jayc3399 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 After saying already that I won't vote, I went and did anyway. Why? First of all, I don't think that setting up and running older version of the game is taking as much expenses as people expect here. On the other hand, every player playing on a old server has to be a member or has to be a member and pay something on top of that. That seems like a pretty decent revenue to me. Revenue that could be spent on improving both games. I do believe that the old servers will bring people back, and maybe even make people try out on the current version again. After thinking about it for a while, I can't really see all the ways people (me probably included) have said about how this will backfire on Jagex as a business and by that way to the future of the current game. In a game like this, a fresh start (or atleast a possibility for one) is needed. I know I personally have played over 10 years on my account, and have no real reason to go through all of it again on a new one. But I can see alot of people who would like to start the whole game from a scratch. This game was never really fair for everyone. People who started later missed out on rares, missed out on being first to get 85 slayer, 85 mining, 91 runecrafting, high combats, slaying high level monsters and all that. They missed out on the chance to make the money big time. Where some people already had managed to make banks and skills so high there was no real competition to be had. Of course there are always exceptions, but for any average player I can see this becoming a problem. In a game where experience, items, highscores and competing against others matters as much as here, having a chance to start a game from same line with everyone else does seem quite tempting. Fresh economy, new challenges.. A fresh start. For that reason be I given a chance to play on 2007 server without paying extra (or atleast any more than 5), I will be around to see how it all plays out. Who will progress fastest, who will complete the most quests fastest, which way will people approach different goals, where will people generally focus their gameplay and how will the economy play out? After giving this quite some thought - measuring the pros and cons - I can't really see a reason not to vote. EDIT: It would be the most ridicule thing ever for them to raise the membership 5-15$ for everyone so we could all play 2007scape. I'm pretty certain that you have to pay 5-15$ extra to get to play 2007scape, but you can still keep playing current version for the price you are paying now. Expecting anything different is just foolish.I have to admit this made me second guess myself. The only thing I want to add though is that I don't want to see 750k because I don't want any form of free version, and make it so the trail accounts can't access it, which should help largely with bots. 1 Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saronmas Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I see people complaining about the current RS, saying it's not the game they want(RS forums had alot of these complaints). Well, I want a Viking-themed Assassin's Creed, a world-sized MMOFPS/RTS, and i wanted that MechScape thingy. Oh, wait, I'm a player, not the guy making the games. I don't decide shit, the devs do. So, apart from the cash jagex will get from the few people that will pay for 2007RS, they have no reason to do this. Ignore the retards, crybabies, etc, and keep going forward.Do I agree with all the updates? Of course not, and some of them could have been handled better: Solomon and Squeal should have gone slower, instead of new items every week it probably would have been better if it was new items every month or so. But like they said before, all the money from those things went into the game, the team, etc. The players got used to jagex updating every week. I don't know any other game where updates come that often. Hell, I'd like some games to update atleast monthly, instead of every once in a blue moon. And if they need SoF and Solomon to keep the quality up and keep adding new and better things, then I'm all for it (not saying i'll pay for anything :D let's leave that to the rich kids). Even if the 2007RS comes back, it won't be the same. The community won't go back to what it was before. People change, and now we have more of the less desirable types. These types will go to that server and people will complain even more. Runescape grew, but seems some people can't accept that.Yes, there's alot of good memories from "Old" RS, but you won't get them back. You'll never feel epic again when you get that rune platebody or when you kill your first dragon/epic monster. I remember, as F2P, saving up 20k and running around for hours asking for a rune platebody Q.Q so awesome when I finally got it. But if the small things don't leave good memories, go do other stuff. Solo the bosses. Try and do the "impossible". Do tricky quests with no quest guide(the elves' quests O_O ). Have fun, but stop complaining. Things change, and we should keep up with them. I've been playing for 8-9 years, and I will not vote for this. I don't want the old stuff, I want Runescape and it's already here. Now, I wonder how many of the people complaining and voting actually played RS back in 2006 or 2007? How many are botters, scammers, etc? I