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  1. 1. Remove Post Counts ?

    • Yes - Remove
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    • No - Keep
      663
    • Keep - But only display in profile
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hrm more people seem to want to remove post count from the actual posts, than want to keep it there, whether it is keeping in profile or removing completely.

 

Yes - Remove 30% [ 57 ]

 

No - Keep 44% [ 82 ]

 

Umm...you need to check again.

 

Umm...you need to read again

 

 

 

Yes - Remove - 30%[ 61 ]

 

No - Keep - 46%[ 94 ]

 

Keep - But only display in profile - 23%[ 47 ]

 

 

 

61 + 47 > 94

Grouping ANY of the two options together is just biased against the 3rd.

 

 

 

Why would you add a remove and a keep option? If anything the two keep options should be grouped, so 94 + 47 > 61.

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THe karma system would be abused I think because of the fact that people would try to hurt others' karma based on subjective things, like if two people were debating one might try to report the others' post on the basis of "it's not right!!111oneone" I think we should keep the post count; I don't judge others by it, but if I see a person who is particularly stupid, clueless, needlessly mean or a combination thereof, I glance at their post count - if it is low then I can safely assume that it is a newbie acting up, if it is high then it's somebody with a problem.

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Why would you add a remove and a keep option? Grouping ANY of the two options together is just biased against the 3rd.

 

 

 

If anything the two keep options should be grouped, so 94 + 47 > 61.

 

Your not understanding what I was meaning.

 

More people want the post count removed from showing next to every post than people that don't

 

I'm sure everyone who chose the 'remove' option would rather have post counts relegated to profile only than have them stay the same.

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First let me state that the opinions I post here are my own, and do not represent Tip.It.

 

That gamefaqs thing is so worthless, how you have to come there for like a month straight just be be able to post more then 3 times a day :-X
:shock: :shock: This is pure genius, I wish more forums had this type of ability.

 

 

 

It is a fundamental (and documented) part of forum etiquette to LURK (that means reading a forum and NOT posting) for several WEEKS before beginning to post. The first of these articles is over ten years old:

 

http://www.newsreaders.com/guide/netiquette.html

 

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/emily-postnews/part1/

 

 

 

Actually reading the forums helps newbies learn what has already been posted a million times, and where to look for answers to questions. This would hopefully prevent over-excited posts by newbies repeating the same clueless things over and over. ("Hello! I'm here! Look at me! Where do I find Runescape?")

 

 

 

Knowing what has already been said helps users to recognize whether they actually have something new and valuable to say. (This is not directed at any of the posters here, who are obviously contributing to an intelligent debate. Just to be clear.)

 

 

 

Back on topic, I voted to put post count in profiles (where others could click to the profile to see it, I hope). Just last week I found a user spamming up a board who had accumulated 148 posts in ONE DAY. Each of these posts skirted the edge of being "meaningful". They were actually on topic (not "me too"), but not adding anything useful. I reported her to the mods, of course. What other motivation could there be for this nonsense besides post count?

 

 

 

Again let me repeat that the opinions I post here are my own, and do not represent Tip.It.

 

 

 

If you look at my join date, I've been LURKing in the TIF longer (11 Dec 2004) than Bloodveld and Trojann have even been here. Now, just because I have (at time of posting) 32 posts, it *DOES NOT* mean that I am a TIF newcomer. Postcount should not be used to judge reliablility and respect, quality of posts and join date should. Pokemama is RIGHT ON with her comments.

You act like the game community is like the stinking bowels of hell.... In all reality.. its much.. much... worse.

 

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Why would you add a remove and a keep option? If anything the two keep options should be grouped, so 94 + 47 > 61.

 

 

 

The 'no change' option is separate from the other two because THE OTHER TWO SUPPORT A CHANGE TO THE SYSTEM!

Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be.

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I say keep them- they add a nice bit of flavour and I have yet to sea spammer.

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Personally, I believe this poll is a tad pointless.

 

 

 

According to what I've read, the post count had been around for a while and was then removed. The forums then went through a time without post counts before bringing them back. Now we're holding a poll on whether or not to remove them yet again.

