Dungeonsweepers (DGS) - Huge changes; read first post.

[Dragonlordjl]

just asking here because i know how awesome you guys are

 

I am about to get tier 9 berserker and starting to think about which ranger class to upgrade. Is sniper better than desperado? and does long or short bow matter?

Bows are worthless outside of Hex Hunter. And most people agree Desperado (rapid) is best for Hex.

[Obtaurian]

just asking here because i know how awesome you guys are

 

I am about to get tier 9 berserker and starting to think about which ranger class to upgrade. Is sniper better than desperado? and does long or short bow matter?

Bows are worthless outside of Hex Hunter. And most people agree Desperado (rapid) is best for Hex.

 

Times are changin', Lee. ;)

 

SNIPER is actually best for ranged users (of which there should only be hex users). It has better DPS overall while allowing for 1) more strategic hexing and 2) ammo conservation, which is actually a problem for hexers.

 

Desperado is a little better than sniper on bosses only, but not enough to really justify taking the time to switch. Furthermore, you get better returns per tier with sniper than with desperado (ie, your desperado ring would have to be much higher tiered than your sniper ring to justify using it).

[ghjkl]

just asking here because i know how awesome you guys are

 

I am about to get tier 9 berserker and starting to think about which ranger class to upgrade. Is sniper better than desperado? and does long or short bow matter?

Bows are worthless outside of Hex Hunter. And most people agree Desperado (rapid) is best for Hex.

 

Times are changin', Lee. ;)

 

SNIPER is actually best for ranged users (of which there should only be hex users). It has better DPS overall while allowing for 1) more strategic hexing and 2) ammo conservation, which is actually a problem for hexers.

 

Desperado is a little better than sniper on bosses only, but not enough to really justify taking the time to switch. Furthermore, you get better returns per tier with sniper than with desperado (ie, your desperado ring would have to be much higher tiered than your sniper ring to justify using it).

no desperado is 1.6/1.5x more damage than sniper

and ammo shouldn't be a problem because it takes 10 seconds to log out and back in

[Obtaurian]

just asking here because i know how awesome you guys are

 

I am about to get tier 9 berserker and starting to think about which ranger class to upgrade. Is sniper better than desperado? and does long or short bow matter?

Bows are worthless outside of Hex Hunter. And most people agree Desperado (rapid) is best for Hex.

 

Times are changin', Lee. ;)

 

SNIPER is actually best for ranged users (of which there should only be hex users). It has better DPS overall while allowing for 1) more strategic hexing and 2) ammo conservation, which is actually a problem for hexers.

 

Desperado is a little better than sniper on bosses only, but not enough to really justify taking the time to switch. Furthermore, you get better returns per tier with sniper than with desperado (ie, your desperado ring would have to be much higher tiered than your sniper ring to justify using it).

no desperado is 1.6/1.5x more damage than sniper

and ammo shouldn't be a problem because it takes 10 seconds to log out and back in

 

Sniper has better DPS. Three hex users spent many, many hours recording data to come to this conclusion, lol. Ammo is NOT recharged by logging. That only works for csbs.

[Matt_Marche]

just asking here because i know how awesome you guys are

 

I am about to get tier 9 berserker and starting to think about which ranger class to upgrade. Is sniper better than desperado? and does long or short bow matter?

Bows are worthless outside of Hex Hunter. And most people agree Desperado (rapid) is best for Hex.

 

Times are changin', Lee. ;)

 

SNIPER is actually best for ranged users (of which there should only be hex users). It has better DPS overall while allowing for 1) more strategic hexing and 2) ammo conservation, which is actually a problem for hexers.

 

Desperado is a little better than sniper on bosses only, but not enough to really justify taking the time to switch. Furthermore, you get better returns per tier with sniper than with desperado (ie, your desperado ring would have to be much higher tiered than your sniper ring to justify using it).

no desperado is 1.6/1.5x more damage than sniper

and ammo shouldn't be a problem because it takes 10 seconds to log out and back in

 

Downs.

[Vex]

Yes I have read watership downs matt it's very good, thank you for recommending it to me :thumbsup:

[Zaaps1]

Am now using a prom 2h, rate me.

[Michael]

Am now using a prom 2h, rate me.

 

Not a Primal 2h, no rate.

[Zaaps1]

Am now using a prom 2h, rate me.

 

Not a Primal 2h, no rate.

 

But Prom 2h is like half the name of the Primal 2h!

 

I'm gonna go bind a Primal Spear now for the other half of the name. Does that count?

[Michael]

Am now using a prom 2h, rate me.

 

Not a Primal 2h, no rate.

 

But Prom 2h is like half the name of the Primal 2h!

 

I'm gonna go bind a Primal Spear now for the other half of the name. Does that count?

 

Primal dagger, or no cigar.