reckon the gold farmers/sellers will be happy, new start for everyone will be awesome for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Now, I wonder how many of the people complaining and voting actually played RS back in 2006 or 2007? How many are botters, scammers, etc? I reckon the gold farmers/sellers will be happy, new start for everyone will be awesome for them. Pkers, stakers :) I couldn't care less about 07 servers if i didn't pk. Why? Doesn't matter if theres something called EoC if I just skill, couldn't even notice the difference. Go try out pking in EoC and u'll see what I mean. Oh wait, there is no pking to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hour 1 - 14kHour 2 - 27k (+13k -1k)Hour 3 - 36k (+9k -4k)Hour 4 - 44k (+8k -1k)Hour 5 - 52k (+8k =)Hour 6 - 59.4k (+7.4k -0.6k)Hour 7 - 66.2k (+6.8k - 0.6k)Hour 8 - 73k (+6.8k =)Hour 9 - 79.5k (+6.5k -0.3k) Interesting how thus far coming into start of peak time hasn't actually reversed vote decline, only seems to of flat-lined it. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 80k :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Interesting how thus far coming into start of peak time hasn't actually reversed vote decline, only seems to of flat-lined it.You've still got quite a few time zones worth of Americans (As in, North/South America, not just the States) to go. :razz: I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Interesting how thus far coming into start of peak time hasn't actually reversed vote decline, only seems to of flat-lined it.You've still got quite a few time zones worth of Americans (As in, North/South America, not just the States) to go. :razz: True but I'd of thought by this point with America starting to get on more the vote decline would've at least marginally reversed to maybe +0.5k or so. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hour 1 - 14kHour 2 - 27k (+13k -1k)Hour 3 - 36k (+9k -4k)Hour 4 - 44k (+8k -1k)Hour 5 - 52k (+8k =)Hour 6 - 59.4k (+7.4k -0.6k)Hour 7 - 66.2k (+6.8k - 0.6k)Hour 8 - 73k (+6.8k =)Hour 9 - 79.5k (+6.5k -0.3k) Interesting how thus far coming into start of peak time hasn't actually reversed vote decline, only seems to of flat-lined it. Cause the most hectic fans have already voted. The fall would most likely be bigger if it wasn't plenty of new players logging in. Which is a bit sad. After thinking about this for a while, it would most likely be for our everyones best interest to get over 500k votes. Nevermind if you care about 2007scape or not. Getting 2 games with one membership is guaranteed to get people not only to return to the game - but also try the current game aswell. Expecting people to return playing in masses with over 10$ or even up to like 20+$ monthly fees just doesn't seem reasonable. More players we get to 2007scape, the more money and players we also get for the real RuneScape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hour 1 - 14kHour 2 - 27k (+13k -1k)Hour 3 - 36k (+9k -4k)Hour 4 - 44k (+8k -1k)Hour 5 - 52k (+8k =)Hour 6 - 59.4k (+7.4k -0.6k)Hour 7 - 66.2k (+6.8k - 0.6k)Hour 8 - 73k (+6.8k =)Hour 9 - 79.5k (+6.5k -0.3k) Interesting how thus far coming into start of peak time hasn't actually reversed vote decline, only seems to of flat-lined it. Cause the most hectic fans have already voted. The fall would most likely be bigger if it wasn't plenty of new players logging in. Which is a bit sad. After thinking about this for a while, it would most likely be for our everyones best interest to get over 500k votes. Nevermind if you care about 2007scape or not. Getting 2 games with one membership is guaranteed to get people not only to return to the game - but also try the current game aswell. Expecting people to return playing in masses with over 10$ or even up to like 20+$ monthly fees just doesn't seem reasonable. More players we get to 2007scape, the more money and players we also get for the real RuneScape. I guess what your trying to get at is the more people you can appeal to the better the game fairs. It reminds me again of the server system in WoW, you get PvE(PvM) and PvP, then there is PvE-RPG, and PvP-RPG, Latin servers, english servers, etc. Your hitting the needs of many groups simply by diversifying and it truly doesn't hurt anyone to have those options. I prefer to primarily play on a PvE server, however I've also crossed over to PvP servers. Meanwhile RPG servers don't appeal to me at all so I just avoid those. Funny how choice is what we are fighting against now. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Those servers only have some features turned on or off. They aren't necessarily completely different games. While in WoW the servers are pretty severely separated, it doesn't mean they needed two content teams to create content for two different types of servers.. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDexter Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Promotion video for 2007scape! :P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nopenope Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I touched the monkey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Those servers only have some features turned on or off. They aren't necessarily completely different games. While in WoW the servers are pretty severely separated, it doesn't mean they needed two content teams to create content for two different types of servers.. The thing is though, 07 scape doesn't need development. I don't agree with the options that support that, aside from possibly bot prevention.My post earlier about offering "Fresh start" scape doesn't need different development, merely controls who gets in, same way members works. 