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The Evolution of Combat: BETA discussion

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What's the attack speed for weapons now? Is average 3.6 now, with fast being 2.4 and fastest being 1.8?

Fastest 2.4, Fast 3, Average 3.6

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In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers.

The removal of Polypore is a damn shame. How am I expected to Slay with Lunars permanently on? Without having to systematically abuse that Lunar Lodestone.

PS: Don't [bleep]ing recommend me that god awful 850K Produce Point, lvl 99 spell, 1-hour-of-Livid-Farm-per-1000-casts-which-also-forego-superior-DPS Borrowed Power.

 

PPS: Maybe the removal of Polypore Staff's inate spell was just a dastardly ploy to force people to play more Livid Farm?

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Why are you slaying with a pps in the first place?

 

PPS currently is a good cheap option for maging metal dragons if you don't have the chaotics etc. to power through em in melee or want the mage xp.

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Because maging metal drags is still good kill speed and still good xp and still good profit from drops; unless you're being utterly anal metagamer and 'can't' do anything remotely worse than the best there's no good reason to not do em.

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Why are you slaying with a pps in the first place?

 

Because PPS on metallic dragons is more DPS for me than melee. Also for Polypore creatures itself.

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I doubt polypore can do a iron/steel dragon task faster then max str+cr+ yak of spec restore.

I am not a skiller, but i do some skills.

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I'm just going to be blunt about this

 

after everything runescape's been through, if you're going to stop playing because of this

 

that has to be the saddest, most pathetic reason to choose compared to the other ones

 

 

If it were the reason given(and it appears for some people indeed it is), it still wouldn't be as lacklustre as the argument or lack thereof you have given to make your case. Love it or hate it; the beta is antithetical to the premise of Runescape and a complete departure from its established system of combat, it's a major change; in a list of the most major changes in RS history, this would easily be in the top 5-10. Some people can handle that, others can't and there's nothing "pathetic" or "sad" about people leaving the game over this. It would appear a lot of people are at least planning at this time to leave the game if the beta supplants the live RS; I haven't seen any data on this, but there seems to be a fair amount of anecdotal evidence(so take it for what it's worth) out there corroborating this.

I doubt polypore can do a iron/steel dragon task faster then max str+cr+ yak of spec restore.

 

He didn't say it could. He said for him, it was better. If he wanted to skip, he obviously would have. I think the point has been made and at this point we're beating a dead horse.

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I'm just going to be blunt about this

 

after everything runescape's been through, if you're going to stop playing because of this

 

that has to be the saddest, most pathetic reason to choose compared to the other ones

 

 

If it were the reason given(and it appears for some people indeed it is), it still wouldn't be as lacklustre as the argument or lack thereof you have given to make your case. Love it or hate it; the beta is antithetical to the premise of Runescape and a complete departure from its established system of combat, it's a major change; in a list of the most major changes in RS history, this would easily be in the top 5-10. Some people can handle that, others can't and there's nothing "pathetic" or "sad" about people leaving the game over this. It would appear a lot of people are at least planning at this time to leave the game if the beta supplants the live RS; I haven't seen any data on this, but there seems to be a fair amount of anecdotal evidence(so take it for what it's worth) out there corroborating this.

At the same time though, I know a few people who will be coming back with the combat update. People will leave and people will come, just like with every update.

This week's event doesn't unlock a piece of the suit, right?

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Are there any hidden bonuses here?

 

No bonuses

 

I'm just going to be blunt about this

 

after everything runescape's been through, if you're going to stop playing because of this

 

that has to be the saddest, most pathetic reason to choose compared to the other ones

 

 

If it were the reason given(and it appears for some people indeed it is), it still wouldn't be as lacklustre as the argument or lack thereof you have given to make your case. Love it or hate it; the beta is antithetical to the premise of Runescape and a complete departure from its established system of combat, it's a major change; in a list of the most major changes in RS history, this would easily be in the top 5-10. Some people can handle that, others can't and there's nothing "pathetic" or "sad" about people leaving the game over this. It would appear a lot of people are at least planning at this time to leave the game if the beta supplants the live RS; I haven't seen any data on this, but there seems to be a fair amount of anecdotal evidence(so take it for what it's worth) out there corroborating this.