[Zaaps1]

Primal dagger hunt+4.

[Lacoste]

I SAW MY FIRST GAZER TODAY BUT IT DIDNT DROP A [bleep]ING HEX

 

sorry had to get that out, so sad, guess i have to get another 20m dung exp :angry:

[Michael]

I SAW MY FIRST GAZER TODAY BUT IT DIDNT DROP A [bleep]ING HEX

 

sorry had to get that out, so sad, guess i have to get another 20m dung exp :angry:

 

2 Hex drops in 60m xp. Hi.

[notasoupbowl]

according to matt, I'm pro at Gulgea :thumbup:

Gulega* :cool:

Anyway, going to try Wingmanning a bit more. Internet isn't quite good enough to key good consistently, but I like being wingman.

*guleglaglgleglaglleagllelaglalglea

 

 

Also mc I h8 you. share.

 

 

And do I win a medal???!!?!?

or cuz my fls were after the new medals I lose

and does only all 5 in dgs count, or half teams count

 

 

 

 

Pro keying: Trapping ppl in barrel chest places woo!

 

 

 

Unfortunately I forgot to cast teleblock

 

I asked mc to do ggs to get trapped like 10x the previous fl or something and he was didn't :(

[Michael]

Oh so that's what you wanted to do, why so mean Tui?

[Saradomin_Mage]

April's BTS has forced me to stay underground.

[Mihaly]

:thumbsup: Gratz Gwyn!

[Shadowyone]

just asking here because i know how awesome you guys are

 

I am about to get tier 9 berserker and starting to think about which ranger class to upgrade. Is sniper better than desperado? and does long or short bow matter?

Bows are worthless outside of Hex Hunter. And most people agree Desperado (rapid) is best for Hex.

 

Times are changin', Lee. ;)

 

SNIPER is actually best for ranged users (of which there should only be hex users). It has better DPS overall while allowing for 1) more strategic hexing and 2) ammo conservation, which is actually a problem for hexers.

 

Desperado is a little better than sniper on bosses only, but not enough to really justify taking the time to switch. Furthermore, you get better returns per tier with sniper than with desperado (ie, your desperado ring would have to be much higher tiered than your sniper ring to justify using it).

no desperado is 1.6/1.5x more damage than sniper

and ammo shouldn't be a problem because it takes 10 seconds to log out and back in

 

Sniper has better DPS. Three hex users spent many, many hours recording data to come to this conclusion, lol. Ammo is NOT recharged by logging. That only works for csbs.

 

I only really range on a few bosses so that pretty much answers for me

thank you very much

[Mihaly]

[Grimy_Bunyip]

no desperado is 1.6/1.5x more damage than sniper

and ammo shouldn't be a problem because it takes 10 seconds to log out and back in

 

Sniper has better DPS. Three hex users spent many, many hours recording data to come to this conclusion, lol. Ammo is NOT recharged by logging. That only works for csbs.

way to not explain why guys.

 

in short, Desperado bonus doesn't stack with hexhunter bonus on Mobs, but does on bosses.

Sniper boosts by a direct factor of 1.5x

So desperado bonus isn't actually 1.6x when you hex a monster with nonzero mage level.

 

I SAW MY FIRST GAZER TODAY BUT IT DIDNT DROP A [bleep]ING HEX

 

sorry had to get that out, so sad, guess i have to get another 20m dung exp :angry:

~1/16 drop rate from soulgazers, don't get ur hopes up that easily ;p

[SirIzenhime]

 

in short, Desperado bonus doesn't stack with hexhunter bonus on Mobs, but does on bosses.

 

 

So when shooting a demon, you ONLY get he hexhunter boost, and nothing from your desperado ring?

That's pretty lame...

[xpx]

 

in short, Desperado bonus doesn't stack with hexhunter bonus on Mobs, but does on bosses.

 

 

So when shooting a demon, you ONLY get he hexhunter boost, and nothing from your desperado ring?

That's pretty lame...

Na, the way hex work is that it gives you a range level for every mage level your opponent has, but desperado gives you a percentage to your own range levels, thus, the basis is that sniper does stack with hexhunter bonus, bot desperado only does so for bosses.

 

Had some banana floors with Tui today, trying for some faster floors.

First one wasn't a complete map as noone could pot up to 104 agil, but it didn't seem as thee were too many doors left unopened.

No battle mage on this floor(noone got it), was a nice one though.

Last floor everyone overloaded at the start and i keyed a beast floor while Tui obviously ragequit. All keys were done but i couldn't bother opening the last door.

[SirIzenhime]

so basically, desperado gives you 20% of 99 range, not 20% of 198 mage (like if the opponent has 99 mage)?

[Mihaly]

Nice dungeons, xpx! :thumbsup:

[ghjkl]

well even if you are hex you should be zerker still imo