Remove post counts

[D. V. Devnull]

i dont know if someone has put this yet, but maybe put a limit on how many words or letters they need in their posts for it to count? :D

 

 

 

Couldn't set it to more than 10 characters minimum safely.

 

Probably wouldn't work.

[Kanati]

Nothing to see here. Move along.

[honeo]

What about a point system like some of the other boards have? The longer your posts the more points you get?

 

 

 

Funny joke lol.

 

 

 

Now how would this decrease competition and what would the points be used for?

 

 

 

There could be a shop I guess, but this is a runescape fourm... not a "post, pick up your goddies, and post some more." This fourm is for posting about Runescape.

 

 

 

I for one want the post counts removed because they do not show anything. I do not post a lot and many people can see that because I have a low post count. But does that make me a noob? A person that cannot think rationally and post with common sense and correct grammer? Not really...

 

 

 

So post counts should be removed. And really be reviewed by when they joined, because thats how people have the most experience. Knowing the fourm and how it works... The rules, fourms names, admins, moderators, and things that make people mad.

 

 

 

In conclusion... Why judge people on post count.. Just because someone has a low post count does not mean they are inexperienced.

 

 

 

I vote to remove post counts.

 

 

 

-Honeo

[grin_king]

Interesting discussion indeed... been watching from a distance for a while now... got a couple of questions for those who are all for keeping the post counts...

 

 

 

One thing i've noticed is that most of you that want to keep post-count have been arguing that it's a good way of helping judge how to handle the content of a post, combined with a couple of other pieces of information like join date, etc. That's been the primary argument against, as far as I can tell.

 

 

 

How would moving post-count from the main forums into the individuals' Profile stop you from doing that ?? Yes, it's an extra click or two when you do want to check post-count of a user... but seriously, how often do you need to "investigate" a post that's made in order to respond to it ?

 

 

 

For those of us who use FireFox or any other tab-based browser, it's simple enough to open it in a new window in the background and continue reading, and deal with the new window as you please...

 

 

 

With regard to other "points" systems... anything that is "user run" is never going to work, for what I think are very obvious reasons.

 

 

 

A couple also mentioned setting the minimum number of characters required either for a post to count, or for it to be able to be submitted... all that's going to do is make the spammers type more... more smilie spam, more "zomg wthbbq!?!?!one1!?morespameheretomakethislongenough". So no, that's not really an option ;)

 

 

 

It's a little disappointing that so many are obviously not thinking outside the square a little, and going straight for the "keep it" option in the poll, when it's quite obvious from their posts that having it kept in the profile would quite easily satisfy most if not all of their arguments...

 

 

 

Oh well... looking forward to reading further debate on this. There ARE some good points coming out... I just hope that some of you are able to reason through your thoughts and make an informed, rather than knee-jerk, decision... in other words, before clicking on one of the options... be sure to think "What would this *really* mean to myself and the forums if this particular option happened ?" - something that should be done for ANY poll or other voting-type thing. All options should be considered fully before voting ;)

 

 

 

Mandatory disclaimer : All comments, suggestions, ideas and ham sandwiches are mine and mine alone, and do not reflect anything other than my own thoughts and ideas as a user of Tip.it

[Artie_900]

Voted to get rid of post counts. You don't need to look at a number to tell if someone's a moron or not, you can tell by the quality of their posts. There's plenty of idiots kicking around here with counts in the high thousands.

 

 

 

and good, active members of the forum won't be able to enjoy looking at their post count steadily increase.

 

What kind of person enjoys looking at their post count steadily increasing? That's like enjoying kissing your sister. If you want to watch numbers go up, get out a calculator. Only press the "reply" button if you have an actual thought to contribute. If you need a number to tell you that you're better than other posters, you aren't. (As pointed out by my avatar.)

 

 

 

You obviously haven't contributed as much to this forum as a 2k post counter has.

 

I'm going to spin a little metaphor for you here. Consider that while a pound of gold and a pound of pig feces are the same volume, one is worth significantly more than the other. But if you put an equal weight of both on a scale, it will read the same. I, of course, consider my posts to be pure gold, and there's some other posters here that aren't half bad. There are, however, plenty of posters with scarily high post counts whose posts are generally useless and bereft of punctuation. There's no sense in comparing the two.

 

 

 

You honestly think that when people post "+1" or just an emote that they are only doing it for post count? Laughing Trust me, without post count there will still be just as many spam posts. Just look at runehq, when they removed post count spamming actually increased.