At the same time though, I know a few people who will be coming back with the combat update. People will leave and people will come, just like with every update.

 

Agreed, and many more hordes will be joining the game because of the beta(if it is implemented and advertised properly); the potential is tremendous, which is why I am assuming they undertook this venture in the first place.

This week's event doesn't unlock a piece of the suit, right?

 

No it does not.

All 4 outfit unlocks have come and gone.

There is going to be a 'bonus' unlock in early september if you missed one of the 4.

If you missed more than 1 of the 4 your still utterly screwed for getting it all.

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This week's event doesn't unlock a piece of the suit, right?

 

No it does not.

All 4 outfit unlocks have come and gone.

There is going to be a 'bonus' unlock in early september if you missed one of the 4.

If you missed more than 1 of the 4 your still utterly screwed for getting it all.

 

Thank god I only missed one, then!

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40,919th person to access Turmoil. 21,559th person to access Overloads.

 

signatureteksti.png

 

 

Are there any hidden bonuses here?

 

No bonuses

 

This week's event doesn't unlock a piece of the suit, right?

 

No it does not.

All 4 outfit unlocks have come and gone.

There is going to be a 'bonus' unlock in early september if you missed one of the 4.

If you missed more than 1 of the 4 your still utterly screwed for getting it all.

 

Thank god I only missed one, then!

 

Meh, I only found out about the outfit after I had missed the first event, so I never bothered with the others, and now this. Not that I care, I have long stopped caring about these sort of items; I get them if I can, otherwise it isn't a big deal.

This week's event doesn't unlock a piece of the suit, right?

 

No it does not.

All 4 outfit unlocks have come and gone.

There is going to be a 'bonus' unlock in early september if you missed one of the 4.

If you missed more than 1 of the 4 your still utterly screwed for getting it all.

There may be a possibility that the bonus weekend will be worth more than 1 missed piece still, depends how many people are missing 2+ pieces I suppose. Either way I'll take part in the bonus event just to 100% guarantee I get myself the Steam Punk outfit even though I have done 4/4, 5/5 is better :)

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A piece of glass in the sand under your feet, it cuts you deep and it makes you hate the beauty that you see.

This week's event doesn't unlock a piece of the suit, right?

 

No it does not.

All 4 outfit unlocks have come and gone.

There is going to be a 'bonus' unlock in early september if you missed one of the 4.

If you missed more than 1 of the 4 your still utterly screwed for getting it all.

There may be a possibility that the bonus weekend will be worth more than 1 missed piece still, depends how many people are missing 2+ pieces I suppose. Either way I'll take part in the bonus event just to 100% guarantee I get myself the Steam Punk outfit even though I have done 4/4, 5/5 is better :)

 

There is not.

Jagex have said it will be be a single unlock for if you missed one previous weekend

"While there’s no item unlock this weekend, don’t forget that we’re putting in an additional outfit-unlock weekend in early September, as a catch-up event. So if you missed an item unlock activity previously, you’ll be able to complete the catch-up activity in order to get access to the complete Mad Scientist Outfit. Sweet!"

 

From the beta event BA post for this week.

Note 'if you missed an item unlock' is in singular, not plural (which would be if you missed item unlocks). So it is for 1 item unlock.

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Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills ::  Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA Rewards

Dragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue

This week's event doesn't unlock a piece of the suit, right?

 

No it does not.

All 4 outfit unlocks have come and gone.

There is going to be a 'bonus' unlock in early september if you missed one of the 4.

If you missed more than 1 of the 4 your still utterly screwed for getting it all.

