Autoer/macroer discussion- please post here!

[redhaloguy]

for all people that say they should have a str lvl or combat lvl requriment look at the lvl 3 skillers like

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

zzzamorak or elishot there both good lvl 3 skillers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

they dont disurve to have to get str lvl just to weild and item....

[Cruel]

i am wcing willows in dreynor, and there are 8 lvl3s there, this is definitly a huge problem

 

 

 

That means they auto?

 

 

 

People need to stop judging by combat level.

[ranging_beast]

Sometime, you could just tell they are autoer/macro. They have the first clothe you choose, and bronze axe/pickaxe depending on what they are macroing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ranged Crave

[Doomster]

Sometime, you could just tell they are autoer/macro. They have the first clothe you choose, and bronze axe/pickaxe depending on what they are macroing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ranged Crave

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not always... you can find macroers with the best tool for the job, a rune pickaxe for mining, or a rune axe for woodcutting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Default clothing is pretty suspicious though, as are alphabet soup names with numbers, often sequential!

[abgar]

Here is some ways to detect a macroer...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. It may not reply when you talk, but there is some that can reply but they always say the same things. I remember when I was in draynor and cutted willows and i asked "wc lvls?" then a macro said "enough :P" and i asked how much "enough" is, then he didint reply but when i said "xoxoos, whats your wc lvl?" (his name wasnt xoxoos but i nust pur something there) then he said "enough :P" again, so i asked "wc lvls?" once again and the same thing happened, he always said "enough :P" when i asked for his wc lvl so i reorted him and later i got a message about him getting banned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. If they loose thier axes they always look for it quite a while before they find it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. Yew cutters are easy to detect they just dont know what they are doing (stands at the wrong tree, starts chopping late etc.)

[Hell_Ferian]

 

i am wcing willows in dreynor, and there are 8 lvl3s there, this is definitly a huge problem

 

 

 

That means they auto?

 

 

 

People need to stop judging by combat level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

agreed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i have the intelligence of a 110+ combat player (assuming that they are at least semi smart)..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yet have the combat lvl of a 73 player. im judged and called a noob..funny really

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

p.s. old main was lvl 106 1500+ total

[Notorious_Ice]

Hell_Ferian you don't need to be smart to have a high level account. A Monkey could train a runescape account, all it is, is clicking monsters. Your logic says that clicking lots of monsters, more than most, makes you smart?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is some ways to detect a macroer...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. It may not reply when you talk, but there is some that can reply but they always say the same things. I remember when I was in draynor and cutted willows and i asked "wc lvls?" then a macro said "enough :P" and i asked how much "enough" is, then he didint reply but when i said "xoxoos, whats your wc lvl?" (his name wasnt xoxoos but i nust pur something there) then he said "enough :P" again, so i asked "wc lvls?" once again and the same thing happened, he always said "enough :P" when i asked for his wc lvl so i reorted him and later i got a message about him getting banned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. If they loose thier axes they always look for it quite a while before they find it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. Yew cutters are easy to detect they just dont know what they are doing (stands at the wrong tree, starts chopping late etc.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are two types of autoers: the lazy ones and the smart ones. The lazy ones are the type that you can tell if they autoing or not. Default clothing, bot like, no talking or poor auto responder etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The smart autoers, are the ones you will probably never notise. These are the types of macroers who just like macroing to 'beat the system.' And don't even care/use the pixil gain. I am one of these people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are usually at least level 40, have regular names,armor, clothing etc. They have a good auto responder, (I made an auto responder, and I have lost count of people having conversations with my macro. I would post some of the logs but I lost them all when I recently formatted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They log in and out randomly, ask random questions, answer questions when asked, switch actions. (One I used a long time ago was a varrok east miner which killed the rat every time it came up and collected and banked gems.) Have player arrays (EG: 5 different accounts, one mining, one killing goblins two killing men and one . Each macros for 1 hour before it switches to the next account)

[underu2000]

Thx to those dudes were sharing how to macro....Those of us who dont really appreciate it... :evil:

 

 

 

And technically, the fact that so many bots are lvl 3s sort of lets us clump every lvl 3 whos wcing yews as an auto. WE dont hate them because of their combat lvl or because they're 'nooby', but because of the way they break the rules so blatantly.