 

Well, there's an easier way to solve that problem: anyone who does this should be banned. Instantly and without regard to any other factors. Worthless people that make worthless posts like this are never going to contribute anything useful to the forums, so why bother keeping them around?

 

 

 

When someone posts a download link (to a movie or maybe a POH designer or something of the sort), if you notice someone has a very low post count then that's a first clue that the person is untrustworthy. Now, your argument in this states that post count does not show how trustworthy someone is, but consider this: Who is more likely to post a keylogger?

 

It's not impossible that some crazy joker who's made a thousand posts could suddenly go rogue and post something malicious. Better solutions:

 

• [*:390usq4w]Wait two minutes for some hapless guinea pig to go running in and try it himself
   
  - OR -
   
  [*:390usq4w]Spend the time to actually secure your computer, so you can't catch a keylogger just by trying to play a movie. Honestly, it doesn't take that much effort and it's certainly worth it.

[Cruiser]

When someone posts a download link (to a movie or maybe a POH designer or something of the sort), if you notice someone has a very low post count then that's a first clue that the person is untrustworthy. Now, your argument in this states that post count does not show how trustworthy someone is, but consider this: Who is more likely to post a keylogger?

 

It's not impossible that some crazy joker who's made a thousand posts could suddenly go rogue and post something malicious. Better solutions:

 

• [*:phn2ksaf]Wait two minutes for some hapless guinea pig to go running in and try it himself
   
  - OR -
   
  [*:phn2ksaf]Spend the time to actually secure your computer, so you can't catch a keylogger just by trying to play a movie. Honestly, it doesn't take that much effort and it's certainly worth it.

 

 

 

I was going to reply to that, but couldn't find the quote (11:30pm, I'm tired).

 

 

 

High post count has zero to do with how trustworthy and reliable someone is. A certain ex-mod and super-merchant comes to mind.

 

 

 

I personally have a low post count and an early join date (for this incarnation of TIF). It again has zero to do with how I contribute here. I don't post because I hate most of the junk that's posted. Much of it has no use, but that's my opinion, and it usually ticks people off when I say it. I instead spend my time on IRC and add to the community from there (room issues aside. *prods admins*).

 

 

 

You can pick and prod at post count all you want, it still doesn't change the fact it's an arbitrary number counting how many times you clicked the submit button. Quality post, spam or not.

 

 

 

Albosky brought up the fact that post counts and thread views are the biggest factor when it comes to DB updates and so on.

 

 

 

feteching the row when reading posts of course wouldnt add any noticeable difference, but when a post is made , update queries are sent to 4 different tables, so posting would show an small improvement overall , especially during peak hours, when topic views were removed temporarily , table writes(updates) decreased by almost 50%

 

 

 

That alone should be reason enough to ditch both features on a forum this size, especially with all the performance issues it had a few months ago.

[Adam007]

I do think that the 'keep but remove' is kind of like a compromise vote, and grin, it sounds like you're leaning towards that (btw, nice to see you posting a bit :P ), but in fairness I think if any further steps are taken it should be a new poll of keeping or moving them to profiles, not directly moving towards action.

 

By moving post counts to profiles in a way that's practically removing them. Nobody's going to really investigate people like that. I think the situation's fine and people are just being oversenstive to the issue. Of course I have my own personal bias, but 99% of my posts are pretty long and I just like a visual of that.

 

I mean in some cases of people who used to be really active well known posters who come back and nobody knows them, they might be seen and acted towards like newcomers, which isn't the case, and their postcount shows that.

 

Most forums do have postcounts. I think these people are being overly sensitive to a nice feature that most forums have and don't seem to think is a problem.

[Faux]

Make it so Mods/Admins are the only ones who can change a person's reputation 'rank'

[Guest]

A couple also mentioned setting the minimum number of characters required either for a post to count, or for it to be able to be submitted... all that's going to do is make the spammers type more... more smilie spam, more "zomg wthbbq!?!?!one1!?morespameheretomakethislongenough". So no, that's not really an option :wink:

 

 

 

Well if you find that is the case then use the "Ban Button!" I for one wasn't, one of the people supporting this in my posts, but I do believe it may work. It will stop people from posting short rubbish threads, and hopefully in that case they will put more effort and thought into their posts.

 

 

 

And if they continue to write rubbish posts, then warn them at first and then ban them. Who needs them on the forums anyway? They can go over to that Circus at Runehq. :wink:

[ValaraZ]

I don't like this idea; to me it represented (and allways will) that when someone with high post count and well-known (like trix and hohto) posted in my thread i believed them easier than guys who are unknown and 2 post count. It brings authority to them.