 

 

 

Honestly, what's to stop this turning into an endless cycle of "post count polls/tweaks"? Human nature is to be dissatisfied with one's current circumstances. This is meant to encourage continuous growth and improvement, but things often get out of hand in this regard (post count issue being a prime example).

 

 

 

The only viable solution I see is for the forum admins and mods to discuss the problem, decide for themselves what to do with the post count, and stand by that decision indefinitely. Whining brats want to cry about it and/or leave the forums completely over it? Let them. I say each person that leaves over the end result is merely an invitation for that "void" to be filled by people actually willing to overlook such insignificant details and make meaningful contributions (to the best of their ability).

 

 

 

Obviously for each batch of new forum members that join to fill that "void" you're going to have a few bad apples. This applies regardless of which way the poll/decision goes. It's because it won't make much a difference to me that I won't mind either way, but I would prefer it be removed so that (if nothing else) it would lessen the workload for the mods in that they'd no longer have to deal with post count spammers (and so we don't have to sift through their posts in a topic to get to something worthwhile).

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More people want the post count removed from showing next to every post than people that don't

 

I'm sure everyone who chose the 'remove' option would rather have post counts relegated to profile only than have them stay the same.

Ah, I see what you mean, but I'm also sure that everyone who chose the 'keep' option would also prefer to have it relocated then to have it removed. Also, who knows? Maybe the people who chose to have it moved to profile would still prefer to have it on the side then have it removed all together. Maybe they still want to view their own post counts but think it would be better suited to viewing in the profile.

 

 

 

I'm sticking with "Grouping ANY of the two options together is just biased against the 3rd". There's 3 options for a reason; none of them should be combined.

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Oh god...

 

 

 

Having one poll to say "Keep the post counts the way they are/Change them in some way" then having another once the latter option won to say "Remove them entirely/Show only in profiles" would have the same effect - aside from letting those whose choice didn't prevail in the first poll to vote in the second.

 

 

 

People who want no change vote for no change. People who want a change vote for the change that they support, this way it can be done in one poll and the distribution of people who want a change and those who don't want a change is exactly the same.

 

 

 

Tell me how it is biased. I've just explained how it isn't, now you tell me how it is.

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Oh god...

 

 

 

Having one poll to say "Keep the post counts the way they are/Change them in some way" then having another once the latter option won to say "Remove them entirely/Show only in profiles" would have the same effect - aside from letting those whose choice didn't prevail in the first poll to vote in the second.

Yes, yes, using the Lord's name in vain sure proves your point. :roll:

 

 

 

The fact stands that there's more votes for keeping the post count then either removing it, and until you address my previous point and give me a decent counterpoint, I'm not going to be swayed.

 

 

 

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People who want no change vote for no change. People who want a change vote for the change that they support, this way it can be done in one poll and the distribution of people who want a change and those who don't want a change is exactly the same.

 

 

 

Tell me how it is biased. I've just explained how it isn't, now you tell me how it is.

The poll has THREE OPTIONS. People voting for relocating it are not voting for removing it altogether. You are assuming that they are, which is biased.

 

 

 

More people want the post count removed from showing next to every post than people that don't

 

I'm sure everyone who chose the 'remove' option would rather have post counts relegated to profile only than have them stay the same.

Ah, I see what you mean, but I'm also sure that everyone who chose the 'keep' option would also prefer to have it relocated then to have it removed. Also, who knows? Maybe the people who chose to have it moved to profile would still prefer to have it on the side then have it removed all together. Maybe they still want to view their own post counts but think it would be better suited to viewing in the profile.

 

 

 

I'm sticking with "Grouping ANY of the two options together is just biased against the 3rd". There's 3 options for a reason; none of them should be combined.

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Oh man, we've needed to get rid of those awful ranks for so long. Not only are spammers trying to get their count up annoying - but I hate those posts that say "What does chicken feather mean?" No more of those if we had no ranks!

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Oh god...

 

 

 

Having one poll to say "Keep the post counts the way they are/Change them in some way" then having another once the latter option won to say "Remove them entirely/Show only in profiles" would have the same effect - aside from letting those whose choice didn't prevail in the first poll to vote in the second.

 

 

 

People who want no change vote for no change. People who want a change vote for the change that they support, this way it can be done in one poll and the distribution of people who want a change and those who don't want a change is exactly the same.

