la la la Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I killed infernal mages with my friend. I used bones to peaches and he used guthans, and he is 12 cb levels higher than me. I was hitting much more and had a higher health all the time than him almost all the time (mainly because I was whipping and he had warspear). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirgatory Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 if your needing hp and your killing monsters just safe spot and blood blitz or switch to range( at drags,hell hounds, and many others) Wow, that is a creative way to heal, although can be expensive. I like it :) The only problem is you're on ancients when you cast it, and you don't have your normal spellbook for regular uses. Anyway, I supposed everyone here that prefers guthans over B2P probably don't use it often, but I have been using it a lot and will swear by it instead of a set of armor, due to how efficient i've found it :P I killed infernal mages with my friend. I used bones to peaches and he used guthans, and he is 12 cb levels higher than me. I was hitting much more and had a higher health all the time than him almost all the time (mainly because I was whipping and he had warspear). Edit: So you CAN compare guthans to B2P, here is significant evidence of it's power. Although these are infernal mages where you need dhide, it is still significant. My old signature had to do with PKing the classic way.Unfortunately, that is no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgnslyer_15 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 i use guthan bc it saves time while training. Instead of banking every couple hundred monsters i stay out longer thus gettin more exp per trip RSN: drgnslyer15 15 skills 90+ - 10 skills 99 - 200m+ total exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikerkid Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Lazy to bank Quit RuneScape :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirgatory Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 erkid"]Lazy to bank i use guthan bc it saves time while training. Instead of banking every couple hundred monsters i stay out longer thus gettin more exp per trip I think both of you failed to read my entire post, lol :P The whole reason I am comparing bones to peaches to guthans is because it serves the same purpose, without the waiting for a special set effect. No offense, but input towards the thesis of the topic would have been better ;) My old signature had to do with PKing the classic way.Unfortunately, that is no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrant_iv Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 No food, 'nuff said. did you get guthans jesse? you said something bout not being able to wait to get it in your merchanting guide thread... well if you have, congrats! as for me, i dont have the money , and i dont think i have the def lvl yet.... i do have a whip though, but that has no place in this topic :cry: i suppose it depends on what your fighting with it, i mean, you might wanna use b2p on say...a lvl 90's monster which will only hit you for a couple, but if you wanted to train slayer or fighting for big drops then it's going to hit you hard and you'll need guthuns, this is probably pretty obvious though. personally i'd go guthuns becuase you can regain the money selling it, or if you dont then you still have 9m worth of armour , b2p would just keep eating away more and more money.depends how much the extra mage xp means to you. also you could just keep on fighting for ages on high hitting monsters with guthuns and its good for the fight caves, and b2p isnt going to get you anywhere in the fight caves lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmasta13 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 So far the only thing B2P is useful for is desert bandits and infernal mages. Well, that's all I've tried it on. The problem is, if you get hit for 11 damage killing a monster to get one bone that heals 8 points, your still losing 3 points per monster. So you'll eventually have to bank. Still, better then having to gain 3.2m of bank worth to get guthans. >. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooferfish Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Bones to peaches doesn't make you look like a spear weilding fat person, guthans wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssxisfun1 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I see your point, thats good observing but the ppl who only use melee and dont have a high mage i would say go for guthans but if u have the lvls for it i say its all about the opinion in what u want to do. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celluzion Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Dagannoth Kings Known formerly as Ameoba3000. Now known as Vigoss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojann2 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 B2P can not be used on big and ragon bones, only normal bones. But still, I really don't think guthans is worth the cash for everyday training. I find it to be much less hassle to just bank every few hours for more food than it is to switch armor every 15 minutes or so. Pfft, Noob :) Guthans is the ULTIMATE Slayer Tool. Knowledge Talks| | Wisdom Listens~~Heroes Get Remembered, But Legends Never Die~~Xbox Live & Playstation Network Name: Trojann2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedom1 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I am a huge fan of bones to peaches, but overall guthans is MUCH more efficient. If you're smart about the way you do your inventory, it'll work just fine using food/guthans/bones to peaches or all three. So many people are afraid of the repair costs with guthans assuming they are going to wear it the full time slaying. Me? -DEPENDING ON TASK- I wear rune body, dragon legs/shield, etc and switch to guthans to heal. This way I don't wear down the guthans (as rune/dragon works just fine with 90 def.) Personally if you're on the fence, buy the Guthans. It's the only sane way to truly level slayer (given all the slayer monsters in the tower, etc.) If you have the patience, do bones to peaches - as it's the best way to slay dust devils/ bloodvelds/ etc... RSN: Greedom1 | QP 248+ | Combat 116 | Total 1920+ | Skills 95 craft, 99 farm, 88 herb, 91 mage, 85 slayer Values? What do they mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onauric Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I only use b2p when meleeing dusts and that's pretty much it, besides I usually just range them when I get task. And the more you stay somewhere and train the more less usefull the b2p becomes unless of course you don't collect any drops. :P Also there aren't really that many high lvl slayer assignments where monsters drop normal bones. Only hellhounds could in theory be effective with b2p as they only drop bones (+clue), but who seriously wants to eat some peaches while the hound is eating you... As said the Guthans are an investment and when getting high slayer lvls then imho I think that using food would cost more. Rsn: Onauric Combat: 136 Total: 2150+ All quests done since: 3rd December 