[jim_smith3]

I think it should be removed. Not because I have a low post count, but I mean, how many times have you seen a person post a one word message?

 

 

 

Examples:

 

 

 

lol

 

yeah

 

rofl

 

 

 

Stuff like that...

 

 

 

It's spam.

 

 

 

If you don't have something more than a word to type, don't type anything at all.

[Adam007]

I think it should be removed. Not because I have a low post count, but I mean, how many times have you seen a person post a one word message?

 

 

 

Examples:

 

 

 

lol

 

yeah

 

rofl

 

 

 

Stuff like that...

 

 

 

It's spam.

 

 

 

If you don't have something more than a word to type, don't type anything at all.

 

I rarely see those and with the new report system most are removed anyway. I don't think having post counts is the sole source for that anyways.

 

And I agree with ValaraZ. Newer members probably won't know of trixstar or hohto because they don't post often anymore and without their post counts they seem like other regular users - in most cases (not all) it's a sign of credibility and that you've been around and are (have been) a committed tip it user.

[Sunspeak]

I guess I personally don't see the problem since I stick mainly to the AS forums and spamming *usually* isn't a concern there. If it's really a problem on the other forums, I would suggest more of a crackdown on those people that do spam. People are going to spam regardless of whether there's post counts or not. The only real deterrent is punishment. Of course then there would be arguments of favoritism etc. on what might be considered spam and why one person gets a warning while another doesn't, but that's why we're Mods/Admins...to be as fair as possible to everyone (regardless of post count and based on merit of posts). It may cause extra work in the beginning, but once the groundwork was laid, the spamming should reduce greatly.

 

 

 

I can see how removing the post counts may actually add to the spam. If someone posts asking for something and gets a reply from someone they don't know, the original poster may post again just to ask others to post to say if they are trustworthy or not. Or if someone posts a link to something, there may be long discussions from different posters on whether the original poster can be trusted or not. Post counts can give a slight indication in these matters which could reduce the follow-up spam.

 

 

 

Personally I see both sides, to an extent. Some of the arguments made are just silly while others have merit. Since there seems to be a compromise of keeping post counts but moving them to the profile, doesn't that seem to be the most logical way to go about this?

[Wilmot]

Keep it IMO.

 

 

 

What it does is shows how active a person is, which is something I like to see. Also it allows you to respond better to a person by knowing if that post was their 1st or their 1000th. Both deserving of respect but seeing the post count lets you know the best way to express that.

[Albosky]

I'm sorry but as a forum USER , not an admin , I still dont feel that post count should be used a judgement factor on someones "trustworthyness".

 

 

 

If somebody posts a link and you dont trust it or dont know how to keep your computer safe , DONT CLICK ON IT.

 

 

 

Lets take 2 long time users , I'll even use admins as an example ...

 

 

 

Lightning - 1195 posts , co-owner of tip.it , third person ever to sign up for Runescape

 

 

 

Sunli - 8765 posts , obviously more knowledgeable about RS, TIF, and everything else because OMG SHE HAS POSTED 8x AS MUCH!!!!

 

 

 

It holds no water. (not that Sunli isn't as sharp as a tack :) )

 

 

 

The other main arguement here is "I dont see that many spam posts in an attempt to raise post count".... Do you browse EVERY forum, EVERY topic ? Well, I doubt it , but our moderators pretty much do , and you would prolly puke at the amount of posts that have to be removed.

 

 

 

"harsher penalties - ban the spammers" - We already have WELL OVER FIVE THOUSAND ENTRIES in our ban system (pathetic). With the amount of work she does around here I would guess that over 2000 of Sunli's posts are bans alone. We dont want to have to keep banning people and then rebanning them , etc .. When would enough be enough ?

 

 

 

Just dont jump on the Admin team for bringing this whole subject up , this is a USER started topic, which already had 5 pages of discussion before the decision to poll it and let the users decide was made.

 

 

 

But I will throw some figures out just to back up my performance claim as thats my reasoning for being for the total removal of post counts (and topic views)

 

In the month of June , TIF grossed roughly 56 MILLION page hits (forum only , not the helpsite) , ~48,000 new topics were posted , and ~150,000 individual posts were entered into the database. So thats roughly 56.2 MILLION disk writes to update a stupid counter. As it stands right now , our database service was last restarted for maintenance 6 days ago , and already has logged over 30 million database queries. Would you rather have a post count and topic view count, or would you rather have forums that dont lag when 400 people are all clicking links to read a post ?