1 Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxpprod Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Dr Who plays RS. Who knew. [bleep] OFF HOW ARE U SO [bleep]ING LUCKY U PIECE OF [bleep]ING SHIT [bleep] [bleep] [wagon] MUNCHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargo_VI Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 http://youtu.be/2taL7ofzR4s Promotion video for 2007scape! :PSo where can I pre-order the upcoming "I voted for 2007 to return" shirt? If you have a goal, go for it :D Work hard, be proud and be yourself ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufem Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Wow it even goes past 50k ! Personaly sign in just to vote, i'm not interrested into playing old Runescape anyway. New one is fine. "Mieć milion i nie mieć miliona to razem dwa miliony" A. Sapkowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veiva Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'm refraining from voting because, regardless of what I want, my old RS friends/clan is not coming back. That was the only reason I trudged through the game like I did back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estoc Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hour 1 - 14kHour 2 - 27k (+13k -1k)Hour 3 - 36k (+9k -4k)Hour 4 - 44k (+8k -1k)Hour 5 - 52k (+8k =)Hour 6 - 59.4k (+7.4k -0.6k)Hour 7 - 66.2k (+6.8k - 0.6k)Hour 8 - 73k (+6.8k =) Now I'm not that great with statistics or math, but isn't this an average of around 833 less votes per hour? Clearly that number will drop as time goes on and pushes the average lower but I really can't see us getting more than 1-2k/day after a day or so. I'm rather doubtful it will even get 250k, and 500-750k is just not going to happen. From the empty days of hope, deny the darknessFollow my voice, we'll run far away from hereIf only to hide, to escape this lifeAnd live forever, forever in the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Those servers only have some features turned on or off. They aren't necessarily completely different games. While in WoW the servers are pretty severely separated, it doesn't mean they needed two content teams to create content for two different types of servers.. The thing is though, 07 scape doesn't need development. I don't agree with the options that support that, aside from possibly bot prevention.My post earlier about offering "Fresh start" scape doesn't need different development, merely controls who gets in, same way members works. I was actually referring to their "goalposts" of 250k, 500k, and 750k votes. At those values, they claimed there could be some content development. And... it will always cost development work. There are always going to be issues. The cost might be small, but it will be there. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hour 1 - 14kHour 2 - 27k (+13k -1k)Hour 3 - 36k (+9k -4k)Hour 4 - 44k (+8k -1k)Hour 5 - 52k (+8k =)Hour 6 - 59.4k (+7.4k -0.6k)Hour 7 - 66.2k (+6.8k - 0.6k)Hour 8 - 73k (+6.8k =)Hour 9 - 79.5k (+6.5k -0.3k)Hour 10 - 85.2k (+5.7k -0.8k) This'll be me doen for hourly break downs as I'll be heading to bed soon with it being 11pm and all; would be cool if someone kept this going though! Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'll track the next hour or two. Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krampell Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 yt Promotion video for 2007scape! :PI like how that video is the one of the very few uploads on rs' channel that doesn't have a massive ammount of negative votes on youtube.I lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconut Bodywash Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 With all the debate and what-not, I just thought about it and there's really no reason to not vote... even if you don't want to play it, just go throw a vote in, it'll make someone elses day lol Thx to MxM for parts of the sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoko Kurama Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 With all the debate and what-not, I just thought about it and there's really no reason to not vote... even if you don't want to play it, just go throw a vote in, it'll make someone elses day lol We have just spent a dozen pages arguing why this isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruinous Edge Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 With all the debate and what-not, I just thought about it and there's really no reason to not vote... even if you don't want to play it, just go throw a vote in, it'll make someone elses day lolAs said before, no just no....re-read the last 39 pages for many reasons why this is the worst idea possible. Quest Cape Achieved 10/08/2012TFU: Ruinous Edge http://www.transformersuniverse.comA piece of glass in the sand under your feet, it cuts you deep and it makes you hate the beauty that you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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