 

 

 

Actually, im seeing an increase in higher lvl autoers. A year ago, there were only lvl 3s, but now im seeing lvls 10s and 20s even cutting yews.

 

 

 

Ive seen a pattern in the way most bots are killed during their 'jobs' (oh, its most satisfying). Usually, when an aggresive npc like a tree spirit pops up, the bots just run. But when a random meant for conversation comes, like rick turnpike or that-pirate-i-dont-remember, they seem to just stand there. Eventually, they get crossbowed to death. Im not sure why this pattern plagues most bots, but maybe jagex might want to manipulate this to get more of this darn cheaters...

[freshpimpofchicago]

I didn't know those people cutting yews are bots because everytime I go by the jail in port sarim I see peoplewhit names tiennkanun all the same but are,I always say bad words to them, I always thought to myself that they are nice cause they never report me, those chinese guys better watch it or im gonna go with my mexican vatos(Im mexican too) to China and take theyr jobs :D

[Ercan]

I saw a lvl 3 cuttuing yews under faladore. I asked him if he was a bot. He said Im not a bot, im not a bot, im not a bot. Then he runned away and logged out and changed world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

another fun thing was when aryan still existed. All those lvl 3 mining ess. And then as fast as a playermod logged in, all the bots logged out at the same time. I find that hilerous.

[ratty640]

OMG... not every flippin auto out ther is a chinese person u know! or japanese, taiwanese etc. u guys that think that are obviously uber preudice. i have a friend that writes scripts for rs on sites, i tell him to stop but every time the sites get get shut down or his members get ip banned etc a bigger, better bot comes out. these bigger better bots have features most of you probably don't even know exist eg. antirandoms, ramdom logging etc. in my opinion BOTS ARE RUNNING THE AUTO MARKET.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

omg how old are you people... chinese people have people playing runescape to sell money! this may be true to an extent (1% :roll: ) as you can see by typing "runescape" into ebay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:evil: :x :?

[Tommybuckk]

 

i am wcing willows in dreynor, and there are 8 lvl3s there, this is definitly a huge problem

 

 

 

That means they auto?

 

 

 

People need to stop judging by combat level.

 

 

 

i agree with you i have very nice conersations with lvl 3s in tutorial island clothing...Most have high lvled mains...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People think i am an autoer since when i wc i am always looking at sumthing else!

[anonimu]

Hell_Ferian you don't need to be smart to have a high level account. A Monkey could train a runescape account, all it is, is clicking monsters. Your logic says that clicking lots of monsters, more than most, makes you smart?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is some ways to detect a macroer...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. It may not reply when you talk, but there is some that can reply but they always say the same things. I remember when I was in draynor and cutted willows and i asked "wc lvls?" then a macro said "enough :P" and i asked how much "enough" is, then he didint reply but when i said "xoxoos, whats your wc lvl?" (his name wasnt xoxoos but i nust pur something there) then he said "enough :P" again, so i asked "wc lvls?" once again and the same thing happened, he always said "enough :P" when i asked for his wc lvl so i reorted him and later i got a message about him getting banned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. If they loose thier axes they always look for it quite a while before they find it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. Yew cutters are easy to detect they just dont know what they are doing (stands at the wrong tree, starts chopping late etc.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are two types of autoers: the lazy ones and the smart ones. The lazy ones are the type that you can tell if they autoing or not. Default clothing, bot like, no talking or poor auto responder etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The smart autoers, are the ones you will probably never notise. These are the types of macroers who just like macroing to 'beat the system.' And don't even care/use the pixil gain. I am one of these people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are usually at least level 40, have regular names,armor, clothing etc. They have a good auto responder, (I made an auto responder, and I have lost count of people having conversations with my macro. I would post some of the logs but I lost them all when I recently formatted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They log in and out randomly, ask random questions, answer questions when asked, switch actions. (One I used a long time ago was a varrok east miner which killed the rat every time it came up and collected and banked gems.) Have player arrays (EG: 5 different accounts, one mining, one killing goblins two killing men and one . Each macros for 1 hour before it switches to the next account)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hmm... do the autoers that answer questions look for keywords? And which progamming language do you use? Also, you know how goblins/rats/rocks/etc. have the same color as other things; do you make the cursor spiral and at the same time look for text in top left corner, or do you use another method I haven't yet thought of? I've made a few autoers just to see if they'd work, and I could make an autoer do everything listed above, I just wouldn't have enough time to progam the keyword/sentence database...