 

 

 

:P

[Doomster]

Most forums seem to manage quite well with post counts. While it's not a perfect measure, on most forums, it helps to identify the typical "drive-by spammer" who makes a post or 2 before getting banned.

 

 

 

Reputation systems, be they positive only or +/-, suffer from the twin problems of apathy and manipulation.

 

 

 

 

 

One thing some other forums have, is a displayed warn/black mark level for users, so others can see if they have been behaving themselves

[D. V. Devnull]

One thing some other forums have, is a displayed warn/black mark level for users, so others can see if they have been behaving themselves

 

 

 

Might help. Shames the bad, Praises the good. Problem is, it can be manipulated by Mods/Admins... :( ...And even I know as a Forum Mod/Admin on other sites that it can be tough to not black-mark someone by accident or for that matter turn manipulative. Keeping it professional is and always will be a pain in the rear. :(

[Bloodveld]

One thing i've noticed is that most of you that want to keep post-count have been arguing that it's a good way of helping judge how to handle the content of a post, combined with a couple of other pieces of information like join date, etc. That's been the primary argument against, as far as I can tell.

 

 

 

How would moving post-count from the main forums into the individuals' Profile stop you from doing that ?? Yes, it's an extra click or two when you do want to check post-count of a user... but seriously, how often do you need to "investigate" a post that's made in order to respond to it ?

 

 

 

For those of us who use FireFox or any other tab-based browser, it's simple enough to open it in a new window in the background and continue reading, and deal with the new window as you please...

Simply put, it takes longer. Now, I know what you're thinking; What a lazy punk! But in truth, I read hundreds of topics a day, and possibly thousands of replies. Clicking a link (which btw clicking the person's name should link you to the profile) to a profile to view a post count doesn't seem that hard when you have to do it once, but having to do it hundreds or thousands of times a day? It over complicates things. Now, this is a good backup idea, but I don't see the point in it.

 

 

 

Mandatory disclaimer : All comments, suggestions, ideas and ham sandwiches are mine and mine alone, and do not reflect anything other than my own thoughts and ideas as a user of Tip.it

I've said it before and I'll say it again: COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA!!! :lol:

 

 

 

and good, active members of the forum won't be able to enjoy looking at their post count steadily increase.

 

What kind of person enjoys looking at their post count steadily increasing? That's like enjoying kissing your sister. If you want to watch numbers go up, get out a calculator. Only press the "reply" button if you have an actual thought to contribute. If you need a number to tell you that you're better than other posters, you aren't. (As pointed out by my avatar.)

 

1) You're a cocky, egotistical twit.

 

2) If you would have quoted my whole post and read it in content, you would have seen that I was talking about how good members watch as their post count increases with every positive contribution to a forum, and become a record of poisitive achievement.

 

 

 

You obviously haven't contributed as much to this forum as a 2k post counter has.

 

I'm going to spin a little metaphor for you here. Consider that while a pound of gold and a pound of pig feces are the same volume, one is worth significantly more than the other. But if you put an equal weight of both on a scale, it will read the same. I, of course, consider my posts to be pure gold, and there's some other posters here that aren't half bad. There are, however, plenty of posters with scarily high post counts whose posts are generally useless and bereft of punctuation. There's no sense in comparing the two.

I have yet to read one post from you that is half-way decent, let alone "pure gold". I'm not sure why you worship yourself so much, but it's pretty clear that you have nothing to back it up. I'm reminded of a certain topic on the blogscape forum...

 

 

 

You honestly think that when people post "+1" or just an emote that they are only doing it for post count? Laughing Trust me, without post count there will still be just as many spam posts. Just look at runehq, when they removed post count spamming actually increased.

 

Well, there's an easier way to solve that problem: anyone who does this should be banned. Instantly and without regard to any other factors. Worthless people that make worthless posts like this are never going to contribute anything useful to the forums, so why bother keeping them around?

Yeah, banning anyone who spams at all would be a perfect idea. [/sarcasm] :roll:

 

 

 

When someone posts a download link (to a movie or maybe a POH designer or something of the sort), if you notice someone has a very low post count then that's a first clue that the person is untrustworthy. Now, your argument in this states that post count does not show how trustworthy someone is, but consider this: Who is more likely to post a keylogger?