There may be a possibility that the bonus weekend will be worth more than 1 missed piece still, depends how many people are missing 2+ pieces I suppose. Either way I'll take part in the bonus event just to 100% guarantee I get myself the Steam Punk outfit even though I have done 4/4, 5/5 is better :)

 

There is not.

Jagex have said it will be be a single unlock for if you missed one previous weekend

"While there’s no item unlock this weekend, don’t forget that we’re putting in an additional outfit-unlock weekend in early September, as a catch-up event. So if you missed an item unlock activity previously, you’ll be able to complete the catch-up activity in order to get access to the complete Mad Scientist Outfit. Sweet!"

 

From the beta event BA post for this week.

Note 'if you missed an item unlock' is in singular, not plural (which would be if you missed item unlocks). So it is for 1 item unlock.

yeah but Jagex'sIVPex's word is worthless IMO, don't trust a thing they say til it's live content. In there eye's £ > keeping there word. Time will tell I suppose.

Quest Cape Achieved 10/08/2012

TFU: Ruinous Edge

TFUsig2_zpsc5e7f1a4.png

A piece of glass in the sand under your feet, it cuts you deep and it makes you hate the beauty that you see.

This week's event doesn't unlock a piece of the suit, right?

 

No it does not.

All 4 outfit unlocks have come and gone.

There is going to be a 'bonus' unlock in early september if you missed one of the 4.

If you missed more than 1 of the 4 your still utterly screwed for getting it all.

There may be a possibility that the bonus weekend will be worth more than 1 missed piece still, depends how many people are missing 2+ pieces I suppose. Either way I'll take part in the bonus event just to 100% guarantee I get myself the Steam Punk outfit even though I have done 4/4, 5/5 is better :)

 

There is not.

Jagex have said it will be be a single unlock for if you missed one previous weekend

"While there’s no item unlock this weekend, don’t forget that we’re putting in an additional outfit-unlock weekend in early September, as a catch-up event. So if you missed an item unlock activity previously, you’ll be able to complete the catch-up activity in order to get access to the complete Mad Scientist Outfit. Sweet!"

 

From the beta event BA post for this week.

Note 'if you missed an item unlock' is in singular, not plural (which would be if you missed item unlocks). So it is for 1 item unlock.

yeah but Jagex'sIVPex's word is worthless IMO, don't trust a thing they say til it's live content. In there eye's £ > keeping there word. Time will tell I suppose.

 

Even when the content goes live, you can't assume that policy won't suddenly change.

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This week's event doesn't unlock a piece of the suit, right?

 

No it does not.

All 4 outfit unlocks have come and gone.

There is going to be a 'bonus' unlock in early september if you missed one of the 4.

If you missed more than 1 of the 4 your still utterly screwed for getting it all.

There may be a possibility that the bonus weekend will be worth more than 1 missed piece still, depends how many people are missing 2+ pieces I suppose. Either way I'll take part in the bonus event just to 100% guarantee I get myself the Steam Punk outfit even though I have done 4/4, 5/5 is better :)

 

There is not.

Jagex have said it will be be a single unlock for if you missed one previous weekend

"While there’s no item unlock this weekend, don’t forget that we’re putting in an additional outfit-unlock weekend in early September, as a catch-up event. So if you missed an item unlock activity previously, you’ll be able to complete the catch-up activity in order to get access to the complete Mad Scientist Outfit. Sweet!"

 

From the beta event BA post for this week.

Note 'if you missed an item unlock' is in singular, not plural (which would be if you missed item unlocks). So it is for 1 item unlock.

yeah but Jagex'sIVPex's word is worthless IMO, don't trust a thing they say til it's live content. In there eye's £ > keeping there word. Time will tell I suppose.

 

Even when the content goes live, you can't assume that policy won't suddenly change.

 

True actually, never trust anything IVPex say.

Quest Cape Achieved 10/08/2012

TFU: Ruinous Edge

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A piece of glass in the sand under your feet, it cuts you deep and it makes you hate the beauty that you see.

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