 

 

 

Tell me how it is biased. I've just explained how it isn't, now you tell me how it is.

 

 

 

Your right, It's not biased. Thanks for explaining to people =D>

 

The poll is fine the way it is.

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Oh god...

 

 

 

Having one poll to say "Keep the post counts the way they are/Change them in some way" then having another once the latter option won to say "Remove them entirely/Show only in profiles" would have the same effect - aside from letting those whose choice didn't prevail in the first poll to vote in the second.

 

 

 

People who want no change vote for no change. People who want a change vote for the change that they support, this way it can be done in one poll and the distribution of people who want a change and those who don't want a change is exactly the same.

 

 

 

Tell me how it is biased. I've just explained how it isn't, now you tell me how it is.

 

 

 

That's perfect if you consider "Remove" can only win if it beats "Keep and hide" + "Keep entirely". I think that's that you're going to do, right?

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Oh god...

 

 

 

Having one poll to say "Keep the post counts the way they are/Change them in some way" then having another once the latter option won to say "Remove them entirely/Show only in profiles" would have the same effect - aside from letting those whose choice didn't prevail in the first poll to vote in the second.

 

 

 

People who want no change vote for no change. People who want a change vote for the change that they support, this way it can be done in one poll and the distribution of people who want a change and those who don't want a change is exactly the same.

 

 

 

Tell me how it is biased. I've just explained how it isn't, now you tell me how it is.

 

 

 

That's perfect if you consider "Remove" can only win if it beats "Keep and hide" + "Keep entirely". I think that's that you're going to do, right?

No, he's saying that "keep entirely" can only win if it beats "remove" + "keep but hide" :roll:

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I voted to remove post count. Pretty pointless now. Previously, it used to be a way to identify the older users, and it was very nice to have that around. Now, half of the board has over 3000 posts lol. They are officially useless.

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I think we should keep them because it shows how long some of us have been on here.

 

 

 

I thought that's what the join date was for... :?

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EDIT: Yikes, wrong button. Sorry. (The forums are quite laggy today, eh?)

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I am supporting getting rid of post counts, they are spam encouraging and annoying. Sure you can remove it and report it but that doesn't stop it. Plus whats the point, I rarley, if ever look at my rank and post count you know why?Because it doesn't matter to me.I'm here to socialise and make friends, not to see how high a rank I can get :|

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I say remove all the post counts. Just because I don't post often doesn't make me any less of a Tip.It'er, I've been a part of it since Scapeboard. Even if it is just every once in awhile

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What about those who created new accounts because the admins won't let them change their names and told them to just create new accounts instead?

 

 

 

Then you would still have to reset your post count so that point is moot. If your reason for wanting a post count is so people know how long you've been here - and I say that the join date should tell you that - then you getting a new account with a brand new post count AND a brand new joined date has nothing to do with the point at hand.

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Throw it into the profile.

 

 

 

I feel it would stop newbies from spamming to 50-100 posts just so they wouldn't look new, despite having joined two days earlier.

 

 

 

I know years back whenever I joined a forum, I would post on every active topic even if I didn't add anything to the conversation. I would do so just because you still have a sense of other members not taking you as serious as someone with 2000+ posts. I also feel that because you have a low post count some people may feel that your only a "temporary member" of the community.

 

 

 

Which is shown when someone with 2000 posts, posts a link everyone will visit. However, if someone with 200 posts, posts a link there will be 4 pages of people asking if the link is safe.

 

 

 

Here on TIF I've been an ACTIVE LURKER, since my join date, which was YEARS AGO. I just prefer to post when I feel I'm adding something to the conversation, instead of just agreeing with what has already been said.

 

 

 

Mind you, I'm also opposed to people just quoting another person and saying they agree. I don't really need to read 4 pages of quote pyramids for every original post. I have found that in topics covered with quote pyramids the first post (sometimes page) is read and then the last few recent. Very few people actually read the middle pages of a topic.

 

 

 

Do i think a removal of post count would solve these issues? I don't know, but I figure if it doesn't the post count can always be added again. But if we don't try it, we will never know if it helps at all.

 

Cheers to the 4 people that actually read this post.

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