[1alebcay]

Random thought... All that really needs to happen is to get pmods to go the the yews at Rimmington, Fally, Varrock, and the willows at Port Sarim and have them world hop reporting autoers. When I'm training wc I usually world hop from time to time so that I can report more autoers... (I ask them 4 or 5 times using private chat if they are a macro and then I report them) It's a great way to make woodcutting less boring. (also the mods would have to be disguised)

[Luke]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One easy solution has to be 'Runescape Police' - or the mods, or players specifically authorised to track down and deal with such suspicious activity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats what Jagex staff are paid to do, or they can paysomeone else to make a proper "detection system".

[Goldlord1]

Recently on an alternate account, I set out to test the ability of these macros. There is a program that runs these "scripts" that other people program to do different things. Lots of them have weak spots. They also run on colors and logos. So, Jagex should change the logos and colors occasionally.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any one who says these scripts are stupid are totally wrong!!! Here are some things I have seen it do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Successfully say its mining level

 

 

 

- Successfuly trade

 

 

 

- Successfully answer the Sandwich Lady AND pick the correct item

 

 

 

- Complete a mystery box

 

 

 

- Start a converstation

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are very smart so, most break easily but there is some that are super smart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----REMEMBER I WAS ONLY TESTING! I NEVER MACRO!-----

[Beaumonde]

Anyone ever notice that if you send a message to Jagex with certain words in it like "fan site" a macro sends you an automatic message after all Jagex does to get use not to auto!

[anonimu]

Recently on an alternate account, I set out to test the ability of these macros. There is a program that runs these "scripts" that other people program to do different things. Lots of them have weak spots. They also run on colors and logos. So, Jagex should change the logos and colors occasionally.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any one who says these scripts are stupid are totally wrong!!! Here are some things I have seen it do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Successfully say its mining level

 

 

 

- Successfuly trade

 

 

 

- Successfully answer the Sandwich Lady AND pick the correct item

 

 

 

- Complete a mystery box

 

 

 

- Start a converstation

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are very smart so, most break easily but there is some that are super smart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----REMEMBER I WAS ONLY TESTING! I NEVER MACRO!-----

 

 

 

Lol... don't you know anything about programming? In simple terms: if you write something in a proggraming language, anyone who has that language can use it. You can write scripts (that really shouldn't be in quotation marks) in any language... SCAR isn't the only thing you can write/make scripts in...

 

 

 

Macros' intelligence depends on the programmer's intelligence, patience, and goal. And some macros don't mostly rely on colors, they rely on font... If you try programming a macro, you'll see how hard it is to find a color that only one object in an area has...

[Cyborg_Ron]

of course some macroers sell the logs and get millions and then they have sites that say they are "selling 1 million RuneScape gold pieces for $27.50 USD". It's completely stupid

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, but I must correct you. The price of 1million GP on runescape is 10 bucks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT. I dont see how they can make good money with that. 10 bucks each mil, thats not much...