 

It's not impossible that some crazy joker who's made a thousand posts could suddenly go rogue and post something malicious. Better solutions:

 

• [*:1o24u3rb]Wait two minutes for some hapless guinea pig to go running in and try it himself
   
  - OR -
   
  [*:1o24u3rb]Spend the time to actually secure your computer, so you can't catch a keylogger just by trying to play a movie. Honestly, it doesn't take that much effort and it's certainly worth it.

As I've already posted multiple times, not all high post counter is some brave and noble hero, and there's always some bad eggs. I really don't feel like repeating myself again, so just search through this topic, you're royal egotisticness.

 

 

 

Voted to get rid of post counts. You don't need to look at a number to tell if someone's a moron or not, you can tell by the quality of their posts. There's plenty of idiots kicking around here with counts in the high thousands.

Looks like there's an idiot with a few hundred posts right here.

 

 

 

I think it should be removed. Not because I have a low post count, but I mean, how many times have you seen a person post a one word message?

 

 

 

Examples:

 

 

 

lol

 

yeah

 

rofl

 

 

 

Stuff like that...

 

 

 

It's spam.

 

 

 

If you don't have something more than a word to type, don't type anything at all.

How does this have anything to do for post count? Remember: this is a runescape forum. Most people that come here are lazy runescape players, of course people are going to occasionally post useless nonsense.

 

 

 

And I agree with ValaraZ. Newer members probably won't know of trixstar or hohto because they don't post often anymore and without their post counts they seem like other regular users - in most cases (not all) it's a sign of credibility and that you've been around and are (have been) a committed tip it user.

Exactly. Without post counts, everyone looks like a new user, when people who have spent hundreds of hours here helping new users and adding to conversations deserve to be recognized at least slightly.

 

 

 

I'm sorry but as a forum USER , not an admin , I still dont feel that post count should be used a judgement factor on someones "trustworthyness".

 

 

 

If somebody posts a link and you dont trust it or dont know how to keep your computer safe , DONT CLICK ON IT.

 

 

 

Lets take 2 long time users , I'll even use admins as an example ...

 

 

 

Lightning - 1195 posts , co-owner of tip.it , third person ever to sign up for Runescape

 

 

 

Sunli - 8765 posts , obviously more knowledgeable about RS, TIF, and everything else because OMG SHE HAS POSTED 8x AS MUCH!!!!

 

 

 

It holds no water. (not that Sunli isn't as sharp as a tack :) )

But both members that you gave as your example are both 1k post counters and recognized members of this forum.

 

 

 

Anyway, the "don't click EVER" idea works, but I'm just stating (once again...) that it's a good record of a person's character as all their posts are recorded and on easy access.

 

 

 

The other main arguement here is "I dont see that many spam posts in an attempt to raise post count".... Do you browse EVERY forum, EVERY topic ? Well, I doubt it , but our moderators pretty much do , and you would prolly puke at the amount of posts that have to be removed.

You would be surprised. Now, I know I don't read every forum, but in gen p2p I read almost all the posts, but that's not all. I own a decently active forum and am an admin or mod on quite a few other forums. I know how bad posts can get, and how many of them there are. (and I doubt I'd puke ;))

 

 

 

~Bloodveld

[Artie_900]

Simply put, it takes longer. Now, I know what you're thinking; What a lazy punk! But in truth, I read hundreds of topics a day, and possibly thousands of replies. Clicking a link (which btw clicking the person's name should link you to the profile) to a profile to view a post count doesn't seem that hard when you have to do it once, but having to do it hundreds or thousands of times a day? It over complicates things. Now, this is a good backup idea, but I don't see the point in it.

 

You don't need to verify that the person in question is a good and righteous individual by checking their postcount for every single reply you read. If you see a reply that consists, in full, of that god-awful smiley with the wagging finger, you're not going to hold judgement until you see whether the user has a post count of six or six thousand. You're going to immediately decide that they should be kicked in the teeth. Conversely, if someone posts a reasonable, well-thought out idea, you don't need to make sure that their post count is high enough before you accept it.

 

 

 

1) You're a cocky, egotistical twit.

 

2) If you would have quoted my whole post and read it in content, you would have seen that I was talking about how good members watch as their post count increases with every positive contribution to a forum, and become a record of poisitive achievement.

 

Oh man, kitten has claws.

 

 

 

You don't need to watch a number increase to record "poisitive" contribute to a forum, the contributions and discourse contained within should be your motivating factor. Even if you're making brilliant replies, if you're making brilliant replies to watch a number go up by one, you're not doing it for the right reason, and it's highly unlikely your replies are that brilliant in the first place.

