at 2.7mil in fear for a bail out due to the dragon defender feasco.If I buy dfs back now at max i am going to lose another 3 mil, thats the first time I have lose over 6mil for a single item in the market for 9 years of playing and 3 years of investing.I still cant figure out whats the releationship between defenders and dragonfire shield, people who prefer defenders and has 85+ herblore never use shields at all and people who are using dragon shields wont be using defenders in the near furture anyway.I guess livermore rules dont work in rs... On the other hand... blessed spirit sheild doesnt seem to be affected... weird? yes. I hope it will be a quest reward though, since most of the rs population dont bother to do quests and an untradeable rare drop sounds like as fail as challenge scrolls.I dunno about your assertion that people won't be switching out DFS for dragon defenders. Rune defender vs DFS for Bandos solos are already pretty comparable if you're quick at banking and getting kc- when the dragon defender comes out it might give that extra kick that makes it definitively better. DFS is running out of things it's the best for, which is part of why it's dropping. In addition to the dragon defender coming out, we're still seeing delayed results of soul split coming out, which was the last nail in the coffin for defensive equipment in many scenarios. As fewer and fewer people find that they ever need non-passive healing, the trend is toward rune defenders over DFS and Bandos over barrows. The DFS's wild crash was a combination of factors, not simply a panic dump. Blessed spirit shield was already kind of a niche noob shield and much more affordable, so it simply doesn't have as far to fall. It's also a component of all the sigiled spirit shields (which still have their uses largely intact), which gives it some cushion. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf Spice Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Dragon equipment is tradable, while defenders are not. So it'll be interesting to see what route Jagex goes with the dragon defender. If it became an untradable, cheaply replaceable item like Korsasi's Sword, then I expect items like Dragonfire shield and Godswords to tank quite a lot - especially the DFS because it and dragon defenders are near perfect substitute goods. One of the only reasons why the DFS is still relatively pricey is because it has the best strength bonus of any shield in the game - and we all know that a vast majority of players fetishize strength bonus. A dragon defender having the same +7 bonus would annihilate nearly all demand for the DFS. But If it becomes tradable and extremely rare (d claws status), then I don't think the prices of current gear would change much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kata_Phfract__the_slayer Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 wouldent it be funny if the dragon defender was reised with a quest starting and ending at the warriors guild and the reward is to unlock a new set of cyplos (faster xp, higher drop rates of defenders, higher profit, dragon defender as a drop) but thay need a slayer level to kill. and dureing the quest for the boss fight you need the defender to kill it (why not! lol) and you can eather steal it or kill something for it. so it would be a quest reward, cyclops/warrior guild drop, slayer task and lastly a theafing item.overkill? I'm a Brony and proud of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Dragon equipment is tradable, while defenders are not. So it'll be interesting to see what route Jagex goes with the dragon defender. Umm...how?Rune equipment is tradable...the rune defender is not....dragon should work the same. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 wouldent it be funny if the dragon defender was reised with a quest starting and ending at the warriors guild and the reward is to unlock a new set of cyplos (faster xp, higher drop rates of defenders, higher profit, dragon defender as a drop) but thay need a slayer level to kill. and dureing the quest for the boss fight you need the defender to kill it (why not! lol) and you can eather steal it or kill something for it. so it would be a quest reward, cyclops/warrior guild drop, slayer task and lastly a theafing item.overkill?Could you actually at least TRY to spell your words correctly please? [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 wouldent it be funny if the dragon defender was reised with a quest starting and ending at the warriors guild and the reward is to unlock a new set of cyplos (faster xp, higher drop rates of defenders, higher profit, dragon defender as a drop) but thay need a slayer level to kill. and dureing the quest for the boss fight you need the defender to kill it (why not! lol) and you can eather steal it or kill something for it. so it would be a quest reward, cyclops/warrior guild drop, slayer task and lastly a theafing item.overkill?Could you actually at least TRY to spell your words correctly please?Stone, this is tip.it. Ve dun spel gud k Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Dragon defender will most likely be a quest item. Though who knows if it REALLY is the ddefender... Might be just some random object in the monkey's pocket. You never know Jagex trickery... I'm more looking forward to the dragon crossbow though. But it would definitely fall inferior to the chaotic xbow if it can't spec... BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeg3 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Chaotic defender? A quest from warriors guild to warriors guild; with cyclops boss, slayer requirenment and...... What is up with you 2? You dont get anywhere with wild speculations, based on...nothing.. Personally im looking forward to the new Zaros hilt that will make the godsword 1handed, dart-speed, and have a special attack that grows me a 3rd arm so i can wield 2 zaros godswords :ohnoes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyJenny Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 We probably just get the ability to pickpocket those famous monkeys for bananas ! Maybe a new kind of higher leveled bananas... Ok maybe we will see Dragon Knives but no defender, that's nothing you would keep in your pockets. AS for how the dragon defender would be introduced... I think it should have to do with the warriors guild, not a quest at best a miniquest and a high level Cyclope Boss, Defender untradable of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I wonder if the dragon defender will protect over anything. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hajutze Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Defender untradable of course.It doesn't have to be untradable ... they can make it tradable if the other side offers a DDefender as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackeagle4 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Making Dragon Defender tradeable would make getting rune defenders completely obselete, it should be a requirement to have a Rune defender before being able to attempt to get a dragon one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kata_Phfract__the_slayer Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Making Dragon Defender tradeable would make getting rune defenders completely obselete, it should be a requirement to have a Rune defender before being able to attempt to get a dragon one. this. hmm... maybe we need to get our rune defender and dragon defender -parts (like plate boddy or shield) and smith it around it? I'm a Brony and proud of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlowinRedM Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Maybe the rune defender will be a quest requirement if it is a quest? I think jagex said something about a quest requiring the Warriors Guild coming at some point? If so maybe that right there will be part of how we get it. The corp beast, is, well, just a corp beast. He doesnt even have any friends.[spoiler=Other Quotes]tbh idk why this makes me laugh so hardAll DFS threads turn into efficiency flame wars >.>>OP asks "why use DFS?">everyone says "there is no reason">someone says "stop bashing people who use DFS, efficiency troll ass clown">thread is now a flame fest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Maybe the rune defender will be a quest requirement if it is a quest? I think jagex said something about a quest requiring the Warriors Guild coming at some point? If so maybe that right there will be part of how we get it. I can't really back this up with anything, but it seems highly likely that you will need to beat a quest to equip it, and this quest will require a rune defender at some point. I can't just be a drop on it's own; quests and drops AREN'T mutually exclusive, you know. Seems like the easiest way to make sure you got the rune defender first. My guess is that the quest unlocks the ability to equip it and get one. I just hope I can get one lol. (By get, I mean that I'm able to kill whatever drops it or be able to afford it IF it's a drop.) Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspbeetle Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I dunno about your assertion that people won't be switching out DFS for dragon defenders. Rune defender vs DFS for Bandos solos are already pretty comparable if you're quick at banking and getting kc- when the dragon defender comes out it might give that extra kick that makes it definitively better. DFS is running out of things it's the best for, which is part of why it's dropping. In addition to the dragon defender coming out, we're still seeing delayed results of soul split coming out, which was the last nail in the coffin for defensive equipment in many scenarios. As fewer and fewer people find that they ever need non-passive healing, the trend is toward rune defenders over DFS and Bandos over barrows. The DFS's wild crash was a combination of factors, not simply a panic dump. Blessed spirit shield was already kind of a niche noob shield and much more affordable, so it simply doesn't have as far to fall. It's also a component of all the sigiled spirit shields (which still have their uses largely intact), which gives it some cushion. Well thought but if DFS is that outdated, then why it would rise back if everyone have no confidence on that goods?Besides like what I have said, people who have switched to defenders wont bother to have a DFS sitting idle in their bank which has a trend of dropping steadily since summer.The weirdest part is other 2hs such as godswords and claws have the same trend as DFS, which have a sharp drop earlier this week but swiftly recovering at 10% per day. +-10% is the max GE would allow for an single item, coincidence? I can't really back this up with anything, but it seems highly likely that you will need to beat a quest to equip it, and this quest will require a rune defender at some point. I can't just be a drop on it's own; quests and drops AREN'T mutually exclusive, you know. Seems like the easiest way to make sure you got the rune defender first. My guess is that the quest unlocks the ability to equip it and get one. I just hope I can get one lol. (By get, I mean that I'm able to kill whatever drops it or be able to afford it IF it's a drop.) What do you mean by arnt mutually exclusive? Rune plates is the obvious case, it requires dragonslayer yet can be smithed, bought for and loot from treasure chest.Dragon daggers is a boss drop in gwd as well i think. Examine ChenGMT (level: 138) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitstinks Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Probably gonna be w/ the new quest thats gonna release this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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