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codguy Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 How about maybe... Wait for it... BOTH. They're both great, Bones to Peaches are a lot cheaper, but can only be used with regular bones and low hitting monsters. Guthans is faster in general, and only takes up a few spots (The peaches will take up spots), it also is great for Slayer, it makes things go faster. But then there's other things, such as Dust Devils, and magic-based melee attacks. So why not a combination? If you have the money, definitely Guthans, if you have the patience to get Bones to Peaches, get it. Then combine them. If you're killing something (such as in Slayer) where Bones to Peaches work a lot better, use that. If there's something that Guthans would be perfect for, use that. So both, I don't have Bones to Peaches, nor Guthans (money supply is low) but I'll be able to buy back my Guthans and I'll go get that handy spell someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkjab Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Not only is Guthan great for health, but it also beats B2P for defensive purposes too, it's got a decent range defence for if you were fighting Dagganoths for slayer etc. Guthan is highly efficient Slayer armour :) and it's also FANTASTIC for barrows, by the time i'll of gotten my armour to the verge of breaking, I'll atleast have 5mill + from just bloods, chaos and bolt racks. It's wonderful! I am wanting to get B2P though for when I get back to the Dusties, TC you say it cost's about 900k to get it...errr, fancy telling me roughly how many of each runes that is :) at a rough guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchdreams Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the cut-down in repair costs for guthan's armor you can achieve by repairing it on the armor stand in your (or someone elses) POH. Don't pin me down on the numbers, but if memory serves me right, a level 99 smith can cut the repair cost that good ol' Lumby Bob the axe man would charge, to half. So, I'm guessing a lvl 75 smith should be able to cut back 25% of repair costs. May not seem much, but it's certainly worth taking into account when it comes down to finances ;) Anyways, if you like slayer, guthans is the way to go. Especially if you get higher level slayer, the only tasks I can think of that guthans has a clear advantage over B2P are dust devils, infernal mages, turoths. The rest of the tasks, B2P can't be used (demons/dragons/fire giants/kalphite (soldiers)), or are better done ranging/maging in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumpta Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I have neither *gasp, I smell the noob-comments coming from miles* and still managed to get 79 slayer so far. I slay with a full inventory of monkfish (fished myself and home cooked). It rarely happens that I need to bank for food, I can do most tasks in one go (Lost City Master). If I do have to bank for food, my inventory is usually full with drops anyway. Maybe I'll get guthan's someday, but for now I like spending my cash on Miscellania and construction. I'm also halfway to get bones to peaches, because sometimes it can be annoying if you just need a few extra HP to finish your task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hevendor_Guy Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Dalcyte said it all on his post on the first page :) I may not have guthans set yet, but I'm working on it, only 3 pieces left :-w There's cake through here, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henk333 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I killed infernal mages with my friend. I used bones to peaches and he used guthans, and he is 12 cb levels higher than me. I was hitting much more and had a higher health all the time than him almost all the time (mainly because I was whipping and he had warspear). Edit: So you CAN compare guthans to B2P, here is significant evidence of it's power. Although these are infernal mages where you need dhide, it is still significant. This is in no way significant, using Guthans on mage based monsters is a bad idea anyway. Try comparing the two while fighting melee monsters that drop bones, like elves or daganoth. As mentioned before, even though Guthan is much more efficient, having both is the best tactic. You can use B2P on mage based monsters, like infernal mages and bloodveld and in places where you can't use Guthan, like at dustdevils. Another thing why Guthan is better then B2P is that it's actually good armor, far better then rune or dragon. I usually wear Guthan plate and legs with my slayer mask and whip. If you worry about repair costs, pretty much every slayer task pays for the repair costs and more. Haven't played RuneScape since 12 january 2007 and it feels great :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini193 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 i don't have it right now but I'm buying it soon. I'll be using so i don't need food for slayer and trainng Doing a little bit of everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Like so many others have said. Fantastic defence & bonus healing. Doesn't get any better lol. The repair charges are affordable, and it's way better than bones to peaches (which you can't use against many monsters anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadPolkaDots1 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 At the minute I can not afford Guthans. And I have never equiped a piece of Guthans armour before. I did trawl thorugh two days of harcore Mage Training Arena to get B2P however. I instantly went to see if it lived up to the hype, and my, it certainly did. :D I was training my Slayer to 65 back then, and it was massive help on all B2Pable tasks. Dagganoths were a treat, Bloodvelds, Dusties, etc. I also went down the chain in the Slayer tower while killing Abberent spectres to heal of Crawling Hand's bones. I did the same when I got Jellys with the bassilisks next door. Very efficient IMO. There is usually always another monster that drops normal bones around a not B2Pable monster. If you can improvise, you can use it in all situations. It's the poor mans Guthans. :) Quit RS to play real games. :P Bye TIF, miss you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un1kmage Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 i bury my bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Inc Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I'm gonna be using them both. :P I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193) Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)Boss Pets: Supreme - 848 KCIf you play Xbox One - Add me! GT: Urtehnoes - Currently on a Destiny binge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4tty Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 i have both, guthans is the ultimate slayer tool, and is AMAZING for dagganoth kings. i only use b2p on infernal mages, bloodvelds and dust devils and i take a full load of shark for them anyway which usually means i hardly need to use b2p. also going to nearby monsters for bones wastes time :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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