 

 

 

Yeah, banning anyone who spams at all would be a perfect idea. [/sarcasm]

 

Thank you for taking the time to identify your sarcasm for me! However, sarcasm does not an argument make. You failed to identify why banning anyone who spams at all would be a bad idea, which I presume was the idea you were trying to express. I say it's a good idea because it would eliminate so much of the useless chaff you see in every thread. You say it's a bad idea because... ? (It is a mystery!)

 

 

 

Remember: this is a runescape forum. Most people that come here are lazy runescape players, of course people are going to occasionally post useless nonsense.

 

That doesn't mean it has to be tolerated.

 

 

 

Without post counts, everyone looks like a new user, when people who have spent hundreds of hours here helping new users and adding to conversations deserve to be recognized at least slightly.

 

Who are you people that read a person's post then have to go look at their post count to decide if it's valid or not? I can honestly say I've never done that once. All you need to judge is the post. It's not hard to tell if it's a good post or not: common identifying marks of a good post are correct spelling and punctuation and well-thought out and efficiently expressed ideas. Big numbers, on the other hand, are not.

 

 

 

I have yet to read one post from you that is half-way decent, let alone "pure gold". I'm not sure why you worship yourself so much, but it's pretty clear that you have nothing to back it up.

 

Check the avatar, hombre. All the backup I need.

[ldb88]

You do realize that by splitting the pro-post count votes (by giving them two options) they are lowering the chance that either will win. Say 45% vote for no post count. 44% vote for post count to stay like it is. The remaining votes (11%) are to only have post count in profile. That means that 55% of the voters want post counting in some way or another, but the 45% no post count was the highest and would win. Just pointing it out....

[Viv]

. Would you rather have a post count and topic view count, or would you rather have forums that dont lag when 400 people are all clicking links to read a post ?

 

 

 

:P

post count and view count. post count because you can see how activew a user is. if you go to a different forum then usual(that counts) then you see a person and if they have a high post count then you can look them up if they do not then they may just be a wonderer that is not a regular in that forum. plus i think that the ranking system is quite.

 

 

 

views that is to measer like if you only have like 3 people posting it is a necessity to see if they acually read your topic or did not read past the topic.

 

 

 

i rather keep them both.

[D. V. Devnull]

You do realize that by splitting the pro-post count votes (by giving them two options) they are lowering the chance that either will win. Say 45% vote for no post count. 44% vote for post count to stay like it is. The remaining votes (11%) are to only have post count in profile. That means that 55% of the voters want post counting in some way or another, but the 45% no post count was the highest and would win. Just pointing it out....

 

 

 

Heh... Been mentioned... Maybe you didn't see the earlier post in this thread about that? This was the only way to stop odd-balled manipulation.

[Bubsa]

http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=497291

 

 

 

If that's not a reason enough to get rid of ranks I don't know what is.

[Adam007]

http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=497291

 

 

 

If that's not a reason enough to get rid of ranks I don't know what is.

 

I don't think the community would mind losing the rank above our avatars if it meant keeping our post counts.

[Bloodveld]

http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=497291

 

 

 

If that's not a reason enough to get rid of ranks I don't know what is.

 

I don't think the community would mind losing the rank above our avatars if it meant keeping our post counts.

I second the opinion, even though I've always wanted a cool rank like "Bloodveld Tongue". :P

 

 

 

EDIT: @ the egotist:

 

Your argument was hard to read past your big head, but basicially you are saying that a good person's every post is going to be perfect. Not true.

 

 

 

And just because you are pathetic enough to call yourself good in your avatar doesn't mean it's true. :roll: *coughmoroncough*

 

 

 

You don't need to watch a number increase to record "poisitive" contribute to a forum, the contributions and discourse contained within should be your motivating factor. Even if you're making brilliant replies, if you're making brilliant replies to watch a number go up by one, you're not doing it for the right reason, and it's highly unlikely your replies are that brilliant in the first place.

I never said that the reason that I make good posts was for a high post count. :roll: You are completely missing the point. #-o Maybe only a selfless person can understand what I mean, you know, someone who doesn't worship himself in his avvy. :roll:

 

 

 

You failed to identify why banning anyone who spams at all would be a bad idea, which I presume was the idea you were trying to express. I say it's a good idea because it would eliminate so much of the useless chaff you see in every thread. You say it's a bad idea because... ? (It is a mystery!)

Common sense is all the reason I need. You are the only idiot I've ever seen that thinks a spam post is worth a banning. I seriously hope you are joking about this, otherwise you truly are an idiot.