[Mayjest]

While macroing rarely affects me (I do not macro, and I get all my raw materials myself) it is clearly something detrimental to the game as a whole. So we need to get rid of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clearly, banning macros as we see them (and according to Jagex they're clearing 100s of these bots a day) isn't working. Which means we need to remove the incentive for these people to do it. We need to make autoing a non-profit exercise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, how you would do that, I have no idea. Perhaps someone with more business and macro-ing sense could?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I have thought of a way of getting rid of a whole lot of these characters. How many of those just in it for the money will care about quests? Not many at all. So, if Jagex has a database of all players, just search for those with little or no quest points, but high level supply skills (to the exclusivity of others). I.e., if all they've done is woodcut and mine, they will be found and banned.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, it sounds simple, but it's probably not in practise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*EDIT* Of course, this will be included with the random days before banning, so people cannot work out what got them detected.

[AirlessWig]

Here's some proof of gpfarmers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He tries to beat around the bush but it's kind of obvious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll translate.

 

 

 

It's in Mandarin, as I am Chinese, it's my mothertongue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blue font for Sweijie

 

 

 

Red font for Forceforce0 (farmer)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chatbox area left side

 

 

 

Sweijie: How much do you earn a day?

 

 

 

Forceforce0: 20 Yuan (20 RMB Currency of China. Works to around 4 Singapore Dollars or 2.50 US Dollars)

 

 

 

Sweijie: So you guys just kill dragons all day?

 

 

 

Forceforce0: Yes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chatbox area right side

 

 

 

Sweijie: How old are you?

 

 

 

*tries to go around the silly censor*

 

 

 

*succeeds*

 

 

 

Forceforce0: 17

 

 

 

Forceforce0: You?

 

 

 

*Of course I'm not saying.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pasted chats starting from top.

 

 

 

Sweijie: How do you earn money?

 

 

 

Forceforce: Selling bones.

 

 

 

Sweijie: So you earn 20 Yuan a day?

 

 

 

Forceforce0: Yes

 

 

 

Forceforce0: Yes

 

 

 

Forceforce0: Correct, I earn 20 yuan a day

 

 

 

Sweijie: Doing what?

 

 

 

Forceforce0: It's 20 RMB(Ren min bi) not 20 yuan (it's the same)

 

 

 

Sweijie: Selling dragon bones and you get 20 yuan/RMB?

 

 

 

Forceforce0: Yes

 

 

 

Forceforce0: *explaining to me some words that is used in China and not here, irrelevant*

 

 

 

Sweijie: So how much have you earned in total?

 

 

 

Forceforce0: About 400 to 500 RMB/Yuan a month. You?

 

 

 

Forceforce0: *irrelevant*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He thinks I am a farmer as well. =/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, this explains why our dear dragon bone prices has been dropping and I dug more into the truth of teenagers working for people to get ingame resources.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I pity them somehow, this is their job. What they do to survive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Same goes for woodcutters, fishers, miners...

[Umega]

Very interesting Airless Wig, just goes to show that there are sweatshops working in Runescape, not just "Macroers".

[Zaafara]

Its kind of amazing how autos think they arent going to get caught..

 

 

 

Its fairly amazing how easy you can id them.

 

 

 

Bravo autos =D> (well not really..)

[no_way2go]

Recently on an alternate account, I set out to test the ability of these macros. There is a program that runs these "scripts" that other people program to do different things. Lots of them have weak spots. They also run on colors and logos. So, Jagex should change the logos and colors occasionally.

 

 

 

(...)

 

 

 

They are very smart so, most break easily but there is some that are super smart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just so you know: the colours change everytime you reload the java applet + the minimap symbols also change place everytime you log in.

 

 

 

:roll:

 

 

 

There is some truth in the rest what you are saying.

 

 

 

When scripts have weak spots it's because the lack of intelligence/insight of the author.

 

 

 

Intelligent people who auto on their main account occasionally are most likely never to get caught... It is possible to make a script where it isn't possible to tell for jagex that you are using one. Smooth mouse movements, random actions that you do, maybe even talking (altough this will more likely expose you since its hard to make an intelligent talker).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ps: I quitted the cheating scene a long time ago (+1 year) and never cheated on my main account that I got now O:)

[sprites]

We shouldn't be blaming the autoers/gold farmers for ruining the game. It's the rich kids who buy their in-game items for cash.

 

 

 

And if it gets any worse. New players won't have any choice but to buy their items from these people.